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A lot of people in the middle who probably wouldn't have voted for Trump are now going to. They see this as an abuse of power and weaponizing the legal system to attempt to hamstring a political opponent, especially given how much they lied in the last election about Hunter's laptop and the selling of access & influence.

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I would tend to agree with this. I hate Trump. But in a brief moment of weakness in the days after the trial, I almost convinced myself I would vote for him. This coming from a guy who has not voted for Trump in either of the two previous elections. I'm certain that this event will bring more people back into the fold and will certainly energize the Trump voters.

I have no handle on what true independents will do with this.
 

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I would tend to agree with this. I hate Trump. But in a brief moment of weakness in the days after the trial, I almost convinced myself I would vote for him. This coming from a guy who has not voted for Trump in either of the two previous elections. I'm certain that this event will bring more people back into the fold and will certainly energize the Trump voters.

I have no handle on what true independents will do with this.

In the weeks leading up to the verdict the Emerson College poll had Trump at 3-4 points ahead of Biden. This week he's sitting at +6, so it seems like the trial could have backfired although there could be other factors at play.
 

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In the weeks leading up to the verdict the Emerson College poll had Trump at 3-4 points ahead of Biden. This week he's sitting at +6, so it seems like the trial could have backfired although there could be other factors at play.
If people are using him being held accountable as a justification for voting for him they would have made any excuse necessary to do what they wanted to do anyways. The idea that he’s the victim of some political hit job is laughable. Law and order my ass.
 

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If people are using him being held accountable as a justification for voting for him they would have made any excuse necessary to do what they wanted to do anyways. The idea that he’s the victim of some political hit job is laughable. Law and order my ass.
Don’t worry I’m sure they’d all become Biden supporters if Hunter gets convicted because that’s how this works, right?
 

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If people are using him being held accountable as a justification for voting for him they would have made any excuse necessary to do what they wanted to do anyways. The idea that he’s the victim of some political hit job is laughable. Law and order my ass.
This post is so out of touch with reality. I think the majority of people with a brain see the political elites and just elite elite as inherently criminal on both sides that are never held to account. The left thought getting a court to put a stamp on any criminality would change people’s minds but it just shows how petty and corrupt they are.

Trump is sort of like one of those cartoon monsters that feed on and gets stronger with how much shit you throw in his way. If the left would just let Trump yell at the wall and argue with himself Trump would essentially be powerless, ineffective and essentially useless.

Don’t worry I’m sure they’d all become Biden supporters if Hunter gets convicted because that’s how this works, right?
If Joe Biden ever got convicted of anything I’m sure you would still be casting your vote for Joe Biden just like the rest of the hypocrites on this board.
 

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This post is so out of touch with reality. I think the majority of people with a brain see the political elites and just elite elite as inherently criminal on both sides that are never held to account. The left thought getting a court to put a stamp on any criminality would change people’s minds but it just shows how petty and corrupt they are.

Trump is sort of like one of those cartoon monsters that feed on and gets stronger with how much shit you throw in his way. If the left would just let Trump yell at the wall and argue with himself Trump would essentially be powerless, ineffective and essentially useless.


If Joe Biden ever got convicted of anything I’m sure you would still be casting your vote for Joe Biden just like the rest of the hypocrites on this board.
If you don't think Republicans would take any whiff of something that would stick as an opportunity to go after Biden I've got a bridge to sell you. They're so desperate they're trying to take down his junkie POS son to sink him as collateral.

If Joe Biden got convicted of 34 felonies I absolutely would not be voting for him. The only reason I'm voting for him at all is because his opponent is so embarrassingly bad it's cartoonish.

Toronto doesn't get a vote, he's a filthy Canadian.
 

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If you don't think Republicans would take any whiff of something that would stick as an opportunity to go after Biden I've got a bridge to sell you. They're so desperate they're trying to take down his junkie POS son to sink him as collateral.

If Joe Biden got convicted of 34 felonies I absolutely would not be voting for him. The only reason I'm voting for him at all is because his opponent is so embarrassingly bad it's cartoonish.

Toronto doesn't get a vote, he's a filthy Canadian.

You are assuming I think only one side is corrupt. Keep your bridge.

You are lying to yourself and the rest of us if you think the republicans are the only desperate party. They would both do anything to stay/get in power.

Do you think Joe Biden has ever committed 34 that he has not been caught for? You’d be foolish to say no. I’d summise most politicians have, especially any career politician like Pope Joe.
 
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If Joe Biden ever got convicted of anything I’m sure you would still be casting your vote for Joe Biden just like the rest of the hypocrites on this board.

I wouldn't vote for Biden even if he got convicted. When faced with pressure he adopts right wing positions, as a progressive I'm not voting for someone who wants to move towards the right. I wish more serious people tried to primary him.
 

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I wouldn't vote for Biden even if he got convicted. When faced with pressure he adopts right wing positions, as a progressive I'm not voting for someone who wants to move towards the right. I wish more serious people tried to primary him.
So you’re saying a politician plays politics? No way. You can maybe even make the argument that when pressured he adopts left wing positions.

Big money gives us our choices no matter how serious someone is. The most deserving or best candidate usually loses to be better funded. Example being Bernie Sanders.
 
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So you’re saying a politician plays politics? No way. You can maybe even make the argument that when pressured he adopts left wing positions.

Big money gives us our choices no matter how serious someone is. The most deserving or best candidate usually loses to be better funded. Example being Bernie Sanders.
Just because politicians play politics doesn't mean I can't vote how I want. Similarly, I didn't vote Liberal up here because of Trudeau wearing blackface. You should know I'm a stubborn bastard.

He should adopt left wing positions, he's the fucking leader of the "Left" party. Except most of his entire political history has been as a conservative Dem who has pushed a lot of dumb right wing shit forward.

At the end of the day, as a wealthy white guy I get all the benefits no matter who is elected. That's why rhetoric is important because it's the only thing that impacts my family and friends down there. I don't think it matters who's elected; they'll still be buying stuff to protect the kids from shooters. With the way Biden is moving, how much worse could it get under Trump? "Republican - but we don't hate gays" - Joe Biden 2024
 

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If you don't think Republicans would take any whiff of something that would stick as an opportunity to go after Biden I've got a bridge to sell you. They're so desperate they're trying to take down his junkie POS son to sink him as collateral.

If Joe Biden got convicted of 34 felonies I absolutely would not be voting for him. The only reason I'm voting for him at all is because his opponent is so embarrassingly bad it's cartoonish.

Toronto doesn't get a vote, he's a filthy Canadian.
So who would you vote for if both candidates had felony convictions? Because that’s a possibility (far fetched as it seems admittedly) now that weaponizing the courts has been successful.
 

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Just because politicians play politics doesn't mean I can't vote how I want. Similarly, I didn't vote Liberal up here because of Trudeau wearing blackface. You should know I'm a stubborn bastard.

He should adopt left wing positions, he's the fucking leader of the "Left" party. Except most of his entire political history has been as a conservative Dem who has pushed a lot of dumb right wing shit forward.

At the end of the day, as a wealthy white guy I get all the benefits no matter who is elected. That's why rhetoric is important because it's the only thing that impacts my family and friends down there. I don't think it matters who's elected; they'll still be buying stuff to protect the kids from shooters. With the way Biden is moving, how much worse could it get under Trump? "Republican - but we don't hate gays" - Joe Biden 2024
I wasn’t saying you can’t or shouldn’t vote for who you want, just stating that you are playing MR Obvious or even Mr Oblivious that any politician will pander to get votes.

The leader of the left party? I thought he was President of the US. I don’t know why it’s shocking for me to see someone admit they have zero desire to have a partisan White House. Sort of proves the theory that we aren’t on this forum to change anyone’s mind but to just yell at each other and post of few links we found on a journal archive.

Republicans hate gays
Democrats hate America

Republican hate minorities
Democrats hate white people

Republicans don’t care about kids being shot at school once every 3-5 years.
Democrats don’t care about minorities killing each other everyday.

Republicans believe in hard work and earning a living
Democrats believe in hard workers earning a living for someone else

Republican want to move the country forward
Democrats want to move everyone back so it appears we are moving forward

As long as we all agree on that we really have nothing to argue about. Lol
 

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I wasn’t saying you can’t or shouldn’t vote for who you want, just stating that you are playing MR Obvious or even Mr Oblivious that any politician will pander to get votes.

The leader of the left party? I thought he was President of the US. I don’t know why it’s shocking for me to see someone admit they have zero desire to have a partisan White House. Sort of proves the theory that we aren’t on this forum to change anyone’s mind but to just yell at each other and post of few links we found on a journal archive.

Republicans hate gays
Democrats hate America

Republican hate minorities
Democrats hate white people

Republicans don’t care about kids being shot at school once every 3-5 years.
Democrats don’t care about minorities killing each other everyday.

Republicans believe in hard work and earning a living
Democrats believe in hard workers earning a living for someone else

Republican want to move the country forward
Democrats want to move everyone back so it appears we are moving forward

As long as we all agree on that we really have nothing to argue about. Lol
How am even remotely oblivious? I am stating that I don't like the positions that Biden is taking and therefore wouldn't vote for him. You'd rather I just drink the Kool-aid and say it doesn't matter. I'm the oblivious one though lol.

Biden is the Dem nominee for president, no? Therefore, as the nominee of the party who is supposed to represent the "Left" I would hope he takes positions that are from a Left position. I believe in advocating for progressive policies which is what I argue for on here.

I agree on point #3 for the Dems but don't agree on literally any other point, and think they're pretty laughable but I don't think we want to argue the merits of those points.
 

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How am even remotely oblivious? I am stating that I don't like the positions that Biden is taking and therefore wouldn't vote for him. You'd rather I just drink the Kool-aid and say it doesn't matter. I'm the oblivious one though lol.

Biden is the Dem nominee for president, no? Therefore, as the nominee of the party who is supposed to represent the "Left" I would hope he takes positions that are from a Left position. I believe in advocating for progressive policies which is what I argue for on here.

I agree on point #3 for the Dems but don't agree on literally any other point, and think they're pretty laughable but I don't think we want to argue the merits of those points.
You don’t like Biden trying to win an election by changing positions? You new to politics? Hence oblivious. We are all drinking the kool aid or at least something spiked, especially if you think you are voting for a guy and what they are running on.

Biden is President of the US, not the left. For the people, by the people… not for the people left, by the left.

They are meant to be laughable… hence oblivious.
 

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You don’t like Biden trying to win an election by changing positions? You new to politics? Hence oblivious. We are all drinking the kool aid or at least something spiked, especially if you think you are voting for a guy and what they are running on.

Biden is President of the US, not the left. For the people, by the people… not for the people left, by the left.

They are meant to be laughable… hence oblivious.
Yeah? I understand what he's doing, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

Thank you for rambling that off! Felt almost like a website chatbot. If AOC was the Republican nominee you would be pissed, no? AOC iS tHe PrEsIdEnt! fOr THe PeOPle!!
 

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Yeah? I understand what he's doing, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

Thank you for rambling that off! Felt almost like a website chatbot. If AOC was the Republican nominee you would be pissed, no? AOC iS tHe PrEsIdEnt! fOr THe PeOPle!!
I’d move to Canada and bitch about it.
 

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I’d move to Canada and bitch about it.
Then you’d get some peace of mind knowing that your friends back to school shopping includes what to do in case of an active shooter for their six year old. Peace of mind because your concern for friends and family can only be contained to the country you live in - or so I’ve been told.
 

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Then you’d get some peace of mind knowing that your friends back to school shopping includes what to do in case of an active shooter for their six year old. Peace of mind because your concern for friends and family can only be contained to the country you live in - or so I’ve been told.
You probably have been told, your circle of people seem to be the people still wearing masks in their hybrid electric vehicles making up pronouns.
 

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You probably have been told, your circle of people seem to be the people still wearing masks in their hybrid electric vehicles making up pronouns.
If you lived in a desirable place, maybe you’d have the privilege of throwing a chain on their bike.
 

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Then you’d get some peace of mind knowing that your friends back to school shopping includes what to do in case of an active shooter for their six year old. Peace of mind because your concern for friends and family can only be contained to the country you live in - or so I’ve been told.

I'm sorry I told you that, Toronto. Sometimes I post when I shouldn't.

I know you care about us and we care about you.
 

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This election is like being asked ... would you rather die by lethal injection or by firing squad.
 
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