Stanford Recruiting and Everything Else

[ResLife Hero]

Seems like we have threads for our other major rivals, but none for the Cardinal. Since this rivalry appears to be renewed for the foreseeable future, and we battle over many of the same recruits, I figured I'd start a thread. Plus, I just really dislike them as a program.

Last year they signed Keller Chryst and beat us out for Solomon Thomas, Dalton Schultz and Terrence Alexander. This year they've landed Ben Edwards (our top remaining S prospect at the time) plus Cameron Scarlett and are getting a late visit from ESB. Given their academics and recent football success, they're a team I can see continuing to challenge us.

Just today they picked up another big time WR with top-tier offers:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Four-star WR Trent Irwin talks about his decision to pick <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Stanford?src=hash">#Stanford</a> over <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ASU?src=hash">#ASU</a> right here <a href="http://t.co/c1viVp3gwM">http://t.co/c1viVp3gwM</a> <a href="http://t.co/hSHi9ALmsS">pic.twitter.com/hSHi9ALmsS</a></p>— Adam Gorney (@adamgorney) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamgorney/status/552583989165584384">January 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[IrishLax]

Scarlett never came close to having a committable offer from us.

Truth is, Stanford and ND compete for a lot of the same guys but ND wins far more of the recruiting battles with Stanford where we're the top 2. Edwards and Alexander are the only guys in recent memory where we finished directly second to them. For example, Solomon Thomas was awesome but he was also never coming to ND. Usually this means there is something about ND that turned them off (location, religion, etc.) that isn't a turnoff about Stanford.

The only thing that interests me about Stanford is their combination of sheer dumb luck and/or PEDs ... I mean ... "cold glove" ... that allows their players to have incredible strength gains, insane recovery times, and a statistical anomaly in terms of team health. We need to copy cat that program.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/nickbaumgardner">@nickbaumgardner</a> And also close to an 87% reduction in season-ending injuries in that span for Stanford (not joking!)</p>— David Lombardi (@LombardiESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LombardiESPN/status/551884813637287936">January 4, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[ResLife Hero]

Hadn't heard much about PEDs or "Cold Gloves", but if this "cold glove" thing is legit, why isn't everyone using it?

Stanford researchers' cooling glove 'better than steroids'

Those injury rates are insanely (suspiciously) low.

 

[IrishLax]

Official: <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>RT <a href="https://twitter.com/StanfordFball">@StanfordFball</a>: LT <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrusPeat">@AndrusPeat</a> declares for NFL Draft. <a href="http://t.co/Qy9wMvjW65">http://t.co/Qy9wMvjW65</a></p>— Bryan Fischer (@BryanDFischer) <a href="https://twitter.com/BryanDFischer/status/552589858942619648">January 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[IrishLax]

Hadn't heard much about PEDs or "Cold Gloves", but if this "cold glove" thing is legit, why isn't everyone using it?

Stanford researchers' cooling glove 'better than steroids'

Because it's not legit. It's a cover for PEDs.

If there was a totally legal piece of equipment that was ACTUALLY better than steroids then literally everyone in every sport would be using it.

 

[Luckylucci]

Because it's not legit. It's a cover for PEDs.

If there was a totally legal piece of equipment that was ACTUALLY better than steroids then literally everyone in every sport would be using it.

First time I've seen those numbers. With those numbers being so insanely low, why isn't this raising any red flags yet?

 

[koonja]

I want greg bryant to take steroids somehow. Then do the half jersjersey roll (insert randy marsh gif)

 

[GoldenDomer]

I want greg bryant to take steroids somehow. Then do the half jersjersey roll (insert randy marsh gif)

Soooo you want James Wilder Jr?

 

[NDPhilly]

Soooo you want James Wilder Jr?

High School Senior here

speaking of roids

 

[GoldenDomer]

High School Senior here

speaking of roids

Got veins?

 

[Legacy]

Stanford Commits with ND interest

Stanford Commits with ND interest

2014 - Christian McCafferty, offered, did not take OV to ND

2013 - Austin Hooper, offered, did not take OV to ND

2012 class - Joshua Garnett - made official visit
- Kyle Murphy, offered, did not take OV to ND
- Alex Carter, offered, did not take OV to ND
- Noor Davis, offered, did not take OV to ND
- Andrus Peat, offered, did not take OV to ND

2011 class - James Vaughters, offered, did not take OV to ND

 

[NDPhilly]

Did Noor Davis just disappear? Thought that kid was gonna be a stud

 

[IrishLax]

Did Noor Davis just disappear? Thought that kid was gonna be a stud

He's "not dedicated enough to football." And you can read between the lines on that however your want.

I, too, thought he would be great.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

He's "not dedicated enough to football." And you can read between the lines on that however your want.

I, too, thought he would be great.

Is he still enrolled at Stanford?


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[IrishSteelhead]

What was the deal with the Lueders flip? Was it the new staff?

 

[GoldenDome]

Before Harbaugh left, we were 3rd for Amir Carlisle behind Stanford and USC. Also, had Niklas qualified we would have lost him to Stanford.

 

[ResLife Hero]

What was the deal with the Lueders flip? Was it the new staff?

Damn, I forgot about that one. Hurt at the time.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

What was the deal with the Lueders flip? Was it the new staff?

Pretty much. He turned out to be a solid player, but not great.


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[Redbar]

Wayne Lyons was another safety prospect, that I thought we would get that went tree.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Pretty much. He turned out to be a solid player, but not great.


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I know he had a lot of injuries that derailed his progression.

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Excited to say that I have been admitted into Stanford and will be committing there <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/fearthetree?src=hash">#fearthetree</a> <a href="http://t.co/oIhB3ZyGcR">pic.twitter.com/oIhB3ZyGcR</a></p>— Austin Maihen (@austinmaihen) <a href="https://twitter.com/austinmaihen/status/553667679886639104">January 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[BoredIrish]

At what point do we start talking about Shaw as not being a good recruiter? I felt last years class wasn't great and this one is under whelming as well.

 

[arrowryan]

At what point do we start talking about Shaw as not being a good recruiter? I felt last years class wasn't great and this one is under whelming as well.

Which it showed on the field. Any coach can look good when he has Andrew Luck as his QB. That really good group of linebackers is gone as well

 

[IrishLax]

The only thing Shaw is good at is whining.

 

[Grahambo]

Still wasn't a TD.

 

[scUM Hater]

Shaw is the present day Willingham of recruiting.

 

[scUM Hater]

I believe Shaw should've taken a NFL job when he had a chance. I don't see him being at Stanford in 3 years. He will be let go.

 

[IrishLax]

Noted this in the other thread but they just lost Arrington Farrar who was their second best rated player and I think set to play safety. Explains why they're chasing so many guys at that position.

To keep things in perspective, Stanford's AVERAGE player rating for their entire class right now is Nicco Fertitta... Notre Dame's lowest rated player by far. They have two total prospects with composite rating above 90. Only one commit -- Ben Edwards -- had an actionable offer from ND.

 

[KPENN]

Noted this in the other thread but they just lost Arrington Farrar who was their second best rated player and I think set to play safety. Explains why they're chasing so many guys at that position.

To keep things in perspective, Stanford's AVERAGE player rating for their entire class right now is Nicco Fertitta... Notre Dame's lowest rated player by far. They have two total prospects with composite rating above 90. Only one commit -- Ben Edwards -- had an actionable offer from ND.

I could see Stanford's run coming to an end. I don't think Shaw is a good enough coach to "coach up" these low rated recruits. He should have jumped at the NFL when his stock was high and he had the chance.

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Stanford?src=hash">#Stanford</a> picked up a new commitment, per the coach at St. Peter's Prep <a href="http://t.co/yxrIMDmDaz">http://t.co/yxrIMDmDaz</a></p>— ScoutBrianDohn (@BrianDohnScout) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrianDohnScout/status/560139302383140864">January 27, 2015</a></blockquote>
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