Stanford Recruiting and Everything Else

[EvilleIrish]

Or Trevor Speights

Can’t find anything on him from last year. Redshirt?

 

[dad4aa]

Cameron Scarlett?

He used up his eligibility last year as a fifth year.

Trevor Speights would be my guess.

 

[NDMIA]

Cameron Scarlett?

Trevor Speights. 3.8 yard per carry and missed the entire season last year due to injury. Why is this guy even an option? What am I missing here?

 

[Big23Head]

Trevor Speights. 3.8 yard per carry and missed the entire season last year due to injury. Why is this guy even an option? What am I missing here?

ND may have an injured RB right now and another may switch/semi switch positions to WR

 

[koonja]

Trevor Speights. 3.8 yard per carry and missed the entire season last year due to injury. Why is this guy even an option? What am I missing here?

I mean, I'd take him.

I'm hoping we get 2 transfers from the RB group, Avery Davis and one of C'bo or Smith.

And I hope it's not Smith because I think he's the best pure RB on the team but he cannot seem to get carries.

C'bo runs hard, but isn't talented enough to play at this level, IMO. Jafar is useful and probably our RB1 because of his size and speed, but he's limited because he doesn't "see" the holes like a RB should. Kyren needs to reshape his body or he's going to be a mini-Tony Jones Jr.

None of these guys are going to keep Tyree/Shipley off of the field, maybe Kyren if he improves, but it's a log jam and they're all vets at this point.

I'd take a chance on a healthy Speights assuming we have at least 1, maybe 2 RB transfers.

*Disclaimer -- No reason at all to believe any particular RB is looking to transfer, but these things just happen when you have a boat load of RBs and none of them have proven themselves*

 

[koonja]

1 Year of Speights, then 2021 you have:

Tyree, Kyren, one of Smith/C'bo, Shipley, and whatever other 2021 RB they sign.

 

[NDIrish88]

ND may have an injured RB right now and another may switch/semi switch positions to WR

If Davis goes to WR, who is the injured RB?

 

[Irish#1]

Trevor Speights. 3.8 yard per carry and missed the entire season last year due to injury. Why is this guy even an option? What am I missing here?

I mean, I'd take him.

What? You feeling okay? This is exactly the type of guy you typically go off on the staff about.

Why are we bringin in damaged goods?
This guy's just a 3 star.
Just what we need another back that can't even average 4 yds per carry.

 

[koonja]

What? You feeling okay? This is exactly the type of guy you typically go off on the staff about.

Why are we bringin in damaged goods?
This guy's just a 3 star.
Just what we need another back that can't even average 4 yds per carry.

All of our RBs on the roster are RB3's (besides Smith but he can't even get RB3 carries).

At this point it's "why not". Maybe he's better than the other guys, and if not, it's a one year lease.

And other than Kyren, I don't think it matters if any of the RBs would transfer because of this.

 

[NDdomer2]

are we assuming Davis is going to WR and not Jafar?

Any word on who the injured RB is? If it's rumor that isn't allowed on the main board - put in a rep comment.

 

[ThePiombino]

Was really hoping this was going to be a CB...

 

[fightingirish26]

This guy was extremely productive in TX high school football. 9,868 yards, 114 TDs in the highest classification.

Redshirted as a freshman, and no one was really going to take carries away from Bryce Love during '17 or '18. Scarlett seemed to be ahead of Speights on the depth chart in '17 and '18, but who knows how their touches would have been split last year.

Looking at our depth chart, we have no feature back. We'll try to get Tyree touches in space, but who's getting the bulk of the carries?

Jafar? Hopefully the abdominal injury was seriously holding him back, because he looked awful. Would rather him just move to WR if he's as unnatural of a RB as he looked last year.

C'Bo? Runs hard, but is small, slow, poor vision. Maybe he can keep the short yardage role.

Jahmir? Flashes sometimes, but not often enough. It's true that he looks like the most natural back out of him Jafar and C'Bo, but he got dropped in the backfield an awful lot IIRC.

Kyren? Thought it was kind of a rough deal for him to have effectively been benched for the entire season after dropping one pass in the first game. Have moderate expectations for him.

Avery? Tough luck, but the guy has no position.

If Speights was one of our returning backs? I'd probably rate him higher than Jafar, C'Bo and Avery, and arguably higher than Jahmir and Kyren. For one year, don't see the harm.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

are we assuming Davis is going to WR and not Jafar?



Any word on who the injured RB is? If it's rumor that isn't allowed on the main board - put in a rep comment.

This is where I'm at. There should be enough RB's on the roster next year that will allow Armstrong to go back to his natural position of WR. WR is where I would like to see Jafar at next year. Doesn't mean we won't see him on end arounds and jet sweeps.

This guy was extremely productive in TX high school football. 9,868 yards, 114 TDs in the highest classification.

Redshirted as a freshman, and no one was really going to take carries away from Bryce Love during '17 or '18. Scarlett seemed to be ahead of Speights on the depth chart in '17 and '18, but who knows how their touches would have been split last year.

Looking at our depth chart, we have no feature back. We'll try to get Tyree touches in space, but who's getting the bulk of the carries?

Jafar? Hopefully the abdominal injury was seriously holding him back, because he looked awful. Would rather him just move to WR if he's as unnatural of a RB as he looked last year.

C'Bo? Runs hard, but is small, slow, poor vision. Maybe he can keep the short yardage role.

Jahmir? Flashes sometimes, but not often enough. It's true that he looks like the most natural back out of him Jafar and C'Bo, but he got dropped in the backfield an awful lot IIRC.

Kyren? Thought it was kind of a rough deal for him to have effectively been benched for the entire season after dropping one pass in the first game. Have moderate expectations for him.

Avery? Tough luck, but the guy has no position.

If Speights was one of our returning backs? I'd probably rate him higher than Jafar, C'Bo and Avery, and arguably higher than Jahmir and Kyren. For one year, don't see the harm.

Jahmir did get dropped in the backfield often. Part of the reason is i think he was a little hesitant at times. But the majority of the reason was he was running behind the second string OL which looked horrible and had no cohesion.

Kyren got benched for dropping a pass? my understanding was that it was a mutual decision by the coaches and himself to red shirt for the season. Keep in mind he was on KR team for 4 games...

 

[koonja]

I don't see Jafar moving to WR. He's probably our starting RB next year, granted it'll be by a small margin.

 

[NDinMI]

Was really hoping this was going to be a CB...

Same.

I feel like a decent CB would help this team a lot more than a RB. Hard to imagine they feel the need to bring in an unproven guy with little PT because they dont see enough with Armstrong, Davis, Flemister, Smith, Williams & Tyree. Even if they move Davis to WR that still puts them at 6 RB’s if he transfers in. Perhaps there is a guy planning to transfer out for all we know, but if that isn’t the case then I feel like it’s a pretty odd move.

 

[Irishize]

Speights didn’t play as a frosh or as a senior so he has two years to play two. This would not be a one year rental.

He’s 5’9” approx 200 lbs. he hasn’t done much in college. Had some nice P5 offers and is now looking for the right fit athletically & academically to showcase his services for the NFL yet walk away with some impressive degrees for post-football.

Lance Taylor is the key here. He recruited him to Stanford and knows the family well. I don’t see any other contenders for Speights so I suspect the RB group will grow by one for the time being.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

I don't see Jafar moving to WR. He's probably our starting RB next year, granted it'll be by a small margin.

Probably correct. But what I'm saying is Armstrong is a natural WR and would be better used as a WR. If the staff feel comfortable with Smith, C-Bo, Kyren, Tyree and Davis at RB going into the season than Jafar can move to WR and move to RB in an emergency.

 

[JD Irish]

Speights didn’t play as a frosh or as a senior so he has two years to play two. This would not be a one year rental.

He’s 5’9” approx 200 lbs. he hasn’t done much in college. Had some nice P5 offers and is now looking for the right fit athletically & academically to showcase his services for the NFL yet walk away with some impressive degrees for post-football.

Lance Taylor is the key here. He recruited him to Stanford and knows the family well. I don’t see any other contenders for Speights so I suspect the RB group will grow by one for the time being.

That's not how redshirting works. You have five years to play four. It doesn't matter if there are multiple years where a player doesn't play, unless those years are both due to injury and the player is granted a 6th year.

 

[stpeteirish]

Looked at his stats on Stanford website, pretty underwhelming. He did get 5 carries vs ND one year, I recall him looking pretty fast with power but no wiggle. Seems to be in the same mold as Jahmir Smith.

Composite 3 star out of Texas, 4 star from Scout. 88 rating on 247 composite. From McAllen, down by Brownsville, not a strong part of the state for football (mostly Tex/Mex). Ran for almost 10,000 yards.

Anyone know what his injury was to keep him out all year?

Kind of a puzzling addition unless we are losing a RB.

 

[fightingirish26]

This is where I'm at. There should be enough RB's on the roster next year that will allow Armstrong to go back to his natural position of WR. WR is where I would like to see Jafar at next year. Doesn't mean we won't see him on end arounds and jet sweeps.



Jahmir did get dropped in the backfield often. Part of the reason is i think he was a little hesitant at times. But the majority of the reason was he was running behind the second string OL which looked horrible and had no cohesion.

Kyren got benched for dropping a pass? my understanding was that it was a mutual decision by the coaches and himself to red shirt for the season. Keep in mind he was on KR team for 4 games...

I mean kyren was clearly a part of the offensive gamelan against Louisville, until he dropped an easy pass

 

[koonja]

I don't think Jafar would see reps at WR. I do think he'll get significant work at RB.

If we're being honest, Avery Davis probably doesn't get reps at either. So if you have to move someone and he's willing, I'd move Davis, personally, because then Jafar can still impact the offense.

I'm hoping Avery Davis can somehow get the PR1 role, so he can feel like he's a serious contributor to this team. It's too bad he's had to move so much because he cannot find a spot.

 

[ThePiombino]

If we're taking on yet another RB they need to seriously consider moving two guys. Move Davis to CB and Armstrong to WR. Speights, CF, JS, KW, and CT should be more than enough to shoulder the load. JA could always be moved back in case of emergency.

Or, you know, we could actually string together a few decent RB recruiting cycles and not have to deal with any of this shit.

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[Sherm Sticky]

I don't think Jafar would see reps at WR. I do think he'll get significant work at RB.

If we're being honest, Avery Davis probably doesn't get reps at either. So if you have to move someone and he's willing, I'd move Davis, personally, because then Jafar can still impact the offense.

I'm hoping Avery Davis can somehow get the PR1 role, so he can feel like he's a serious contributor to this team. It's too bad he's had to move so much because he cannot find a spot.

Why don't you think Jafar would see reps at WR? To crowded at WR position? Don't think he has the skill set? Not talented enough? Just curious.

 

[koonja]

Why don't you think Jafar would see reps at WR? To crowded at WR position? Don't think he has the skill set? Not talented enough? Just curious.

All of the above.

Swaracki (NW), Lenzy, Keys, Austin, Jordan Johnson, McKinley, micah Jones, Joe Wilkins Jr...

Who would Jafar get reps over?

Maybe Wilkins Jr (who I'm very low on) and Micah Jones but Micah Jones might surprise some ppl down the road, IMO.

 

[dad4aa]

Speights didn’t play as a frosh or as a senior so he has two years to play two. This would not be a one year rental.

He’s 5’9” approx 200 lbs. he hasn’t done much in college. Had some nice P5 offers and is now looking for the right fit athletically & academically to showcase his services for the NFL yet walk away with some impressive degrees for post-football.

Lance Taylor is the key here. He recruited him to Stanford and knows the family well. I don’t see any other contenders for Speights so I suspect the RB group will grow by one for the time being.

You get five years to play four and he has been at Stanford for 4 years. He is now a one and done.

 

[IrishFaninTX]

I would imagine ND would be a desirable destination for Speight. We don't have a clear, rockstar RB on the roster and even with Tyree coming this summer, he'll be a freshman and will likely only be used in special packages, not an every down back his 1st year. Plus, he knows Taylor and likely has a relationship there. None of the big schools that make the CFP every year really need a transfer RB and ND is a team who can make the playoffs if things go right. Seems like a no-brainer to me.

 

[Irishize]

That's not how redshirting works. You have five years to play four. It doesn't matter if there are multiple years where a player doesn't play, unless those years are both due to injury and the player is granted a 6th year.

I know how redshirting works. I’m simply referencing to what Tom Loy reported.

 

[Irishize]

You get five years to play four and he has been at Stanford for 4 years. He is now a one and done.

I know. Tom Loy reported otherwise so there must be a medical RS involved.

 

[zelezo vlk]

I mean, I'd take him.

I'm hoping we get 2 transfers from the RB group, Avery Davis and one of C'bo or Smith.

*Disclaimer -- No reason at all to believe any particular RB is looking to transfer, but these things just happen when you have a boat load of RBs and none of them have proven themselves*

Hey Koon, don't say you're that you're hoping guys transfer and name names. That's pretty shitty.

 

[koonja]

Hey Koon, don't say you're that you're hoping guys transfer and name names. That's pretty shitty.

A player will transfer if it's in their best interest. ND doesn't need ~ four RB3's all within a year of each other. That's poor roster stacking (Thanks Denson).

It would be in ND's best interest if at least 1 did. But if the players choose not to - more power to them. I'm not wishing it on any individual RB, but ND would benefit if 1/2 did, IMO.