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2. I know Adams had an ACL in his JR of HS that he seemed to recover fully from. He wasted no time becoming a weapon on offense when injuries struck in 2015. Even amid a turd of a season last year, Adams put up big numbers and broke some big runs vs some good defenses. Either he is too banged up to be a factor or he has worn all the tread off his tires. I have to think it’s the former unless there’s some additional injury history I’m not aware of. Think back to the season finales in 2015 & 2016. He excelled in both of them and broke off some huge runs while racking up 168 yds @ Stanford and
180 yds @ SC. Keep in mind, he only had as many as 20 carries once in each season. He only hit 20 twice this season w/ 27 vs NCST & 20 in another game. Hopefully he can rest up for the bowl. If not & he’s no better then he should forego the bowl and let Dexter, Tony & Deon get the carries.

3. I’m not ready to say Long was a mistake. If the players, namely the QB, can’t execute the plays he calls, how can we properly judge Long? Look at the RPO vs Stanford...BW should’ve clearly opted to hit Stepherson with the quick pass to the boundary. Instead, he hands the ball off to Adams despite four defenders closing in.

4. I think most ND fans have concluded that Wimbush’s problem is between his ears. When local & national media declare that Brandon can make every pass in practice, what other conclusion is there to draw after 12 games in 2017 & three seasons at ND? My cynical side tells me the fanbase will be filled with hope as BW has a month to work on getting better. Then, I’m afraid, the doubt creeps back in as the opposing D brings pressure. I predict an open QB comp in the Spring.

6. Shaw would never come to ND IMO. In fact, as a Stanford alum & former player, I doubt he ever leaves for another college gig. His next stop, if anym will be the NFL...which I would love to see ASAP.

3. Long called several run plays on third down that were questionable. Some were RPO and some were not. Given your QB is making some questionable reads on RPO's then why even call those on third down? The quick throw for the WR screen is one BW struggled with all year. Why call it? Where is the TE over the middle. Pretty much MIA most of the season.

6. I agree. I was just mentioning him because there are a lot of Shaw haters on this board, yet his bad years are no worse than 9-3.
 

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3. Long called several run plays on third down that were questionable. Some were RPO and some were not. Given your QB is making some questionable reads on RPO's then why even call those on third down? The quick throw for the WR screen is one BW struggled with all year. Why call it? Where is the TE over the middle. Pretty much MIA most of the season.

6. I agree. I was just mentioning him because there are a lot of Shaw haters on this board, yet his bad years are no worse than 9-3.

I agree. Again, if he’s making the throws in practice as we are told, I suspect the coaches are convinced the play will be executed in the game. Granted, they've likely been beating their heads against the wall so by Game 12 u assume they scrap the RPO.
 

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2. I know Adams had an ACL in his JR of HS that he seemed to recover fully from. He wasted no time becoming a weapon on offense when injuries struck in 2015. Even amid a turd of a season last year, Adams put up big numbers and broke some big runs vs some good defenses. Either he is too banged up to be a factor or he has worn all the tread off his tires. I have to think it’s the former unless there’s some additional injury history I’m not aware of. Think back to the season finales in 2015 & 2016. He excelled in both of them and broke off some huge runs while racking up 168 yds @ Stanford and
180 yds @ SC. Keep in mind, he only had as many as 20 carries once in each season. He only hit 20 twice this season w/ 27 vs NCST & 20 in another game. Hopefully he can rest up for the bowl. If not & he’s no better then he should forego the bowl and let Dexter, Tony & Deon get the carries.

3. I’m not ready to say Long was a mistake. If the players, namely the QB, can’t execute the plays he calls, how can we properly judge Long? Look at the RPO vs Stanford...BW should’ve clearly opted to hit Stepherson with the quick pass to the boundary. Instead, he hands the ball off to Adams despite four defenders closing in.

4. I think most ND fans have concluded that Wimbush’s problem is between his ears. When local & national media declare that Brandon can make every pass in practice, what other conclusion is there to draw after 12 games in 2017 & three seasons at ND? My cynical side tells me the fanbase will be filled with hope as BW has a month to work on getting better. Then, I’m afraid, the doubt creeps back in as the opposing D brings pressure. I predict an open QB comp in the Spring.

6. Shaw would never come to ND IMO. In fact, as a Stanford alum & former player, I doubt he ever leaves for another college gig. His next stop, if anym will be the NFL...which I would love to see ASAP.

The issue about Adams IMO has all to do with defences focused on shutting down the running game and forcing BW to throw.

Adams is a very good RB. He is not Barry Sanders. No way does Adams run nilly dilly over a box stacked with 8 guys.

In the early part of the year Defences played balanced formations against our O. But when Miami went unbalanced and let BW throw, that was it. No more running game.
 

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I've said he sucks at throwing all year, every game besides the WF game, and taken heat for it. I think he's been consistently bad all year. There's a lot more proof that he's bad than that he's good.

Some people just don't have it. You see Wimbush in and he's hoping not to screw up. You see Book come in with minimal reps, less experience, and it's like he jumps on a horse and says giddee-up. Not saying he's awesome, but he's not shaky glass like Wimbush.

Anytime I have criticized Wimbush everyone piles on the WRs for dropping everything. It's like playing catch with my five year old - you are ready for anything, expecting to need to jump some direction to make a catch and then you get surprised by one right at you every once in a while - and you are so surprised by it you miss half of them.
 

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The issue about Adams IMO has all to do with defences focused on shutting down the running game and forcing BW to throw.

Adams is a very good RB. He is not Barry Sanders. No way does Adams run nilly dilly over a box stacked with 8 guys.

In the early part of the year Defences played balanced formations against our O. But when Miami went unbalanced and let BW throw, that was it. No more running game.

I don't recall many plays where I thought Adams left yards on the field. He has been tasked with a fools errand of late.
 

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Read somewhere awhile back Blockbuster could have bought Netflix for $1 million and turned it down. Ouch......

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