Skunkbear Signal Stealing Scandal

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If Michigan were to sue the Big Ten for suspending Harbaugh, wouldn't the Big Ten be able to file for discovery and find out everything?
 
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spoonidentity said:
The only hacking is allegedly Michigan obtaining 50 hours of practice footage from Ohio State. I don't have a source on this, it was one of those reddit and message board posts from 2 weeks ago.

Michigan fanboys are trying to obfuscate the situation and accuse tOSU of hacking UM. I think it seems from the report that "a third party firm" had information to give to the NCAA. It was probably a firm investigating Weiss's unspecified "computer crimes" for which he was fired that uncovered additional illegal activity and handed it over.

UM fanboys twisted that as Ryan Day hired his brother's PI firm in New Hampshire to hack into Michigan's computers which is the only way they would have found out about the sign stealing. So, you see, it's not that the sign stealing is illegal, rather how that information was obtained is "more illegaler" so that's why tOSU is actually the bad guy, and not the systemic multi-year cheating infrastructure at UM.

For those reading this, if you know people who subscribe to conspiracy theories on the regular, you can recognize the signs of flat eartherism or whataboutism in all of this. If you are a conspiracy theorist and reveling in the UM fiasco, I hope you can recognize the signs and break through the shell.
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Death penalty for Michigan and OSU I suppose. That's too bad.
 
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spoonidentity said:
The only hacking is allegedly Michigan obtaining 50 hours of practice footage from Ohio State. I don't have a source on this, it was one of those reddit and message board posts from 2 weeks ago.

Michigan fanboys are trying to obfuscate the situation and accuse tOSU of hacking UM. I think it seems from the report that "a third party firm" had information to give to the NCAA. It was probably a firm investigating Weiss's unspecified "computer crimes" for which he was fired that uncovered additional illegal activity and handed it over.

UM fanboys twisted that as Ryan Day hired his brother's PI firm in New Hampshire to hack into Michigan's computers which is the only way they would have found out about the sign stealing. So, you see, it's not that the sign stealing is illegal, rather how that information was obtained is "more illegaler" so that's why tOSU is actually the bad guy, and not the systemic multi-year cheating infrastructure at UM.

For those reading this, if you know people who subscribe to conspiracy theories on the regular, you can recognize the signs of flat eartherism or whataboutism in all of this. If you are a conspiracy theorist and reveling in the UM fiasco, I hope you can recognize the signs and break through the shell.
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Should we merge this with the Joe Biden Presidency thread? 🥸
 
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Take it for what (little) it’s worth…


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If all it does is suspend Harbaugh for 2023, Michigan still plays for a title.
 
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Lberry said:
If all it does is suspend Harbaugh for 2023, Michigan still plays for a title.
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I disagree. Their last three are tough. No way the combination of Minter and Moore go into Happy Valley and face OSU and go 2-0. And that Maryland game at Maryland is an absolute trap game. If they lose to PSU this weekend and Harbaugh is out, they could tailspin.

Here’s hoping.
 
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MacIrish75 said:
I disagree. Their last three are tough. No way the combination of Minter and Moore go into Happy Valley and face OSU and go 2-0. And that Maryland game at Maryland is an absolute trap game. If they lose to PSU this weekend and Harbaugh is out, they could tailspin.

Here’s hoping.
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Here’s hoping, but Penn St. is overrated and it’s an 11 am kick off. Not like they’re going in there at night. Ohio St. offense is still struggling and I’d take Michigan’s offense over Ohio St. defense.
 
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IrishFanForever23 said:
Here’s hoping, but Penn St. is overrated and it’s an 11 am kick off. Not like they’re going in there at night. Ohio St. offense is still struggling and I’d take Michigan’s offense over Ohio St. defense.
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Someone needs to go to prison for making UM vs PSU an 11am kick. Just sayin.
 
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There's absolutely no way Michigan wants to give the big 10 and the NCAA subpeona power right?

They aren't that stupid right?
 
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IrishFanForever23 said:
Here’s hoping, but Penn St. is overrated and it’s an 11 am kick off. Not like they’re going in there at night. Ohio St. offense is still struggling and I’d take Michigan’s offense over Ohio St. defense.
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I went to the Penn State - Ohio State game, and they are definitely overrated. After all preseason hearing how good Allar was, he was garbage, their running game was garbage and they had zero playmakers at WR. I loved it. I cannot…no, I will not ever pull for Penn State for obvious reasons.
 
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forkbeard3777 said:
I went to the Penn State - Ohio State game, and they are definitely overrated. After all season hearing how good Allar was, he was garbage, their running game was garbage and they had zero playmakers at WR. I loved it. I cannot…no, I will not ever pull for Penn State for obvious reasons.
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I'll pull for PSU this weekend as I don't want Michigan winning it all this year, but I don't see them really having a chance with that poor offense you mentioned.
 
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This is what I don’t get…

I fully understand the fact that the B1G can’t suspend Harbaugh yet, because they don’t know his involvement.
Fine.

But….why can’t they punish Michigan, as in forfeiting games, since they know for a fact, today, Michigan cheated, regardless whether it was Harbaugh or not.
Stallions was an employee of Michigan. He illegally benefitted Michigan. Michigan knew he was doing it, regardless of Harbaugh knowing or not.

So forget Harbaugh, why doesn’t the B1G just forfeit Michigan’s games so far this season?
Then they can investigate Harbaugh & if they are going to forfeit games the past 2 seasons too.

But forfeit games now, eliminate Michigan from the B1G title game & CFP.
That needs to be done immediately.
Harbaugh stuff will take care of itself.
 
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Reaper97 said:
This is what I don’t get…

I fully understand the fact that the B1G can’t suspend Harbaugh yet, because they don’t know his involvement.
Fine.

But….why can’t they punish Michigan, as in forfeiting games, since they know for a fact, today, Michigan cheated, regardless whether it was Harbaugh or not.
Stallions was an employee of Michigan. He illegally benefitted Michigan. Michigan knew he was doing it, regardless of Harbaugh knowing or not.

So forget Harbaugh, why doesn’t the B1G just forfeit Michigan’s games so far this season?
Then they can investigate Harbaugh & if they are going to forfeit games the past 2 seasons too.

But forfeit games now, eliminate Michigan from the B1G title game & CFP.
That needs to be done immediately.
Harbaugh stuff will take care of itself.
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Reaper97 said:
This is what I don’t get…

I fully understand the fact that the B1G can’t suspend Harbaugh yet, because they don’t know his involvement.
Fine.

But….why can’t they punish Michigan, as in forfeiting games, since they know for a fact, today, Michigan cheated, regardless whether it was Harbaugh or not.
Stallions was an employee of Michigan. He illegally benefitted Michigan. Michigan knew he was doing it, regardless of Harbaugh knowing or not.

So forget Harbaugh, why doesn’t the B1G just forfeit Michigan’s games so far this season?
Then they can investigate Harbaugh & if they are going to forfeit games the past 2 seasons too.

But forfeit games now, eliminate Michigan from the B1G title game & CFP.
That needs to be done immediately.
Harbaugh stuff will take care of itself.
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Completely correct. I've heard that they don't want to punish the players,. The same players who worked with the coaches to cheat and received the benefits of cheating. I guess the players who got cheated can get bent.
 
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Michigan is putting up a fight, I'll give them that.

Harbaugh will be suspended indefinitely, but will go to the NFL anyways. The Michigan program will vacate three years of wins from 2021 to present, they will be bowl ineligible for four years, and will vacate 40 scholarships over four years.

Take the punishment. You did wrong, your head coach wasn't in control of the program as he should have been, and now you are on a pity-party saying that the NCAA has it out for you because of some cheeseburgers. Good grief, **** right off with that crap.
 
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I mean, don't most criminal facing a death sentence at least try and put up a fight?
I at least know USC's RBs used to fight anyway
 
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