Should the statue come down?

kmoose

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Statue should be gone. Why keep a statue of a man who covered up sexual abuse to protect a friend and football program from scrutiny?

I don't think the statue should go. But I do get where you are coming from, and I respect your view on it.

But what is Penn State supposed to do? Just pretend like Joe Pa's football accomplishments never happened? I think I would leave the legend in place, and keep mentioning that he was a failed hero, every time I mentioned the legend. A cautionary tale, so to speak.
 

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Just move it to a dark corner removed from general traffic. Something like a permanent "time out."
 

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The statue went up for football wins.. The positive impact of football wins is heavily outweighed by negative impact of child rape.

Take it down, vacate all the wins Paterno achieved while Sandusky was a part of his staff.
 

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It's a shame that it ended this way but the statue needs to come down and the school needs to be banned from football for a few years. This whole ordeal could not have ended in a worse way. JoePa's image before all this was the epitome of what college football was all about. I could not think of a more horrific ending to his legend but it is what it is and what it is, is disturbing.
 

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I don't think the statue should go. But I do get where you are coming from, and I respect your view on it.

But what is Penn State supposed to do? Just pretend like Joe Pa's football accomplishments never happened? I think I would leave the legend in place, and keep mentioning that he was a failed hero, every time I mentioned the legend. A cautionary tale, so to speak.

Not a legend. Dont pretend it didnt happen. But by leaving a statue there they are showing respect for a man that should not have any respect given to him. Sit back and think, if this was your child would you want statues up if him respecting him for any reason?

And just a thought...by leaving the statue there are they ignoring that it happend?
 
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Take it down. I don't think the NCAA needs to give the death penalty, the recruits are going to do it themselves. No top recruit's parents will want their son to go there.

Ummmm, do you pay attention to recruiting at all?
 
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I think you have to take it down. This whole thing is beyond crazy.
 

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Hmm sweater, sweaters cover JoePa, JoePa covers scandals... Coincidence? I think not.
 

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Wow. What a weasel. JoePa already had an agreement to leave after the 2011 season (that none of the trustees knew of), but then tries to spin himself as acting righteously and walking away because of the scandal. Thank God he was fired. The man was an egotistical snake, I wish he were still alive so that he could be charged.

When the scandal broke last Nov. a coworker of mine at my former company insisted that Joe filled his moral responsibility. I, ofcourse argued, and she started getting belligerent asking if something like that happend at my company, would I call the cops? And not go to the CEO? I said that if someone were stealing staplers, no I would not call the cops, but if children were getting raped in the bathrooms I would tell the CEO, and if the police were not here within an hour...I would call them myself.

She went on to say that I would not/should not call the police, and my only responsibility is to notify the CEO. I was shocked. This was a 50 year old woman. I just said I guess I am a better person than employee. She said "you are just naive, and have no idea what you would do in that situation". Honestly, that is one situation where I know exactly what decision I would make.

Tear the statue down. If a church had a statue of a priest who served as a combat chaplin in WWII, did missionary work in Kenya, and fed/educated childeren all over the world for 60 years, but was involved in covering up for a child serial rapist, his statue would be DEMANDED to be removed. Joe was a football coach, and that is it. He wasn't a missionary, he never did anything heroic in his entire life, and when confront with the biggest decision he'd ever have to make, he went the wrong way to save his reputation.
 

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Tear it down. A flawed legend or whatever the hell some people want to call it is more like a guy who does good things but is an a-hole. Like Steve Jobs is a flawed legend because he treated workers like garbage, but he created great things. Joe Pa was a good football coach who was also a scumbag criminal.

If they do leave it up, it will be constantly messed with. And I guess taking it down would protect Paterno's family from the weekly event of the statue getting messed with, just to contrast Joe Pa not doing what he should have to protect families from the consistent rape of their children.
 

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Since he did not actually do the acts, I don't think his statue should be removed

He didn't physically do the acts, but by what he did or didn't do, those acts continued. F him and his statue. Most kids who are abused have told someone who then doesn't do anything to stop it.
 

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Isnt it ironic that Paterno said he didnt want to leave College Football to the Jackie Sherill and Barry Switzers of the world.

It also says humanitarian on his statue and it would be an insult for the victims if the statue is kept up.
 
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke

Just check the timeline from when Paterno knew about Sandusky and how many kids were abused after that date. When you do that, ask yourself if the statue should stay up.
 
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All of my vbucks to whoever vandalized that statue this football year.
 

RyCo1983

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You guys realize I only life half an hour away........And I want more vBucks!
 

RyCo1983

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Haha. I'm not stupid enough to do something like that.
 

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I dunno ... does any one know of a way to coax flocks of pigeons to do their "duty" 24/7 on Jo Pa's head?
 

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I was watching Mike and Mike the other morning with Buster Onley filling in for them. Yes i know he is a baseball guy but he had a good idea. He said that they Should put the statue in the Library and have the entire report there so that everyone could read it and make their own decision on this issue . That way noone could say i didn't realize all of that was in the report.
 
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