Trump Presidency Round 2

Blazers46

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Before I call you an antisemite, I want to be sure you're not just trolling.

Answer this - if someone disagrees with a countries administration or leadership, and that country is a theocracy or has a religion that is founded within it's borders, does that make the person islamophobic/antisemitic/antichristian?

The fact that I just called you out for being indifferent about Hamas attacking Israel but have zero problem calling BJ and his supporting cast terrorists and your response is just to argue about what your disagreement with Israel’s leadership/administration means invalidates whatever moronic point you are even trying to make…

Permission to call me a Nazi now, it’s inevitable.
 

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Sounds like a legit person is in charge of secret service now. No more set ups to kill people
 
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for those that don’t know… Terrorism is the use of violence against non combatants to achieve political or ideological goals…
So will you finally admit that the people participating violently in January 6th are terrorists and that trump just pardoned a bunch of terrorists?
 

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So will you finally admit that the people participating violently in January 6th are terrorists and that trump just pardoned a bunch of terrorists?
Lol. Use common sense. I showed u video of police ushering them past barricades and u still didn’t care
 

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The fact that I just called you out for being indifferent about Hamas attacking Israel but have zero problem calling BJ and his supporting cast terrorists and your response is just to argue about what your disagreement with Israel’s leadership/administration means invalidates whatever moronic point you are even trying to make…

Permission to call me a Nazi now, it’s inevitable.
Called me out? lol I have always maintained that Hamas are animals.

Why can't you answer why question?
 
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ColoradoIrish

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That’s a worthless reply.
No reply is worthwhile to you because you won't acknowledge reality. There's countless videos of police officers being attacked and injured that day but you still live in an alternative reality
 

Blazers46

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Called me out? lol I have always maintained that Hamas are animals.

Why can't you answer why question?
We can save a lot of time if you just make a point.

Your energy on the topic has always swung Israel bad.

Hamas (terror group) attacks Israel, your response is Israel needs to treat Palestinians better and bitching about how the board wants to nuke Brown people. Israel retaliates and they are terrorists and all you want to discuss is Israel’s leadership.

You asked me why I think you hate Jews, I answered. Now more questions. Fucks sake.
 

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So will you finally admit that the people participating violently in January 6th are terrorists and that trump just pardoned a bunch of terrorists?
If you can apply the same logic or even the law of precedent to BLM and other groups burning down cities all of 2020. If precedent says I can overrun government buildings and call it a protest why can’t a bunch of rednecks?
 
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If you can apply the same logic or even the law of precedent to BLM and other groups burning down cities all of 2020. If precedent says I can overrun government buildings and call it a protest why can’t a bunch of rednecks?
Anyone that escalated past peacefully protesting and caused damaged to property and government buildings should be held responsible. I've stated that in the past consistently. Since January 6th, was against non combatants with a political goal of stopping the certification of the election will you unequivocally state those who participated violently are terrorists?
 

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We can save a lot of time if you just make a point.

Your energy on the topic has always swung Israel bad.

Hamas (terror group) attacks Israel, your response is Israel needs to treat Palestinians better and bitching about how the board wants to nuke Brown people. Israel retaliates and they are terrorists and all you want to discuss is Israel’s leadership.

You asked me why I think you hate Jews, I answered. Now more questions. Fucks sake.

lmao because I wanted to give you a chance to post something where I said something that was proof I "hate jews" you can't find it.

My criticism of Bibi's government and how it makes Israeli's less safe is somehow me hating jews? You really are a dumb fucking idiot lol.

Your marble sized brain doesn't realize this, but by equating Israel's government to being representative of all jewish people is antisemtic as fuck. You think that jewish people are a monolith and should be seen as supporting Bibi. My friends who are actually Israeli are the ones who have given me the background in my opinions, should I tell them some backwater guy in the midwest think they're jew haters?

Let me give you a bit of background, since apparently it is the strongest form of evidence on this website, I've dated more jewish women than the number of X's on your shirt size I have been to numerous seders and celebrated the high holiday's with all types of jewish people. So to have to some ignorant person call me a "jew hater" is a perfect encapsulation of the anti-intellectual movement from TPUSA types who have absolutely no understanding of judaism.
 

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lmao because I wanted to give you a chance to post something where I said something that was proof I "hate jews" you can't find it.

My criticism of Bibi's government and how it makes Israeli's less safe is somehow me hating jews? You really are a dumb fucking idiot lol.

Your marble sized brain doesn't realize this, but by equating Israel's government to being representative of all jewish people is antisemtic as fuck. You think that jewish people are a monolith and should be seen as supporting Bibi. My friends who are actually Israeli are the ones who have given me the background in my opinions, should I tell them some backwater guy in the midwest think they're jew haters?

Let me give you a bit of background, since apparently it is the strongest form of evidence on this website, I've dated more jewish women than the number of X's on your shirt size I have been to numerous seders and celebrated the high holiday's with all types of jewish people. So to have to some ignorant person call me a "jew hater" is a perfect encapsulation of the anti-intellectual movement from TPUSA types who have absolutely no understanding of judaism.

Hamas kills Jews, your response is it’s Israel’s fault. Israel responds. They are terrorists. That’s really all me and my dumb fucking idiot pebble brain needs to say.

Criticize who you want. Israelis and Jews around the world have legit beefs and criticisms with the leadership in Israel. But they all have a bigger beef with being raped and murdered. 40% of actual Israelis say Israel’s response has been fine but another 35% say they haven’t done enough. If we are just talking Jews the vast majority support Israel’s military actions.

I will admit your faux flex about all your Jewish women and Jewish friends was hilariously sad… but if you believe BJ is a terrorists because of them they would be in the vast vast minority in their feelings. The local gripe with BJ has nothing to do with the war and everything to do with power and corruption not relative to the war.
 
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Three days in and the meltdown is in full swing.
They're already screaming about Nazi salutes and Jews and such. It's already fun to watch the melting and anger, but they haven't hit mid-season form yet. I'd give 'em a 7.2 so far.
 

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Anyone that escalated past peacefully protesting and caused damaged to property and government buildings should be held responsible. I've stated that in the past consistently. Since January 6th, was against non combatants with a political goal of stopping the certification of the election will you unequivocally state those who participated violently are terrorists?
Ehh... civil unrest and peaceful protest. This isn’t my definition it’s the lefts definition. There was a precedent set in 2020 that led to Jan 6.
 
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Ehh... civil unrest and peaceful protest. This isn’t my definition it’s the lefts definition. There was a precedent set in 2020 that led to Jan 6.
Ahh yes, January 6th 2021, a day of only peaceful protests and full of love. No violence occurred, no cops were hurt, gallows weren't built at the Capitol and people weren't calling for the hanging of our vice president. I totally forgot it was a day of love and peace. I'd love to be able to go through life being delusional the way you are
 

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Ahh yes, January 6th 2021, a day of only peaceful protests and full of love. No violence occurred, no cops were hurt, gallows weren't built at the Capitol and people weren't calling for the hanging of our vice president. I totally forgot it was a day of love and peace. I'd love to be able to go through life being delusional the way you are
Sounds like a normal day in Minneapolis or Seattle. Now can we start talking about Russia now?
 

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I think this take by The Free Press is the one I agree with the most about J6

Absolutely, it is gross that those who violently assaulted police officers and destroyed property were granted pardons. I would have entertained commutations of sentences on a case by case basis, but they were certainly guilty and should be held accountable.

But when you look deeper at some of these prosecutions, there was cruel and unusual punishment certainly given to people who did nothing but walk around the building. Not saying that they should not have been given some punishment, but 2+ years jail time is not fair, and in many cases the evidentiary standard for what was allowed by the prosecution was absurd.
 
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I think this take by The Free Press is the one I agree with the most about J6

Absolutely, it is gross that those who violently assaulted police officers and destroyed property were granted pardons. I would have entertained commutations of sentences on a case by case basis, but they were certainly guilty and should be held accountable.

But when you look deeper at some of these prosecutions, there was cruel and unusual punishment certainly given to people who did nothing but walk around the building. Not saying that they should not have been given some punishment, but 2+ years jail time is not fair, and in many cases the evidentiary standard for what was allowed by the prosecution was absurd.
Someone on the right being willing to have an honest conversation about it, it's honestly refreshing.

Some people were definitely used to set examples, and I understand why people are pissed about that. But I don't really care. They were used to set an example because they committed those actions because they wanted to "stop the steal". The goal by entering the Capitol was to stop the certification of the election. That matters and people on the right continue to downplay that aspect. They didn't just trespass on government property.
 

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They aren't fucking around. I read somewhere that the count is thousands of jobs and including NGO contracts, etc. the total being spent on DEI may have been in the billions ... the last bastion for these people is going to be academia as DEI is also getting cut in throughout corporate America.
 

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It’s also getting cut out of Academia as well thankfully. Especially any university that relies heavily on federal money.

Really the only complaint on Trump 2.0 is the pardoning of violent J6ers and some personnel decisions. But for the most part I have been very happy
 

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They aren't fucking around. I read somewhere that the count is thousands of jobs and including NGO contracts, etc. the total being spent on DEI may have been in the billions ... the last bastion for these people is going to be academia as DEI is also getting cut in throughout corporate America.


Shoot this shit in my veins.

The most violence I saw on J6 was from folks receiving government paychecks. Biden pardoned (preemptively) the only J6 murderer. Keep pushing that narrative of the violent uprising though - same effect of calling everyone Nazis.
 
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