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I meant everyone to know I’m completely unbiased here when I say support your president. Make sure you send him your money so he can fight against the devil democrats and the Soros backed animal Bragg!
 

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I'm in this corner...I think it’s business records falsification. I think it’s tax evasion, and I think it’s conspiracy. And I think it’s a scheme to defraud. The successful jury trial is a blueprint—so the same charges we saw that were successfully brought against Trump Organization, this is going to look a lot like that.

He's definitely facing at least 1 felony

There's documents, tape recordings, Cohen, Pecker, Stormy and Weisselberg.
 
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I'm in this corner...I think it’s business records falsification. I think it’s tax evasion, and I think it’s conspiracy. And I think it’s a scheme to defraud. The successful jury trial is a blueprint—so the same charges we saw that were successfully brought against Trump Organization, this is going to look a lot like that.

He's definitely facing at least 1 felony

There's documents, Cohen, Pecker, Stormy and Weisselberg.
Right. It’s not the payment. It’s much more
 

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Nobody, and I mean nobody, does indictments like me. They're the most tremendous indictments you've ever seen. People come up to me all the time and say, 'Mr. Trump, your indictments are unbelievable.' And let me tell you, they're right. My indictments are top-notch, the best in the business. They're so good, people can't even believe it. And when they see them, they just love them. Trust me, nobody does indictments like I do.
 

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Cohen took out a HELOC to make this payment. Then trump org repaid him $420k in installments with a bonus and files these installment payments as legal fees for tax purposes. This is a felony.
 

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Cohen took out a HELOC to make this payment. Then trump org repaid him $420k in installments with a bonus and files these installment payments as legal fees for tax purposes. This is a felony.

Why do you say they are a felony? I do not know the law, but I read an article on CNN (the Trump haters they are) even said these bookkeeping errors are charged as misdemeanors. Then went on to say that they may rise to the level of felony if they were done to cover up another crime which they also say a NDA is not. Also mentioned that Cohen is a convicted felon and would be a horrible witness whose own lawyer is on the record stating he has lied to him multiple times. The article also said normally too when people are charged with multiple counts, they will reduce the number way down. Funny Bragg who has reduced 1/2-2/3 felony charges to misdemeanors sounds like he is doing the opposite on Trump.

My thinking is Bragg doesn't care about any of this. He was given orders. Also, Bragg feels there is a good chance a jury of his peers (LOL!!!) full of Trump haters will convict regardless of facts or evidence. The OJ jury!!!!!
 
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Why do you say they are a felony? I do not know the law, but I read an article on CNN (the Trump haters they are) even said these bookkeeping errors are charged as misdemeanors. Then went on to say that they may rise to the level of felony if they were done to cover up another crime which they also say a NDA is not. Also mentioned that Cohen is a convicted felon and would be a horrible witness whose own lawyer is on the record stating he has lied to him multiple times. The article also said normally too when people are charged with multiple counts, they will reduce the number way down. Funny Bragg who has reduced 1/2-2/3 felony charges to misdemeanors sounds like he is doing the opposite on Trump.

My thinking is Bragg doesn't care about any of this. He was given orders. Also, Bragg feels there is a good chance a jury of his peers (LOL!!!) full of Trump haters will convict regardless of facts or evidence. The OJ jury!!!!!
I think there is some legal theory that is tying it to a felony. Its my understanding its an untested practice. But yes, Bragg doing mental gymnastics to make this a felony is quite amusing considering his practice is to downgrade felonies as often as possible.

As for the venue of trial, I would think DJT would have a pretty good argument for moving the trial upstate or to Staten Island.

We had a young man get (allegedly) murdered for being gung-ho Republican last fall. They moved the trial. They happened to move it to a much less Republican county. Although they may have just moved it because it would be hard for the guy to get a fair shake in a rural county where everyone knows the victim and the defendant.
 

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Why do you say they are a felony? I do not know the law, but I read an article on CNN (the Trump haters they are) even said these bookkeeping errors are charged as misdemeanors. Then went on to say that they may rise to the level of felony if they were done to cover up another crime which they also say a NDA is not. Also mentioned that Cohen is a convicted felon and would be a horrible witness whose own lawyer is on the record stating he has lied to him multiple times. The article also said normally too when people are charged with multiple counts, they will reduce the number way down. Funny Bragg who has reduced 1/2-2/3 felony charges to misdemeanors sounds like he is doing the opposite on Trump.

My thinking is Bragg doesn't care about any of this. He was given orders. Also, Bragg feels there is a good chance a jury of his peers (LOL!!!) full of Trump haters will convict regardless of facts or evidence. The OJ jury!!!!!
There is no indication that these are bookkeeping errors. They were intentional and done to hide the source of the money and defraud the government of taxes. Felonies. Michael Cohen and Weiselbwrg went to jail for these reasons. We will all have to wait to see when the charges are issued publically but all the reporting indicates 30+ charges that some will be felonies.
 

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Lol the actual payment Isn’t the issue lmao. Of course you can make a payment. Michael Cohen and a Weiselbwrg have already gone to jail for the methods employees to deliver and enforce the payment. They did these things directed by Trump. Now Trump is being charged with the crimes of directing their crimes. Hahahah. We will see on Tuesday what the charges are.

I’m going to wait to see what the actual charges are on Tuesday but all the people defending this man claiming political interference and bias before seeing the actual charges is hilarious.
 

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Lol the actual payment Isn’t the issue lmao. Of course you can make a payment. Michael Cohen and a Weiselbwrg have already gone to jail for the methods employees to deliver and enforce the payment. They did these things directed by Trump. Now Trump is being charged with the crimes of directing their crimes. Hahahah. We will see on Tuesday what the charges are.

I’m going to wait to see what the actual charges are on Tuesday but all the people defending this man claiming political interference and bias before seeing the actual charges is hilarious.
Cack trying to convince everyone that he is the sane one. LOL. The TDS is strong with this one.
 

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Cack trying to convince everyone that he is the sane one. LOL. The TDS is strong with this one.
I don’t give a shit what y’all think about me. It’s hilarious to me that people are defending a guy when they don’t even know what the charges are. I don’t know what they are. I don’t know if they can prove it. We will see. That means I have TDS? Ok 👍
 

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I wouldn't mind if he did. But man you've lost all perspective.
Thoughts on those rushing to the defense, ham sandwich defense, comparisons to Clinton, claims that Biden is a pedophile? How about their perspective? Interesting Cack has lost all perspective yet Bobby has made some all timer statements and we've seen the ham sandwich defense go unchallenged.
 

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Thoughts on those rushing to the defense, ham sandwich defense, comparisons to Clinton, claims that Biden is a pedophile? How about their perspective? Interesting Cack has lost all perspective yet Bobby has made some all timer statements and we've seen the ham sandwich defense go unchallenged.
That's your job. I find it more fun to call out Cack on his shit.
 

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When is Toronto ever going to call out Cack or GoIrish41? Shockingly, that never happens.
 

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Tell me Toronto .... does Trump need to prove his innocence? Please tell me that you agree with Cack. Maybe I can add another bookmark soon.
 

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Tell me Toronto .... does Trump need to prove his innocence? Please tell me that you agree with Cack. Maybe I can add another bookmark soon.
Maybe you can ask bishop to display some of his dizzyingly vast facts and intelligence on the matter. Amazing that the guy saying he’s waiting for the actual charges to be made public before claiming injustice is the guy who has lost all perspective. What the fuck ever lol. Everyone needs a villain or a whipping boy. Take a number.
 

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Maybe you can ask bishop to display some of his dizzyingly vast facts and intelligence on the matter. Amazing that the guy saying he’s waiting for the actual charges to be made public before claiming injustice is the guy who has lost all perspective. What the fuck ever lol. Everyone needs a villain.
You want me to take seriously your opinions on legal matters when you still stand by the fact that Trump needs to prove his innocence. Yeah ok. You are a moron.

Google is your friend. Spend 5 minutes researching if a defendant has to prove his innocence. You will soon have your answer. LOL

This is middle school stuff.
 

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Tell me Toronto .... does Trump need to prove his innocence? Please tell me that you agree with Cack. Maybe I can add another bookmark soon.
Gtfoh you know exactly what was meant by that. A defense has as much work to do to fight and show charges are invalid as the prosecution does in charging them in the first place.

If the prosecution presents a voice recording of Trump ordering Cohen to make the payments and they will repay him in ways that defraud the government then the defense has to prove that evidence isn’t valid or take the risk in the jury just siding with the defense for no other reason.
 

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Gtfoh you know exactly what was meant by that. A defense has as much work to do to fight and show charges are invalid as the prosecution does in charging them in the first place.
Defense doesn't have to prove shit. They have to just raise reasonable doubt. A defense lawyer can get a not guilty decision by not calling a single witness, even the defendant, but simply poke holes at the prosecutions case. They aren't proving squat. Please use Google. I'm begging you.
 

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You want me to take seriously your opinions on legal matters when you still stand by the fact that Trump needs to prove his innocence. Yeah ok. You are a moron.

Google is your friend. Spend 5 minutes researching if a defendant has to prove his innocence. You will soon have your answer. LOL

This is middle school stuff.
2 seconds returns multiple law offices with specific sites addressing the actual reality of proving innocence. And again I don’t give two shits what you do or don’t believe. I’m not here to convince you of anything
 

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2 seconds returns multiple law offices with specific sites addressing proving innocence. And again I don’t give two shits what you do or don’t believe.
Please post them pointing out the areas where a defendant must prove themselves innocent in order to get a not guilty verdict.

Nobody.... .and I mean nobody ..... is agreeing with your insanely stupid take on this.
 
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