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Black Irish

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The real question is did you fry the chicken or is it from a restaurant?

Lagunitas Undercover Investigation Shut-down ale.

Also some Elijah Craig 12yo.

Bought the fried bird. My fryer is still sitting in a pile of boxes from the move.

Just filed my taxes today. I owe less than I thought. Whiskey time! (Well, it would have been whiskey time either regardless). The question is, Redbreast 12 or 15?
 

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What makes up the extra 7-9 points. What is lacking? How many beers out there that have a 93 rating?

The two main weak points of it in my opinion are that it isn't as thick as I would prefer (not that it is thin but I expected a barrel aged stout to be more viscous) and that I feel that the bourbon flavor wasn't as potent as I would prefer. I also felt that the flavors weren't well integrated. I view Goose Island's Bourbon County Stout as a better bourbon barrel aged stout as it was more viscous and had a stronger (though not overwhelming) bourbon barrel flavor and smell.

The positive is that all of those things might (and probably will) change with aging. The 93 is a rating as of now, now what it could be in a year or two.

In some ways it reminds me of Deschutes The Abyss (not in flavor though) in that I find The Abyss to be a great beer when it is first released but with a few years of aging it is an amazing beer and I hope that KBS follows that trajectory.

The honest truth is that I don't know exactly how many beers have scored a 93 or higher but off the top of my head I would say, Pliny The Elder, Stone Enjoy By, Most of Russian River's sours, Goose Island Bourbon County Stout, Rochefort 10, St. Bernardus Abt. 12, Lagunitas Sucks, Alpine's Pure Hoppiness, Exponential Hoppiness, Nelson (and probably Duet as well), Stone RuinTen, Lost Abbey Deliverance, Ballast Point Sculpin, Weihenstephaner Hefeweissbier, Societe the Pupil, Green Flash Palate Wrecker, Oskar Blues Ten Fidy.

Beers that I view as similar rating wise (not that the taste the same) would be things such as Ballast Point Victory at Sea, Deschutes The Abyss (right after release), Gulden Draak, Cuvée Van De Keizer Blue (right after release, this is an amazing beer after 2+ years of aging), Ayinger Celebrator, Russian River Blind Pig IPA, and Clown Shoes Extremely Angry Beast etc.

Two caveats, first comparing between styles is somewhat difficult and inexact, and secondly, I think that KBS might improve with age.
 

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Gluek's and Hauenstein---wow, haven't heard of those beers in a long time. I assume those breweries are now defunct.

Hamm's is alive and well, living the high life in my fridge. It's now brewed in an unnamed Milwaukee brewery.




Gluek's bit the dust in 2010, though the restaurant/bar is still kickin'. It's listed as the longest operating restaurant in Minneapolis. It opened at its current location in 1934.



Hauenstein seems to be alive but the label has passed hands a few times. I think it's currently brewed in MN, but I'm not sure where. I haven't seen it on the shelves in quite a while but I haven't been looking.



I have a sentimental attachment to Hamm's. The first I had was in late May 1975, on my first trip to The Land of Sky Blue Waters, sitting in the third baseline bleachers with an ND classmate. Warm and sunny with clear skies. It factored into my decision to accept a job relocation from Miami to Minneapolis four years later.

The fact that a 30 pack is $16 is meaningless ...
 

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Hamm's? Dshans, you drink like a frat boy. Albeit, with much better grammar.

Never been a frat boy. I went to ND. No Frats. Thank goodness.

Stroh's and a number of cheap beers out of Monroe, Wi served my broke-ass butt through four years of college.

I reserve my $$$s for wine and whiskey.
 

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When I visit my wife's grandparents in Wisconsin, all her grandpa drinks is Hamm's. So I have had my share of Hamm's. The best part is her uncle's think they drink upscale with their miller lite. Last time we visited I bought a few different six packs of New Glarus to get me through.
 

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Never been a frat boy. I went to ND. No Frats. Thank goodness.

Stroh's and a number of cheap beers out of Monroe, Wi served my broke-ass butt through four years of college.

I reserve my $$$s for wine and whiskey.
Oh I know. Hamm's is the preferred drink of the frat boys I know though. At least, back in the Midwest. I agree about saving money for wine and whiskey, though I am partial to a fine beer now and then.
 

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Hamm's is alive and well, living the high life in my fridge. It's now brewed in an unnamed Milwaukee brewery.




Gluek's bit the dust in 2010, though the restaurant/bar is still kickin'. It's listed as the longest operating restaurant in Minneapolis. It opened at its current location in 1934.



Hauenstein seems to be alive but the label has passed hands a few times. I think it's currently brewed in MN, but I'm not sure where. I haven't seen it on the shelves in quite a while but I haven't been looking.



I have a sentimental attachment to Hamm's. The first I had was in late May 1975, on my first trip to The Land of Sky Blue Waters, sitting in the third baseline bleachers with an ND classmate. Warm and sunny with clear skies. It factored into my decision to accept a job relocation from Miami to Minneapolis four years later.

The fact that a 30 pack is $16 is meaningless ...

When I was at ND, I recall drinking beers along the lines of Falstaff, Old Milwaukee, and Falls City. I don't mind Hamm's or any beers similar to it (e.g. Stroh's, PBR, Blatz, Schlitz, Old Style, etc...). Damn near perfect on a hot, humid summer day. I definitely do like good craft beer, but there are definitely times when I want something simple yet satisfying---like a Hamm's.

Hauenstein is still around? I'll have a talk with my local liquor store proprietor about possibly procuring some.
 

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What do you think of it?

I will be opening mine soon.

Quite interesting...never had or heard of a dark Saison before. Almost a hybrid of Saison and Belgian dark ale for me. Its good though, not great.
 

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When I visit my wife's grandparents in Wisconsin, all her grandpa drinks is Hamm's. So I have had my share of Hamm's. The best part is her uncle's think they drink upscale with their miller lite. Last time we visited I bought a few different six packs of New Glarus to get me through.

New Glarus nearly always disappoints me. Spotted cow, in particular, is wildly overrated.
 

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Quite interesting...never had or heard of a dark Saison before. Almost a hybrid of Saison and Belgian dark ale for me. Its good though, not great.

It was definitely drinkable but I will not be buying again.

Thinking of grabbing some mead for next week's episode. Anyone have any recommendations?
 

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Tonight with dinner (which is roasted pork loin in a marinara sauce over penne pasta with a loaf of country french bread from a local french bakery) a bottle of Columbia Crest H3 Les Chevaux 2012. A blend of 60% Syrah, 27% merlot and then a bunch of other grapes. Pretty good right after opening, blackberry, blueberry, plum and a little sour cherry with some chocolate on the finish. Not bad for under $9
 
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