Sep 17 | Michigan State

[Circa]

They are just more physical and execute better on us both sides of the ball. Sad to see, but true. Then we shoot ourselves in the foot over an over. Don't get a pick on a bad ball-they get a td, we fumble to kill a drive, we hold on a kick return for a TD, and on. Now they flat out dominate us at the end of the half. The poster who said people don't have a clue if you don't think we are better team, maybe they have to take those words back. MSU is now playing better on offense, defense, and special teams (2pt conversion). They are better in every phase. We have to now regroup.

I would say your a member of the BT group. You're not watching the same game! Get your Big ten goggles off

 

[arrowryan]

I'm tired of the defense letting below average players look like early round draft picks. Cajuste last year and now RJ Shelton so far this year.

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

No talent on D? Daelin Hayes looks pretty dang good.

 

[Circa]

pkt, I agree they are holding. But, the issue is that we are pushed around on both sides. It has nothing to do with holding.

Yes, I agree we are getting hosed with calls. We always do. Weak teams use that as excuses. Overcome

Make our own luck. But, BVG is here. That is the true issue.

We haven't hardly been pushed at all! Show me which play your talking about and I'll shut up!

 

[Cackalacky]

 

[Dizzyphil]

Whole second half to adjust. Offense need to get it in gear

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

Circa, look at every running play. No push and pushed back. I don't know what game you are watching. And very little pass rush. No push in the back field. The whole last drive we were getting pushed back. Now, that wasn't happening as much in the beginning. Man. shamrock colored glasses.

 

[dang227]

Sep 17 | Michigan State

I may take crap for this but that last drive looked like the defense quit. Not blaming the players. That is what happens when you don't have any confidence in the coordinator. Not sure where the leadership will come from on this team. I hope I am wrong.

 

[ShawneeIrish]

We have more talent. MSU has far superior coaching.

 

[arrowryan]

Circa, look at every running play. No push and pushed back. I don't know what game you are watching. And very little pass rush. No push in the back field. The whole last drive we were getting pushed back. Now, that wasn't happening as much in the beginning. Man. shamrock colored glasses.

They're averaging 3.2 yards a rush. That's not getting pushed off the ball

 

[BGIF]

I want the numbers for our defense against the opponents offense on 3rd down. I'm sure that the offenses success percent is really high.

11-30 36.7%

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

I don't think they gave up. I think the push and will of MSU is greater. And the kids are put into correct areas, BVG defense for 3 years has been bad. It is what it is.

 

[NDinBoston]

I want the numbers for our defense against the opponents offense on 3rd down. I'm sure that the offenses success percent is really high.

Through the first 2 games, 11 conversions on 30 attempts for 36.67% (#65). Alabama is 10 for 34 for 29% (#33). Last year ND was 35% (#34).

 

[Luckylucci]

They're averaging 3.2 yards a rush. That's not getting pushed off the ball

No you are absolutely correct, and that's the crux of the entire situation. We should be winning. However, yet again, we make stupid mistakes and basically give the game to them. How long before "executing better" is on the coaches. In all facets of the game.

 

[Irishcop]

I don't want to say the defense quit, I think they are just tired. Thanks to special teams and the offense only having like 25 plays, I think the D is just tired.

 

[Graybeard52]

The defense and offense both look stagnant.

 

[arrowryan]

No you are absolutely correct, and that's the crux of the entire situation. We should be winning. However, yet again, we make stupid mistakes and basically give the game to them. How long before "executing better" is on the coaches. In all facets of the game.

We're losing because Boykin can't hear anything, Cole Luke got embarrassed by an 18 year old, and Sanders can't hold onto the ball. The coaches can only do so much.

 

[dang227]

I seriously want to punch Flutie in his midget fvcking face

 

[NDokie13]

McGlinchey looked a fool in those highlights.

 

[Circa]

Circa, look at every running play. No push and pushed back. I don't know what game you are watching. And very little pass rush. No push in the back field. The whole last drive we were getting pushed back. Now, that wasn't happening as much in the beginning. Man. shamrock colored glasses.

Honest to god! I just want these kids to be on a fair playing field! We dominated them and we are getting hosed!

 

[BGIF]

Halftime MSU 15 ND 7

Halftime MSU 15 ND 7

Matchup MSU ND
1ST DNS 11 9
Rushing 3 3
Passing 8 5
Penalty 0 1
3RD CONV 4-9 1-4
4TH CONV 1-1 0-0
PUNTS - AVG 3-36.7 3-54.3
RETURN YARDS 13 65
Punts - Returns 0-0 1-0
Kickoffs - Returns 1-13 2-35
Int - Returns 0-0 1-30
PENALTIES - YARDS 1-15 2-21
FUMBLES - LOST 0-0 2-2
TOTAL NET YARDS 231 178
Total Plays 38 25
Average Gain 6.1 7.1
NET YDS RUSHING 70 52
Rushes 22 15
Rushes - Avg 3.2 3.5
NET YARDS PASSING 161 126
Comp. - Att. 12-16 7-10
Yards Per Pass 10.1 11.5
Sacked - Yards Lost 0-0 1-0
Interceptions Thrown 1 0
TOUCHDOWNS 2 1
Rushing Touchdowns 0 1
Passing Touchdowns 2 0
Other 0 0
EXTRA POINTS 2-2 1-1
Kicking 1-1 1-1
FIELD GOALS 0-0 0-0
SAFETIES 0 0
Possession 18:01 11:59

 

[pkt77242]

We're losing because Boykin can't hear anything, Cole Luke got embarrassed by an 18 year old, and Sanders can't hold onto the ball. The coaches can only do so much.

When was Luke embarrassed? Yes the MSU player took the ball from him but that isn't being embarrassed, he had perfect coverage on the play.

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

Dang, yet another Boston College guy as a Notre Dame announcer. Just sucks. The only thing I can agree with him is that our offensive line can't handle their dline. That is obvious with 7 points and no running game.

 

[mgriff]

Three huge mistakes are the only reasons we are losing. Overall we are playing better. The punt, deep pass, and fumble. Those three events are why we are losing. It's so god damn disappointing.

 

[arrowryan]

When was Luke embarrassed? Yes the MSU player took the ball from him but that isn't being embarrassed, he had perfect coverage on the play.

Thats kinda my point. He had perfect coverage, let the ball go through his hands, and Corley basically wanted the ball more. Just not a good play for Luke

 

[Circa]

When was Luke embarrassed? Yes the MSU player took the ball from him but that isn't being embarrassed, he had perfect coverage on the play.

It was a GREAT catch!

 

[BGIF]

MICHST Players OFFENSE

PASSING CP/ATT YDS TD INT
T. O'Connor 12/16 161 2 1
RUSHING ATT YDS TD LG
L. Scott 10 30 0 13
T. O'Connor 7 27 0 6
G. Holmes 2 4 0 5
R. Shelton 1 4 0 0
P. Line 1 3 0 3
D. Terry 1 2 0 2
RECEIVING REC YDS TD LG
D. Corley 3 60 1 38
R. Shelton 4 38 1 16
M. Madaris 1 33 0 33
J. Price 2 24 0 23
P. Line 1 3 0 3
L. Scott 1 3 0 3

ND Players OFFENSE

PASSING CP/ATT YDS TD INT
D. Kizer 8/12 128 0 0
RUSHING ATT YDS TD LG
J. Adams 7 24 0 7
D. Kizer 5 15 1 14
T. Folston 3 13 0 9
RECEIVING REC YDS TD LG
E. St. Brown 1 48 0 48
T. Hunter Jr. 2 29 0 19
K. Stepherson 1 23 0 23
C. Sanders 1 19 0 19
C. Holmes 1 9 0 9
J. Adams 2 0 0 2

 

[BGIF]

It's very loud down on the field.

NBC

There's the problem. ND players are used to noise.

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

We dominated them? Are you kidding? No way. Dominated?????? They just marched down our throat. No domination by us.

 

[dang227]

Big Game Bob taking it up the ass again. Which is the worst pairing? The Stoop brothers in college or the Ryan brothers in the NFL?