Tommy Rees - Offensive Coordinator

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I love Tommy, can't imagine how excited and grateful he is, and hope he crushes it -- but I also really hope the rationale for hiring him extends beyond "the players love him." I haven't read any write-ups on how innovative he is from a scheme perspective.
 

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Yeah, this is analogous to the Clark Lea hire on almost every level. People just don't want to say that because Lea has been a success. At the time he had zero experience and was a completely unknown quantity that was hired because:
1. He was smart.
2. Players liked and respected him.
3. They wanted to emphasize continuity.

We'll see if it does or does not work out as well.

I also think that philosophically there are similarities in that players above scheme. If the bowl game is any indication there were things being done to get our personnel into the right position versus forcing them to execute a scheme they weren't suited for. And obviously that is a Coach Lea staple.
 

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Yeah, this is analogous to the Clark Lea hire on almost every level. People just don't want to say that because Lea has been a success. At the time he had zero experience and was a completely unknown quantity that was hired because:
1. He was smart.
2. Players liked and respected him.
3. They wanted to emphasize continuity.

We'll see if it does or does not work out as well.

I hope so, though it feels a little more like the Quinn hiring where we supposedly had a national search only to find the best guy on staff. Seems that Lea was a no brainer and we were more worried about him leaving with Elko.

Either way, congrats Tom. Now go out there and get some studs.
 

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For Koon & Friends giving me shit today about the OC search, here is what I said over two months ago about Long, Rees, and next year's OC --

I’d be utterly shocked if he is on the ND sideline next year.

This may shock you, but there is interest from P5 programs in Rees as an OC. He is a great football mind. Everyone on the offensive staff is being held back by Long.

If Kelly is here next year, I’d bet it’s Quinn or Rees.

And this is what I said a few weeks ago on the rationale as to why it makes sense --

They need to focus on finding someone who will build on and improve the current system. Starting over would be a huge mistake, because even if you get an excellent coach from outside this current scheme they're going to be a 1-2 year stop gap then move on to an HC role somewhere else. And the risk you run with an outside hire is disrupting recruiting and disrupting team production.

You have three potential hires on this staff that could work in collaboration or independently - Quinn, Rees, Taylor. I don't know of any outside hires that could integrate seamlessly.

And despite what has been leaked/publicly stated, this was effectively the 5th game in Rees' audition. They've all been impressive, but what was most impressive to me here was a glimpse towards a better blocking scheme. I'm optimistic about how the line will perform with their two best players back and a year of play calling that doesn't put them in position to fail. One thing Long did really well was red zone play calling and I think red zone efficiency is one area where we could see a drop off.

Here is how Rees did in his 5 games of significant input/control:
Duke - 38 points, solid. Book = 87.5 QBR
Navy - 52 points, absolute destruction. Book = 98.8 QBR
BC - 40 points, solid. Book = 72.2 QBR
Stanford - 45 points, butt kicking after sluggish start. Book = 80.1 QBR
Iowa State - 33 points, by far their worst beat down of the year and ND called off the dogs in the second half because of MOV. Book = 91.0 QBR

The key take away for me is Book and the passing game excelling despite the OL losing their top 2 linemen. He played so much better over the last third of the season because of how the passing game was coordinated. Basically all of his best QBR games against legitimate opponents came over that span, and he played at the level of a Top 10 QB. That increased production is the single best data point to look to say that Rees can absolutely 100% do half of the job. What we don't know for certain is that he can do the second half, but I think that's where you try to lean on someone like Taylor or Quinn. There is no reason to blow everything up and start over.

And this is how it played out.

The main reason I don't post rumors on the board is because of pedantic people like you who make it more trouble then its worth. I'd say about 25% of the time rumors are completely wrong, 50% of the time they're partially wrong, and 25% of the time they're right. I don't feel like having to add disclaimers on every single one of my posts, or defend stuff I said 75% of the time when it's at least partially wrong. In this case I was basically spot on, and you're *still* up my ass about Tommy and things I didn't even say.

Also, FWIW, ND went hard after Chad Morris and Joe Moorhead. Sometimes it doesn't work out. Kelly inquired after over a dozen big names... so yes, this is settling. And yes, this is high risk. But it emphasizes continuity with a 3 year starter at QB, and I'll root for it to be successful.
 

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Smart guy, understands modern football, football rat and great recruiter. If BK allows him to flourish this will be a great hire. Young offensive minds are changing the college football landscape. The QB makes most of the decisions in spread anyway. I’m excited to see what type of plays Tommy draws up in the passing game, and how he works with Taylor to develop their own identity. I had a great feeling about Lea as a guy who just “gets it”. Same with Tommy.
 

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Also, FWIW, ND went hard after Chad Morris and Joe Moorhead. Sometimes it doesn't work out. Kelly inquired after over a dozen big names... so yes, this is settling. And yes, this is high risk. But it emphasizes continuity with a 3 year starter at QB, and I'll root for it to be successful.

In these situations, any idea why they didn't work out? Money? Control? Fit?
 

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LOL. After the Clemson blowout last year I have accepted we will never win another title . Reese will no doubt be named the head coach when Kelly retires...

8-10 wins seem to make most people happy so this fills the need.
 

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LOL. After the Clemson blowout last year I have accepted we will never win another title . Reese will no doubt be named the head coach when Kelly retires...

8-10 wins seem to make most people happy so this fills the need.

Wouldn't it be relevant to note that there is a fairly significant difference between 8 and 10 wins? Wouldn't it also be relevant to note that there is also a significant difference between that line of thinking and our actual results? Since we've actually won 12 and 11 games in back to back years.
 

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Wouldn't it be relevant to note that there is a fairly significant difference between 8 and 10 wins? Wouldn't it also be relevant to note that there is also a significant difference between that line of thinking and our actual results? Since we've actually won 12 and 11 games in back to back years.

47 wins in last 5 years is a tad over 9 per year. So 8-10 is about right.

I don’t see any significant difference between 8 and 10 wins. They both get you to a meaningless bowl and out of the playoffs
 

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47 wins in last 5 years is a tad over 9 per year. So 8-10 is about right.

I don’t see any significant difference between 8 and 10 wins. They both get you to a meaningless bowl and out of the playoffs
10 wins get a good bowl most years. Anyone who argues there's no difference between 8 and 10 wins is probably an "all or nothing" person and I'm guessing there's no pleasing them. Sucks to be them.

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For Koon & Friends giving me shit today about the OC search, here is what I said over two months ago about Long, Rees, and next year's OC --







And this is what I said a few weeks ago on the rationale as to why it makes sense --



And this is how it played out.

The main reason I don't post rumors on the board is because of pedantic people like you who make it more trouble then its worth. I'd say about 25% of the time rumors are completely wrong, 50% of the time they're partially wrong, and 25% of the time they're right. I don't feel like having to add disclaimers on every single one of my posts, or defend stuff I said 75% of the time when it's at least partially wrong. In this case I was basically spot on, and you're *still* up my ass about Tommy and things I didn't even say.

Also, FWIW, ND went hard after Chad Morris and Joe Moorhead. Sometimes it doesn't work out. Kelly inquired after over a dozen big names... so yes, this is settling. And yes, this is high risk. But it emphasizes continuity with a 3 year starter at QB, and I'll root for it to be successful.

Well if anyone wants to root for the team to lose they probably shouldn’t be a fan!!
 

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Yeah, this is analogous to the Clark Lea hire on almost every level. People just don't want to say that because Lea has been a success. At the time he had zero experience and was a completely unknown quantity that was hired because:
1. He was smart.
2. Players liked and respected him.
3. They wanted to emphasize continuity.

We'll see if it does or does not work out as well.

Imo The Lea hire was/is the best hire that Kelly has made.
 

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10 wins get a good bowl most years. Anyone who argues there's no difference between 8 and 10 wins is probably an "all or nothing" person and I'm guessing there's no pleasing them. Sucks to be them.

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Not sure what you mean by all or nothing. I’ve accepted 8-10 wins is a success and anything more is swell.
 

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This is the appropriate end to the Kelly era at ND. There are two outcomes:

1) The Kelly era comes full circle. Reesus and Kelly lead ND to the promised land, Kelly retires on top of the CFP world, and Reesus takes over the program.

2) This all goes to shit and Kelly is undone by the same character who caused us all endless heartburn 10 years ago.

It had to end like this. Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Kelly going next man up again trying to catch lightning in a bottle like he did with Clark Lea. If this works again how they were acquired is a must case study</p>— Matrix Analytical (@AthDeptEdges) <a href="https://twitter.com/AthDeptEdges/status/1217216040171528197?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 14, 2020</a></blockquote>
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Kelly going next man up again trying to catch lightning in a bottle like he did with Clark Lea. If this works again how they were acquired is a must case study</p>— Matrix Analytical (@AthDeptEdges) <a href="https://twitter.com/AthDeptEdges/status/1217216040171528197?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 14, 2020</a></blockquote>

How they were acquired?
Lea came with Elko and Rees was recruited like 12 years ago to wear a red hat and signal in the plays.
It’s not rocket science, it’s recognizing the talent you have in house (if this works, that is).
 

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Not sure what you mean by all or nothing. I’ve accepted 8-10 wins is a success and anything more is swell.

I'm close to that. I would say with our schedule, talent level, and coaching, 10 wins next year should be considered a success. Much like this year. I never understand how people can follow this program as closely as many do and be surprised/get mad, when we get blown out by elite teams (or lose to equal teams). We're a good solid 8-14 program, which coincidently enough, is where our talent level is. I still enjoy watching and following the Irish.
 

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How they were acquired?
Lea came with Elko and Rees was recruited like 12 years ago to wear a red hat and signal in the plays.
It’s not rocket science, it’s recognizing the talent you have in house (if this works, that is).

The thought process beyond "hey, they already work here, let's promote them."

Because that's terrible reasoning if that's as far as it went, even if it works out (as Lea has).
 

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On the record right now that, while I will obviously root for his success, I think this is going to be an utter disaster. Not going to comment further because I don't feel like getting into a back and forth but just want my opinion on the record.

Duly noted.
 

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Hmm...? If the average is over 9 wins, where does the number 8 come into play?

Good talk.

Yikes! Chill bro. 8 is kind considering it was 4 not so long ago. Aren’t you happy with the hire or Reese
 
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Yikes! Chill bro

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At least we finally have an OC that's in the booth.

Any OC that coaches from the sidelines is a fraud.
 

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IMO, this is the correct way to do things. I think there are going to be a LOT of people that will implicitly root for him to fail just to be vindicated. Or whenever something goes wrong their reaction will be to blame Tommy.

That’s an understatement.
 

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How they were acquired?
Lea came with Elko and Rees was recruited like 12 years ago to wear a red hat and signal in the plays.
It’s not rocket science, it’s recognizing the talent you have in house (if this works, that is).

I think he means internally rather than off the shelf. If an internal hire turns out to be good then you probably get to say you are a coordinator whisperer.
 

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I hope he turns out to be the next Lincoln Riley.

Does he have one of those Sean McVay work ethics?
 
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