Shameful scheduling...

[kmoose]

If you are an FBS team on this list, you should be disqualified from consideration for/participation in a BCS bowl.

Most shameful matchups of the college football season

 

[NDWorld247]

Oregon might score 100 vs Nicholls St.

 

[IrishInFl]

In defense of Minnesota playing Western Illinois, Western Illinois will be much better this year because they hired my alma mater's head coach and ad (UMD). He won two national championships and won the d2 coach of the year.

 

[RammerJammer91]

If you are an FBS team on this list, you should be disqualified from consideration for/participation in a BCS bowl.

Most shameful matchups of the college football season

Totally respect your opinion, but could not disagree more. That wouldn't be because Bama won by 4TD's without breaking a sweat in the NCG last year against ND, of all teams, would it? No doubt that game is pathetic. It is, and any Bama fan that says it isn't is clueless. Keep in mind that not many teams (yes, there are some) face 2 teams on their schedule with the quality of A&M and LSU. But say Bama, ND, and Ohio State all go undefeated. You'd really put in Ohio State (especially with their schedule, which, at the moment, features no teams that will be really any good) and ND over Bama just because of that game Bama has scheduled, despite the high likelihood that Bama will be better than both teams? Wow, then CFB needs a playoff more than ever. If such a matchup happened under that scenario, the 2 best teams wouldn't really be playing for it all (especially OSU). But disqualified? Really?

 

[Rhode Irish]

Totally respect your opinion, but could not disagree more. That wouldn't be because Bama won by 4TD's without breaking a sweat in the NCG last year against ND, of all teams, would it? No doubt that game is pathetic. It is, and any Bama fan that says it isn't is clueless. Keep in mind that not many teams (yes, there are some) face 2 teams on their schedule with the quality of A&M and LSU. But say Bama, ND, and Ohio State all go undefeated. You'd really put in Ohio State (especially with their schedule, which, at the moment, features no teams that will be really any good) and ND over Bama just because of that game Bama has scheduled, despite the high likelihood that Bama will be better than both teams? Wow, then CFB needs a playoff more than ever. If such a matchup happened under that scenario, the 2 best teams wouldn't really be playing for it all (especially OSU). But disqualified? Really?

Have to agree. While it is shameful to schedule some of these patsy schools, playing one of them doesn't mean you can't be the best team in the country.

 

[RammerJammer91]

Meant to say a "matchup" when referring to the Ohio State-ND matchup in the scenario that I provided. Notre Dame certainly can, and I think they will have the opportunity, to be one of the top 2 teams, but I just don't think OSU truly will be. And take out Bama. Oregon could be one of the 2 best teams and they could get shafted based upon what the OP provided.

 

[IrishinTN]

In all honesty, I don't think the D1 teams usually request these games. It is normally the other team who wants some revenue. They know they'll get killed, but it helps them in different ways. Like Austin-Peay...did anyone even know they had a football team until Tennessee scheduled them? And Peay schedules it just to get their name in the limelight for one week here in Tennessee.

 

[WestCoast]

Have to agree. While it is shameful to schedule some of these patsy schools, playing one of them doesn't mean you can't be the best team in the country.

No one is saying a team that plays an FCS team cannot be the "best" (subjective) team in the country. But that is not the point of these types of articles.

The point of articles like these is there should be some uniformity in scheduling CFB. The purpose of uniformity is to help determine who exactly is deserving ("best" - objective) of the opportunity to participate in the NCG (or in a couple years the playoff).

While many people think (or claim) the point of the playoff or NCG is to find the "best" team, it is not, not in the subjective sense of the word "best." The point of the playoff or NCG should be to reward teams that won the most games against the toughest competition, determined by a uniform standard of competition.

People can disagree, but that is the point of the arguments against scheduling weak teams.

 

[T Town Tommy]

This should all become a moot point as we move into the pseudo playoff system where SOS has a factor in determining participants.

 

[NDWorld247]

Totally respect your opinion, but could not disagree more. That wouldn't be because Bama won by 4TD's without breaking a sweat in the NCG last year against ND, of all teams, would it? No doubt that game is pathetic. It is, and any Bama fan that says it isn't is clueless. Keep in mind that not many teams (yes, there are some) face 2 teams on their schedule with the quality of A&M and LSU. But say Bama, ND, and Ohio State all go undefeated. You'd really put in Ohio State (especially with their schedule, which, at the moment, features no teams that will be really any good) and ND over Bama just because of that game Bama has scheduled, despite the high likelihood that Bama will be better than both teams? Wow, then CFB needs a playoff more than ever. If such a matchup happened under that scenario, the 2 best teams wouldn't really be playing for it all (especially OSU). But disqualified? Really?

The OP was clearly said in jest, not to be taken literally. But using your example, ND would likely be the one left outside looking in. The system is clearly broke. I'm pleased it's moving in a fairer direction with the playoff.

 

[Irishnuke]

The only reason I don't want ND playing an FCS team is because they never have. We play a brutal schedule every year. It'd be nice to beat up on a patsy every now and then. I guess that's what Tulsa and Navy are for...

 

[ACamp1900]

If you are the best team in the country you shouldn't have to schedule cupcakes like that....

 

[Rhode Irish]

No one is saying a team that plays an FCS team cannot be the "best" (subjective) team in the country. But that is not the point of these types of articles.

The point of articles like these is there should be some uniformity in scheduling CFB. The purpose of uniformity is to help determine who exactly is deserving ("best" - objective) of the opportunity to participate in the NCG (or in a couple years the playoff).

While many people think (or claim) the point of the playoff or NCG is to find the "best" team, it is not, not in the subjective sense of the word "best." The point of the playoff or NCG should be to reward teams that won the most games against the toughest competition, determined by a uniform standard of competition.

People can disagree, but that is the point of the arguments against scheduling weak teams.

Understood, and I don't disagree. I was just responding to the idea that a team plays a FCS school should be ineligible to play for the championship. If they institute uniform scheduling its not like teams just go off and play FCS teams anyways.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

In all honesty, I don't think the D1 teams usually request these games. It is normally the other team who wants some revenue. They know they'll get killed, but it helps them in different ways. Like Austin-Peay...did anyone even know they had a football team until Tennessee scheduled them? And Peay schedules it just to get their name in the limelight for one week here in Tennessee.

Let them play the MAC schools.

 

[phork]

You shouldn't be in the discussion for a BCS bowl game or for the playoff if you have a D1AA on your schedule. Those games should count as losses when looking at a group of teams deciding who goes where. I have much more respect for say an ND that goes 10-2 with that murderers row schedule than an SEC team with 2 D1AA teams on their list.

 

[IrishinTN]

Let them play the MAC schools.

The problem is MAC teams don't have stadiums that seat 100,000 people. I am not "in favor" of these powerhouses putting them on their schedule, but I do understand the D1AA teams thought process behind it. And I am also glad ND doesn't do it. As previously stated, I think these types of scheduling things will also go away in the near future.

 

[DillonHall]

As far as I'm concerned, SEC teams can schedule whoever they want out of conference.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

The problem is MAC teams don't have stadiums that seat 100,000 people. I am not "in favor" of these powerhouses putting them on their schedule, but I do understand the D1AA teams thought process behind it. And I am also glad ND doesn't do it. As previously stated, I think these types of scheduling things will also go away in the near future.

I totally agree. I was just saying that the "big time" schools shouldn't be allowed to play these teams.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

As far as I'm concerned, SEC teams can schedule whoever they want out of conference.

Why?

 

[ACamp1900]

As far as I'm concerned, SEC teams can schedule whoever they want out of conference.

Because they don't schedule their own teams IN conference???....

 

[kmoose]

Totally respect your opinion, but could not disagree more. That wouldn't be because Bama won by 4TD's without breaking a sweat in the NCG last year against ND, of all teams, would it? No doubt that game is pathetic. It is, and any Bama fan that says it isn't is clueless. Keep in mind that not many teams (yes, there are some) face 2 teams on their schedule with the quality of A&M and LSU. But say Bama, ND, and Ohio State all go undefeated. You'd really put in Ohio State (especially with their schedule, which, at the moment, features no teams that will be really any good) and ND over Bama just because of that game Bama has scheduled, despite the high likelihood that Bama will be better than both teams? Wow, then CFB needs a playoff more than ever. If such a matchup happened under that scenario, the 2 best teams wouldn't really be playing for it all (especially OSU). But disqualified? Really?

You're missing the point...

If a team is ineligible for a BCS bowl when there is a matchup like these on their schedule? There will be no more matchups like these. And that has nothing to do with Bama's win over ND. If I were going to single out any team on this list, it would be Oregon. Oregon has a history of scheduling easy wins. Then, when the BCS format first came out, and quality wins were a component, the Ducks started scheduling the likes of Michigan and Oklahoma. In the meantime, the PAC-10 was the conference most loudly decrying the Quality Win component. As soon as it was dropped from the formula, the big time programs on Oregon's OOC schedule mostly fell off of the map, as well. I want great matchups......... they are good for college football as a whole. I want Alabama v. Ohio State, or Alabama v. USC, in the regular season.

 

[no.1IrishFan]

I think the big boys should be limited to scheduling one FCS team per year. It does nothing but ruin what could have been a competitive, meaningful game for the fans and players alike. I couldn't care less about these small schools trying to make a quick buck. 99.99% of the time it's just an absolute embarrassment for the players trying to keep up with athletes who are on a different level athletically.

 

[DillonHall]

Why?

Because they play in the best conference in the country. They need to compensate for the difficult conference schedule. I have absolutely no problem with that. The object is to win championships, not entertain football fans.

 

[no.1IrishFan]

Because they play in the best conference in the country. They need to compensate for the difficult conference schedule. I have absolutely no problem with that. The object is to win championships, not entertain football fans.

I don't blame the institutions for taking advantage of the way the system is set up, I blame the NCAA for allowing it in the first place.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Because they play in the best conference in the country. They need to compensate for the difficult conference schedule. I have absolutely no problem with that. The object is to win championships, not entertain football fans.

The teams don't all play each other every year. There are some perennial losers in the conference just like every other conference. There is NO excuse for playing DI-AA schools. Period. The non-conference scheduling is shameful.

 

[md_bennett]

Just to put another spin on the scheduling I was reading a BR (insert jokes here) article that suggested teams are doing this to overcome the suspensions that players have. While I wouldn't normally agree with such logic, it does kind of make sense from a personnel perspective. How many teams come into the year with 3-4 key players out a couple games. You certainly don't want that with an opponent that could really compete and end your championship hopes. The article suggested all players be suspended starting in conference play to defeat this practice. Not saying it's the ONLY reason but could play a bigger role than we think.

 

[DillonHall]

The teams don't all play each other every year. There are some perennial losers in the conference just like every other conference. There is NO excuse for playing DI-AA schools. Period. The non-conference scheduling is shameful.

Again, the object is to win a championship. Blame the NCAA, not the school that takes advantage of the rules.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Again, the object is to win a championship. Blame the NCAA, not the school that takes advantage of the rules.

These games just shouldn't be allowed. I pray the new playoff strongly considers strength of schedule.

 

[DillonHall]

These games just shouldn't be allowed. I pray the new playoff strongly considers strength of schedule.

Yeah, the NCAA says that SOS will matter, but I doubt it. I think it's inevitable that they'll rely more on the "eyeball" test. I'm still skeptical about how much of an influence SOS will have. I still have a difficult believing that 10-2 would beat out 11-1 (especially if the 11-1 team is from the SEC)

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Yeah, the NCAA says that SOS will matter, but I doubt it. I think it's inevitable that they'll rely more on the "eyeball" test. I'm still skeptical about how much of an influence SOS will have. I still have a difficult believing that 10-2 would beat out 11-1 (especially if the 10-2 team is from the SEC)

You're probably right