[Vpoll] Marijuana, Weed, Pot

[Buster Bluth]

And pay financially and legally for any collateral damage they cause on the innocent from their use

That isn't the case at all times with everyone sober or not?

 

[Buster Bluth]

Exactly. And if they kill anyone while under the influence, it's Murder 1.

I'm not sure this would hold up in court unless they were driving.

 

[wizards8507]

That isn't the case at all times with everyone sober or not?

Not necessarily. For example, if you're poor and OD on something, I don't think Medicaid should pay for that hospital visit.

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[wizards8507]

I'm not sure this would hold up in court unless they were driving.

I'm not saying how it is, I'm suggesting how I think it SHOULD be if we were to legalize everything. I say let people do whatever they want. Don't ban things because a user MIGHT harm someone, but fully punish the user if he DOES harm someone.

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[Buster Bluth]

Not necessarily. For example, if you're poor and OD on something, I don't think Medicaid should pay for that hospital visit.

Yeah but the rest of us prefer to acknowledge that we live in a society...

The costs of paying for Medicaid increases due to drug use wouldn't even put a dent in the costs saved when stop locking them up in jail anyway.

 

[wizards8507]

Yeah but the rest of us prefer to acknowledge that we live in a society...

The costs of paying for Medicaid increases due to drug use wouldn't even put a dent in the costs saved by stopping locking them up in jail anyway.

We'd save even more if we didn't do either.

Edit: Regardless, I'm not so much concerned with the cost to the taxpayer. It's about the individual being responsible for his own actions.

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[Buster Bluth]

We'd save even more if we didn't do either.

The saving there would be letting people die...

Edit: Regardless, I'm not so much concerned with the cost to the taxpayer. It's about the individual being responsible for his own actions.

...that's fine in theory, but at a certain point it doesn't apply: emergency room.

 

[wizards8507]

The saving there would be letting people die...



...that's fine in theory, but at a certain point it doesn't apply: emergency room.

Yes, let certain people die, i.e. the ones who choose to kill themselves by consciously putting poison in their bodies.

Or, you could save them but they cover their own bill.

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[Jebediah Springfield]

I'm glad I'm smoking and not drinking tonight

 

[Buster Bluth]

I'm glad I'm smoking and not drinking tonight

yuuuup!

 

[TheItalian]

I am not a smoker, nor have I ever been. But I'm for legalizing it and taxing the crap out of it. IMO, alcohol has worse effects on the body and mind and why not create the extra revenue for our already crappy economy and jobs for places that would sell it?

To me, it just makes sense.

 

[woolybug25]

 

[GoIrish41]

classic

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

http://dmarkanderson.com/Medical_Marijuana_Accidents_and_Alcohol_10_16_12_v1.pdf

Medical Marijuana Laws, Traffic Fatalities, and Alcohol Consumption


** Haven't read it yet

 

[FearTheBeard]

Uruguay is legalizing Uruguay to legalize marijuana, Senate says - CNN.com

 

[ResLife Hero]

If Colorado and Washington see the type of tax revenues and cost savings they're envisioning without an increase in crime, I think the dominoes will start falling in our country as well. CO especially has a compelling model since the majority of the state's tax on it goes directly toward building schools and funding substance abuse programs. Hard to argue against funding those in favor of locking people up if you can't point to overwhelming benefits of the latter.

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

Patiently waiting for Colorado to turn into a hellhole now that the devil's lettuce is legal.

 

[woolybug25]

Did you guys see this?

Jon Singleton of Houston Astros discusses marijuana addiction - ESPN

You can't be addicted to pot. Singleton is just using this as an excuse for his poor performance.

There is a difference between a habit and an addiction. Bob Saget said it best…

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[Buster Bluth]

That's bananas.

 

[anarin]

Did you guys see this?

Jon Singleton of Houston Astros discusses marijuana addiction - ESPN

You can't be addicted to pot. Singleton is just using this as an excuse for his poor performance.

There is a difference between a habit and an addiction. Bob Saget said it best…

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/LEberTUvrsE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

You can be addicted to anything. I have friends that are wake and bakers, they have admitted that they would freak out if they didn't have it daily. Is it an addiction like nicotine? No, but if you do this everyday your body gets used to it enough that it becomes an addiction.

Does this guy do it enough to warrant saying he is addicted? Who knows?

 

[RyCo1983]

You can be addicted to anything. I have friends that are wake and bakers, they have admitted that they would freak out if they didn't have it daily. Is it an addiction like nicotine? No, but if you do this everyday your body gets used to it enough that it becomes an addiction.

Does this guy do it enough to warrant saying he is addicted? Who knows?

Psychological addiction sure. But not a physical one.

 

[GBdomer]

You can be addicted to anything. I have friends that are wake and bakers, they have admitted that they would freak out if they didn't have it daily. Is it an addiction like nicotine? No, but if you do this everyday your body gets used to it enough that it becomes an addiction.

Does this guy do it enough to warrant saying he is addicted? Who knows?

I get what you are saying but I really don't think its an addiction it sounds like a habit.It's all in your head

 

[woolybug25]

You can be addicted to anything. I have friends that are wake and bakers, they have admitted that they would freak out if they didn't have it daily. Is it an addiction like nicotine? No, but if you do this everyday your body gets used to it enough that it becomes an addiction.

Does this guy do it enough to warrant saying he is addicted? Who knows?

That is what we call a habit. There is a difference. Nobody is getting shakes and a fever when they quit weed.

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

I used to smoke marijuana

 

[GBdomer]

That is what we call a habit. There is a difference. Nobody is getting shakes and a fever when they quit weed.

I am on the same page you are.

 

[Rizzophil]

Did anyone else see the 60 minute piece on all of the problems Colorado is encountering after legalized pot?

 

[woolybug25]

Did anyone else see the 60 minute piece on all of the problems Colorado is encountering after legalized pot?

I did. It was a crock of shit. Loaded with false innuendoes and assumptions. An opinion piece at best.

I just got back from Colorado and you couldn't tell anything has even changed. They are also about to have millions in a tax windfall.

 

[anarin]

I get what you are saying but I really don't think its an addiction it sounds like a habit.It's all in your head

That is what we call a habit. There is a difference. Nobody is getting shakes and a fever when they quit weed.

In reading the article, he states, "They would turn off the lights at 11:30, and I would just sit there and stare at the ceiling because I couldn't go to sleep," he said. "My heart was beating too fast. I would get night sweats. It was bad. I legitimately went through withdrawal.".

That my friend is an addiction. The difference between habit and addiction is the ability to control your need.

I agree that weed isn't an addicting substance like other drugs. But I won't agree that you can't become addicted to it. If that makes sense.

 

[chicago51]

I did. It was a crock of shit. Loaded with false innuendoes and assumptions. An opinion piece at best.

I just got back from Colorado and you couldn't tell anything has even changed. They are also about to have millions in a tax windfall.

I heard it was a 100 million year they are getting out of it and they spending it on building new schools.

 

[woolybug25]

In reading the article, he states, "They would turn off the lights at 11:30, and I would just sit there and stare at the ceiling because I couldn't go to sleep," he said. "My heart was beating too fast. I would get night sweats. It was bad. I legitimately went through withdrawal.".

That my friend is an addiction. The difference between habit and addiction is the ability to control your need.

I agree that weed isn't an addicting substance like other drugs. But I won't agree that you can't become addicted to it. If that makes sense.

In your definition of "addiction", you can be addicted to chocolate, mountain dew and exercise. There is literally no chemical in marijuana that causes those symptoms. I would agree that "being able to control it" would be something that differentiates the two. Lets take two examples, a) weed and b) alcohol. A heavy marijuana user could stop tomorrow and just be bored. An alcoholic would actually have physical pain and/or illness.

I'm just saying that people use the word "addiction" incorrectly. Here are the definitions:

Addiction - the state of being enslaved to a habit or practice or to something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming, as narcotics, to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma.

Habit - an acquired behavior pattern regularly followed until it has become almost involuntary.

Which one does weed fall into?