The ND QB Conundrum

[BoredIrish]

Love behind Coogan and Spindler win this game with Angeli.
ND's issues start above the QB.

 

[Giddyup]

This is the big leagues. I would hope coach would make a move and give the next balla the go ahead.

 

[Terry Jillery]

Nebraska is doing what they’re supposed to do. CO has a lot more talent than NIU.

 

[BeatSC]

Powlus, Holiday, Clausen, Quinn, Book, Kizer.
All of them win easily today.

Holiday? No. Jarrious Jackson? Yes

 

[Katzenboyer]

I just don't understand how the staff could see Leonard's play and continue to trot him out there. He's cooked.

 

[NumbersGuy0520]

I just don't understand how the staff could see Leonard's play and continue to trot him out there. He's cooked.

No balls. He looked terrible and also got semi-injured at one point. If we have such a “loaded” QB room, give another guy a few series.

 

[Rizzophil]

I just don't understand how the staff could see Leonard's play and continue to trot him out there. He's cooked.

I honestly think he’s hurt

He was wincing when he got tackled in first quarter.

Another reason to try Angeli

 

[stlnd01]

I honestly think he’s hurt

He was wincing when he got tackled in first quarter.

Another reason to try Angeli

He ran 11 times in the first half. Three plays in a row at one point in the second quarter. That's not going to work for long.

 

[Giddyup]

How do you lose to Northern Illinois? No explosiveness

 

[IrishinSyria]

ND has had one good QB in the last 30 years it’s no coincidence the title drought roughly spans just as long.

Genuinely don’t know if you’re talking about Quinn, Kizer, or Clausen.

 

[IrishinSyria]

Hartman lost to OSU, UL, and Clemson. Not NIU.

Hartman cruises

Agree Hartman was better but his line was great.

 

[T-Boone]

Agree Hartman was better but his line was great.

Our line last year was great?

 

[CANONIZEFATHERSORIN]

ND has had one good QB in the last 30 years it’s no coincidence the title drought roughly spans just as long.

Interestingly though our 1988 QB wasn’t any good

 

[CTIDANDREW]

I think I could comfortably name 30-40 programs that have had better QB play than us since the 16’ Kizer final season…and I can’t even begin to explain how incredibly frustrated that makes me.
It is demoralizing, and just unacceptable.

I’m hopeful that Carr will fix that for the next few seasons.

 

[phork]

I've seen enough of Riley. Hurt or not he cannot throw a football. No point in playing for a playoff spot if we just gonna get cooked.

 

[greyhammer90]

I think I could comfortably name 30-40 programs that have had better QB play than us since the 16’ Kizer final season…and I can’t even begin to explain how incredibly frustrated that makes me.
It is demoralizing, and just unacceptable.

I’m hopeful that Carr will fix that for the next few seasons.

It honestly feels like a curse has been put on the offenses of this program since Weis.

 

[IrishinSyria]

Our line last year was great?

However you want to characterize it, it is now missing a 5 overall left tackle and 2nd round right tackle.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

ND has had one good QB in the last 30 years it’s no coincidence the title drought roughly spans just as long.

Jimmy Clausen was elite in 2009 they just had zero defense and no run game whI h makes what he did all the more impressive.

 

[IrishinSyria]

Jimmy Clausen was elite in 2009 they just had zero defense and no run game whI h makes what he did all the more impressive.

The offense has never been more fun to watch than it was that year.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Greathouse could’ve changed the game but he dropped it. That’s not a Brown problem; Greathouse needs to reel that in.

Agreed. Mitchell had a few drops too

 

[Giddyup]

Sam Hartman wins this game 10/10 times

 

[N_D_Fighting_Irish]

I get your point, but Tony Rice wasn't exactly a world beater at QB. You can still win in college with above average to good QB play. It's harder and the formula for it to work is even harder at ND, but it can be done. But you can't win with mediocre, and too often, we've had mediocre sold to us as good if not great.

Kevin MacDougal was the best QB in the past 30 years, and that team was robbed of a NC.

 

[CTIDANDREW]

It honestly feels like a curse has been put on the offenses of this program since Weis.

Hopefully the one to break it is a Michigan Man’s grandson…because if he cannot do it.

I may just give up all hope.

 

[1rishftw]

It's painfully obvious that this team needs continuity, a guy who is able to grow into the role and not a one-and-done, plug-and-play, ready-to-eat meal type of transfer qb. All of our transfer qbs (at least until proven wrong about riley) have been unsatisfactory to some degree. We need a developed Notre Dame Man, not a transfer qb who only has one year to grow into the role.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

It's painfully obvious that this team needs continuity, a guy who is able to grow into the role and not a one-and-done, plug-and-play, ready-to-eat meal type of transfer qb. All of our transfer qbs (at least until proven wrong about riley) have been unsatisfactory to some degree. We need a developed Notre Dame Man, not a transfer qb who only has one year to grow into the role.

Wholeheartedly agree. There is a TON of young talent on this team showing out and getting experience this year. Next year they will be a year older, a year more experienced and ready to do some serious damage, but we wont have a quarterback with the experience. I would definitely get Carr or Minchey (whoever they think is the future) reps along with the other young WRs that can come back next year. Even 10 snaps a game would be huge.

 

[ulukinatme]

Golson was one of our best QB’s he was athletic enough had us 12-0 he got suspended we probally run the table with him again

Eh, people forget he had to get bailed out by Tommy against Purdue, and BYU, and Stanford, and Michigan. Then he became a turnover machine in 2014 when he returned. There were two sides to Golson.

 

[GATTACA!]

It's painfully obvious that this team needs continuity, a guy who is able to grow into the role and not a one-and-done, plug-and-play, ready-to-eat meal type of transfer qb. All of our transfer qbs (at least until proven wrong about riley) have been unsatisfactory to some degree. We need a developed Notre Dame Man, not a transfer qb who only has one year to grow into the role.

I agree. Look at Texas with Ewers.

 

[Irish4life]

I agree. Look at Texas with Ewers.

Ewers was a transfer QB for Texas

 

[GATTACA!]

Ewers was a transfer QB for Texas

Yes but this is his 3rd season starting for them. They took their lumps and grew with him as a sophomore. We would have sat him and brought in a Riley Leonard to start instead.

 

[irishff1014]

If I am Steve I am entering the portal as soon as I can.