Underclassmen Declaring for NFL or Returning for 2017

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JT Barrett returning to college was worthy of USA Today and New York Times coverage? Interesting. I would think him declaring would have been the bigger news. He is not NFL material IMO.

Probably not, but what does he gain returning to Columbus if he wants to play in the NFL?

It's one more year of wear and tear on the body. If he has Pro aspirations, he's not going to improve at QB enough to warrant a look there in another year under Meyer. He's an athletic guy that may catch on at another position, that won't change.

I'm actually surprised he's returning.
 

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Ohio State players still to decide:

Curtis Samuel, RB
Marshan Lattimore, CB
Marcus Baugh, TE

Staying:

QB J.T. Barrett;
DE Jalyn Holmes;
DE Sam Hubbard;
DE Tyquan Lewis;
OG Billy Price
 
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Ohio State players still to decide:

Curtis Samuel, RB
Marshan Lattimore, CB
Marcus Baugh, TE

Staying:

QB J.T. Barrett;
DE Jalyn Holmes;
DE Sam Hubbard;
DE Tyquan Lewis;
OG Billy Price

Good info, thanks. I updated the OP.
 

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JT Barrett returning to college was worthy of USA Today and New York Times coverage? Interesting. I would think him declaring would have been the bigger news. He is not NFL material IMO.

totally agree, Malik Zaire could have put up at least one score against Clemson. what about adoree jackson?
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">USC wide receiver JuJu Smith-Schuster declares for the NFL draft <a href="https://t.co/0TlQQEB5wo">https://t.co/0TlQQEB5wo</a></p>— Dr. Saturday (@YahooDrSaturday) <a href="https://twitter.com/YahooDrSaturday/status/817914819097530370">January 8, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">USC wide receiver JuJu Smith-Schuster declares for the NFL draft <a href="https://t.co/0TlQQEB5wo">https://t.co/0TlQQEB5wo</a></p>— Dr. Saturday (@YahooDrSaturday) <a href="https://twitter.com/YahooDrSaturday/status/817914819097530370">January 8, 2017</a></blockquote>
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What about Adoree?
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ohio State receiver Noah Brown will declare for NFL draft <a href="https://t.co/56uJkv1geu">https://t.co/56uJkv1geu</a></p>— AP Top 25 (@AP_Top25) <a href="https://twitter.com/AP_Top25/status/818293234027954176">January 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Ohio State wide receiver Noah Brown says he will skip his final two years of eligibility to enter the NFL draft.

A starter last season for the first time, Brown was second on the team to Curtis Samuel in receiving, catching 30 passes for 385 yards. He tied for the team lead with seven touchdown catches, including tying a school record with four TDs against Oklahoma.

Brown announced his decision via Twitter on Saturday, saying "I have decided it is time for me to move on to the next level and chase my dreams."

He missed the entire 2015 season after suffering a leg injury in training camp.

Brown joins Buckeyes teammates linebacker Raekwon McMillan, cornerback Gareon Conley and safety Malik Hooker in departing early for the NFL.
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2017 NFL Draft Underclassmen (Walter Football)


A list of officially declared underclassmen for the 2017 NFL Draft. I also offer my opinion on whether or not each prospect made a wise move by leaving school early. I will not factor financial considerations in my analysis because most players need the money.

Arranged by date of declaration. An example:

Underclassmen Declaring for the 2017 NFL Draft - Jan. 7:
Noah Brown, WR, Ohio State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 218.
Projected 40 Time: 4.49.
Projected Round (2017): 2-3.


Noah Brown should part ways with whomever is advising him. Declaring for the 2017 NFL Draft is incredibly shortsighted on his part. Brown had a chance to be a first-round pick in the 2018 NFL Draft, but as a redshirt sophomore, he's considered a Round 2-3 prospect because he's not ready to contribute right away. Brown has tons of upside, but caught only 32 passes in 2016. He would've gained a lot by returning to Ohio State. Instead, he's in danger of falling into the third round this April.

The Verdict:
Bad move
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">North Carolina quarterback Mitch Trubisky declares for the NFL Draft. That’s another top prospect off next year’s schedule.</p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/818462334398119937">January 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Curtis Samuel is turning pro. Will post story soon.</p>— Dave Biddle (@davebiddle) <a href="https://twitter.com/davebiddle/status/818480754174869504">January 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Florida State WR Travis Rudolph declares for NFL Draft</p>— Brett McMurphy (@McMurphyESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/819931439533846528">January 13, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Quenton Nelson announces that he will return for his senior season.</p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/820697424364761093">January 15, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KR-CB-WR Adoree' Jackson announces he's bypassing his senior season at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/USC?src=hash">#USC</a> & entering the NFL draft.</p>— Bruce Feldman (@BruceFeldmanCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/821082810538594304">January 16, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Updated the OP.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KR-CB-WR Adoree' Jackson announces he's bypassing his senior season at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/USC?src=hash">#USC</a> & entering the NFL draft.</p>— Bruce Feldman (@BruceFeldmanCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/821082810538594304">January 16, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Updated the OP.

Had to wait to the last minute to get his own attention. Bitch move imo. Over rate cover but not as a KR. Will be glad to see him go.
 

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Here is how E$PN has the top 50 2016 football players ranked. I know NFL teams will draft by position need but, where does this put Kizer and Folsten? Should they have stayed?

#CFBrank 2016 Clemson QB Deshaun Watson ends season as college football's No. 1 player

That's a ranking of who were the best players in college last year. They have little correlation with who will make great pros. I put little value in that list as a comparison to whether any prospect should or should not have declared.
 

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That's a ranking of who were the best players in college last year. They have little correlation with who will make great pros. I put little value in that list as a comparison to whether any prospect should or should not have declared.

10 or so are underclassmen too. So as to say as your statement that I have in bold, the question still stands, how good is Kizer to be in the pros when rated one of the top 3ish QBs to go in the first round but cannot beat out an underclassmen that is listed in the top 50.

Don't get me wrong, I see your point. But where does College talent coincide with PRO talent and how it is coached to that level. i.e., Brady taken in the 6th round..... 199th pick.
 

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10 or so are underclassmen too. So as to say as your statement that I have in bold, the question still stands, how good is Kizer to be in the pros when rated one of the top 3ish QBs to go in the first round but cannot beat out an underclassmen that is listed in the top 50.

Don't get me wrong, I see your point. But where does College talent coincide with PRO talent and how it is coached to that level. i.e., Brady taken in the 6th round..... 199th pick.

That wasn't your question. Your question was whether it was a mistake for him to declare.
 

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That wasn't your question. Your question was whether it was a mistake for him to declare.

Question wasn't is it a mistake for him to go pro.... question is who is telling him he's good enough to go pro.
 

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Question wasn't is it a mistake for him to go pro.... question is who is telling him he's good enough to go pro.

Well.. Kizer has a first round grade. So you tell me. Sounds like the NFL is telling him.

I really don't get what point you're trying to make. Who cares about ESPN's list of the best college players?
 

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Well.. Kizer has a first round grade. So you tell me. Sounds like the NFL is telling him.

I really don't get what point you're trying to make. Who cares about ESPN's list of the best college players?

I don't guess anybody cares. I thought it was a pretty cool article and why the speculation that Kizer would be one of the first three draft picks but is not in the top 50 best players in the NCAA - it was just a discussion and link I posted. Guess I expect too much from some on this forum that just can't have a normal conversation. If you didn't know what point I was trying to make and instead of asking and coming to your own conclusion... just don't reply to it....
 

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I don't guess anybody cares. I thought it was a pretty cool article and why the speculation that Kizer would be one of the first three draft picks but is not in the top 50 best players in the NCAA - it was just a discussion and link I posted. Guess I expect too much from some on this forum that just can't have a normal conversation. If you didn't know what point I was trying to make and instead of asking and coming to your own conclusion... just don't reply to it....

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