Scholarship Numbers

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Since Oversigning is not really appropriate anymore, scholarship numbers seems is a more accurate name of a thread. Here are some other football sites that acccurately assess their schools numbers in a timely manner throughout the year.

Feel free to post any information on any of these, including your favorite links to ND roster/scholarship numbers.

Clemson Football Scholarship Breakdown

Florida State football scholarship roster by year

Michigan Depth Chart by Class

USC Scholarship Distribution Chart

Ohio State and Alabama as well as the other SEC schools do not have scholarship roster numbers/class breakdown/transfers until prior to fall practice.

 

[Legacy]

Tennessee Scholarship Numbers

Tennessee Scholarship Numbers

Despite enrolling eighty-two recruits from just the last three ('14 (32), '15 (28) and '16 (22)) classes, Tennessee went into the 2016 football season with eighty scholarship players, including two late recruits (in July) to the 2016 class and two walkon players that were given scholarships.

Tennessee - with further attrition during the season - now has seventy-seven scholarship players. Preston Williams (4* WR) left the team. Danny O'Brien (4* fifth year senior, DT) was dismissed. Jalen Hurd (4* RB and their top RB) transferred.

Tennessee has ten Seniors and has one Junior expected to enter the draft, giving them a baseline scholarship count of sixty-six for 2017. The Class of 2017 verbal commitment total is twenty-six, which would give them ninety-two players on scholarship. Only one of the five redshirt Juniors eligible for a fifth year is not a starter.

Class of 2017
The talented 2017 in-state recruits have long been anticipated to join the Vols and boost their talent and depth. Of the state's top eleven 2017 recruits, three are five stars and eight are four stars. Tennessee has ended up with only two (#4 Maleik Gray, S and #5 Ty Chandler, RB). Seven others have committed elsewhere. Four committed to Clemson, while one each committed to LSU, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Memphis. The only '17 top ten recruit from Tennessee who is still uncommitted is Trey Smith, OT (5*, State #2).

Clemson took their top QB, their only two WRs and only RB in the Class of 2017 from the state of Tennessee.

SEC recruiting rules would allow Tennessee to take a class of twenty-six, since they signed twenty-four last year - unless their total scholarship count drops below eighty-five. Attrition will probably not put the Vols below eighty-five prior to NSD. Only then could Tennessee take a class greater than twenty-six. Butch Jones performs his roster management with attrition announcements prior to National Signing Day.

So, as NSD approaches, there will be pressure on the current 2017 class verbals with higher-ranked targets committing as well as the total scholarship numbers and fills needs with higher ranked recruits.

 

[Legacy]

Florida Scholarship Numbers

Florida Scholarship Numbers

Florida's recruiting classes for the last three years have totaled sixty-eight enrolled recruits (Four did not qualify). Florida despite being in a sweet spot for recruiting struggles to have a full roster of eighty-five scholarship players, though they have had smaller recruiting classes than most.

Notre Dame also had sixty-eight enrolled recruits over the last three classes - but Florida has a much higher rate of attrition.

Since the end of the '15 regular season, Florida has had five transfers, five players enter the NFL draft early, one player who quit football and one graduate transfer in.

Currently, Florida has given out scholarships to five walkons and yet despite that has eighty-two players on scholarship.

2017 Recruiting Class
Florida has nine graduating Seniors, three Juniors with walkon scholarships who are not on their two deep chart, three scholarships short of eighty-five, and three players (Brantley, Tabor, Wilson) expected to declare for the NFL draft. (Alex Anzalone may declare, but suffered a broken arm in early November.) Eighteen scholarships available. Nineteen with Anzalone. Four players from the 2014 recruiting class (all redshirts) are not even listed on the depth chart at their positions and another is listed as third string. So, if those five move on for playing time elsewhere, Florida could have twenty-four scholarships available - prior to any other attrition.

Florida currently has sixteen verbal commits with two are considered early enrollees. Florida signed a class of twenty-two last year. With further attrition and three early enrollees, Florida could take a class of twenty-eight - but has quite a way to go. Without that pressure to cut to eighty-five, if they do not sign that many, those players not on the depth chart could have the choice to stay and finish out their career there, getting a Florida degree.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Florida's recruiting classes for the last three years have totaled sixty-eight enrolled recruits (Four did not qualify). Florida despite being in a sweet spot for recruiting struggles to have a full roster of eighty-five scholarship players, though they have had smaller recruiting classes than most.

Notre Dame also had sixty-eight enrolled recruits over the last three classes - but Florida has a much higher rate of attrition.

Since the end of the '15 regular season, Florida has had five transfers, five players enter the NFL draft early, one player who quit football and one graduate transfer in.

Currently, Florida has given out scholarships to five walkons and yet despite that has eighty-two players on scholarship.

2017 Recruiting Class
Florida has nine graduating Seniors, three Juniors with walkon scholarships who are not on their two deep chart, three scholarships short of eighty-five, and three players (Brantley, Tabor, Wilson) expected to declare for the NFL draft. (Alex Anzalone may declare, but suffered a broken arm in early November.) Eighteen scholarships available. Nineteen with Anzalone. Four players from the 2014 recruiting class (all redshirts) are not even listed on the depth chart at their positions and another is listed as third string. So, if those five move on for playing time elsewhere, Florida could have twenty-four scholarships available - prior to any other attrition.

Florida currently has sixteen verbal commits with two are considered early enrollees. Florida signed a class of twenty-two last year. With further attrition and three early enrollees, Florida could take a class of twenty-eight - but has quite a way to go. Without that pressure to cut to eighty-five, if they do not sign that many, those players not on the depth chart could have the choice to stay and finish out their career there, getting a Florida degree.

Florida and Vandy are the only schools in the SEC that give a damn about academics.


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[Legacy]

Georgia Scholarship Numbers

Georgia Scholarship Numbers

Georgia is in one of the sweet spots in recruiting in the South. Kirby Smart has so far put together the third ranked recruiting class for 2017. Only three of his sixteen commits are three stars. Georgia is in position to fill out all of their needs with remaining four or five star players. They won't catch Alabama or Ohio State, but otherwise have a recruiting class that is enviable.

With fifteen graduating seniors and five redshirt Juniors who are not on the two deep, Georgia could take a class of 22-25 depending on other attrition. Having taken only twenty-one in the 2016 class - and so far three of the 2017 class are early enrollees who will count towards 2016. Last year's attrition after the end of the regular season included four transfers out, two transfers in, two dismissals (from the class of '16), one to a medical, one not on the spring roster - net total seven.

Georgia's remaining targets include:
Name, Position, 247 position ranking, Ga Interest, Crystal Ball to Georgia

Tony Gray, OT (#24, Top 2, 100%)
Markaviest Bryant, DE (#13, Top 7, 100%)
Malik Herring, SDE (#5, Top 3, 95%)
Nate McBride, ILB (#1, Ga co-fav, 92%)
Jeremiah Holloman, WR, (#4, #19, Top 2, 92%) - Early Enrollee
Deangelo Gibbs, S (#3, Ga favorite, 84%)

With room, Georgia could add:
Monty Rice, ILB (#21, 90%) - Early Enrollee
Tyler Taylor, ILB (#12, top 3, 57%)

Georgia's Senior class next year should be in the 12-15 range. Graduating those numbers and taking in yearly class totals at or near twenty-five sure sounds like Alabama or Ohio State.

Add: Georgia has eighty-two scholarship players for 2016, which adds another three scholarships for 2017.

 

[BobbyMac]

Georgia is in one of the sweet spots in recruiting in the South. Kirby Smart has so far put together the third ranked recruiting class for 2017. Only three of his sixteen commits are three stars. Georgia is in position to fill out all of their needs with remaining four or five star players. They won't catch Alabama or Ohio State, but otherwise have a recruiting class that is enviable.

With fifteen graduating seniors and five redshirt Juniors who are not on the two deep, Georgia could take a class of 22-25 depending on other attrition. Having taken only twenty-one in the 2016 class - and so far three of the 2017 class are early enrollees who will count towards 2016. Last year's attrition after the end of the regular season included four transfers out, two transfers in, two dismissals (from the class of '16), one to a medical, one not on the spring roster - net total seven.

Georgia's remaining targets include:
Name, Position, 247 position ranking, Ga Interest, Crystal Ball to Georgia

Tony Gray, OT (#24, Top 2, 100%)
Markaviest Bryant, DE (#13, Top 7, 100%)
Malik Herring, SDE (#5, Top 3, 95%)
Nate McBride, ILB (#1, Ga co-fav, 92%)
Jeremiah Holloman, WR, (#4, #19, Top 2, 92%) - Early Enrollee
Deangelo Gibbs, S (#3, Ga favorite, 84%)

With room, Georgia could add:
Monty Rice, ILB (#21, 90%) - Early Enrollee
Tyler Taylor, ILB (#12, top 3, 57%)

Georgia's Senior class next year should be in the 12-15 range. Graduating those numbers and taking in yearly class totals at or near twenty-five sure sounds like Alabama or Ohio State.

Add:
Leonard Warner - LB
Aubrey Solomon - DT
Nicco Collins - WR (Mich = fav but Mansell & Adams put in recent CB's for UGA)
Eric Stokes CB

Watch:
Mark Webb - WR Sounds like he's not solid.

Could we see some southern fried Swensons?

 

[Legacy]

Texas Scholarship Numbers

Texas Scholarship Numbers

Tom Herman certainly is set up to succeed with his experience coaching and recruiting in Texas. Herman will be helped by Charlie Strong's recruiting who had two top ten recruiting classes in the past two years. Strong remade Texas's roster and the experience that underclassmen got under Strong should assist Herman's efforts.

Texas has eighty-three scholarship players with twelve Seniors. Only four of the Seniors are starters and five others are second string. Of those eighty-three, fifty-three are from the Classes '15 and '16. Nine of those fifty-three are starters in 2016 and ten more were second string. While only four from the Class of 2015 redshirted, Strong redshirted more from the Class of 2016 - fourteen of the twenty-nine.

Attrition, which was high after Strong took over, slowed last year with two transfers, one Early Entrant to the draft, and one to a medical scholarship (multiple injuries).

2017 Scholarship Class
With twelve Seniors and two extra scholarships short of eighty-five, Texas can start with fourteen scholarships for 2017. Strong typically would recruit hard after the regulars season, so the Class of 2017 has only seven verbal commitments. But, with the last two recruiting classes with large total recruits and attrition from previous classes, the Junior class has only thirteen scholarship players left. Eleven of those thirteen are true Juniors. Two Redshirt Juniors are not on the two deep, so they may be offered a fifth year. Seventeen of the Class of 2014 are left on scholarship out of twenty-three who enrolled with only one of the seventeen not on the two deep.

D'Onta Foreman, RB, may be an Early Entrant to the draft. Factoring in a small Senior class next year, Herman may be selective for the rest of his 2017 class.

2017 Remaining Targets
Marvin Wilson, DT and Walter Little, OT are top targets. Top players from Texas Jeffrey Okudah, Barron Browning, and Anthony Hines are probably out of reach with the last two poised to be early admissions. Houston three star verbal commits Mohammed Sanago, ILB, Matthew Huhn, OT are possibilities for following Herman to Texas. Other four star targets include K'lavon Chaisson, WDE, Bubba Bolden, S, Chevin Calloway, CB, and Levi Jones, OLB are possiblities but all have others as favorites and have not made OVs to Texas yet.

Texas should take a class around fifteen recruits this year.

 

[Legacy]

Alabama Scholarship Numbers

Alabama Scholarship Numbers

Overview
Alabama will sign 25 recruits once again. Consistency - Number of recruits enrolled per year - 26 ('09), 24 ('10), 24 ('11), 25 ('12), 25 ('13), 24 ('14), 24 ('15), 24 ('16). They will be down to 85 by the beginning of fall camp. Enough said? Nick Saban thinks so and is not shy about getting that message across.

Oversigning
So many of the oversigning issues that stereotyped Alabama in the past do not seem that applicable when discussing attrition.
Grayshirts - one in the last four classes
Medical scholarships - two in the Class of '13, none since
Sign and Place - four signees in the past four classes did not qualify

Attrition
By NSD this past Feb, five players had left - two to Early Entry for the Draft, one Graduate Transfer, two Undergrad transfers. By spring practice, there were two more - one RS Jr not on roster, one transfer - as well as one grad transfer in. Prior to fall camp, four undergraduate players transferred probably for playing time as well as one grad transfer, one from the Class of '16 and another from '16 did not qualify.

Saban found himself in the unusual position of being below eighty-five. Another player transferred after fall camp began. Saban gave out four scholarships to walkons in the fall. After one more player transferred during the season, Alabama is currently at eighty-four scholarship players. Only two players were Early Entrants to the Draft, also.

Unless a player chooses otherwise, has difficulty with academics or has an arrest that merits dismissal, Alabama recruits have, effectively, at least two-three year scholarships. Out of seventy enrollees from the Classes of 2014-16, sixty-two are still on scholarship (88%). The Class of 2014, which began with twenty-four enrollees still has twenty-two of those players on the roster (92%). Notre Dame's Class of 2014 began with twenty-three enrollees and has nineteen on the roster (82%).

2017 Recruiting Class Scholarships
Alabama will graduate seventeen Seniors and has three more scholarships including two of the four walkon scholarships and the one short of eighty-five. Twenty schlarships to give.

Potential Fifth Years and Early Entrants
From a high of five players declaring for the draft in '14, Alabama saw three declare in '15 and two last year. Twelve players remain from the Class of '13 (25 enrollees).

Five of those twelve are redshirt Juniors, including four who are starters (Foster, Stewart, Bozeman, Averette) as well as Cooper Bateman (2nd string QB). Bateman may well be a graduate transfer. Some undergrads may also transfer. Bozeman may get a fifth. The other three could leave for the NFL. True Junior Cam Robinson should declare early and Tony Brown is also a possibility. Some undergrads may also transfer.

Under SEC rules, Alabama would be restricted to twenty-five in 2017, though attrition could bring them below eighty-five. Saban could then sign more than twenty-five.

Currently, Alabama has twenty-three verbal commitments. Eleven of those intend on early admission. Nineteen are four stars or above. Of the other five, three verbals are from the state of Alabama and the other two are special teamers. Bama's class is officially on Decommitment Watch as they target more top recruits. The Tide has already had seven decommitments, though none since October.

2017 Remaining Targets
At this point, Defensive Line and Safety are the positions of need while they may take another Wide Receiver or two. Rankings per 247.
Targets for DL include (Verbals - One DT, no DEs):
Joshua Kaindoh #2 SDE, Top 4, HNV (has not visited - officially)
LaBryan Ray #3 SDE Top 2, Ala fav

Teair Tart-Spencer, #1 DT, fr prep, Top 3, HNV
Elijah Conliffe, #15 DT, Ala fav

Jarez Parks #3 WDE, Top 3, Ala fav (probably OLB, though they have four verbal commitments)

Recruits ranking Alabama, but have others as favorites
Malik Herring #5 SDE, Top 3, Ga fav
Ryan Johnson #7 SDE, Top 2, Aub fav (fr Ala)
Aubrey Soloman, #3 DT, Top 3, Ga fav (Ala visit)
Phidarian Mathis #13 DT, Top 2, LSU fav

Wide Receiver Targets (Two current verbal commitments)
Devonta Smith, #9 WR - Ala fav
Henry Ruggs, #28 WR, Ala fav

Safety (No verbals)
All targets have others as favorites
DeAngelo Gibbs #3 S - Ga fav
Devon Hunter #4 S - Va Tech fav
Todd Harris #10 S - Top 3, LSU fav

Offensive Line (five verbals)
Trey Smith #5 OT - Tenn Fav
Isaiah Wilson #7 OT, Mich fav

Inside Linebacker
Nate McBride #1 ILB, HNV, Ga fav

All these targets are four or five stars. Most are in the top ten at their position.

Best guess would be that Alabama would like to sign three DEs, one more DT, a WR and possibly a DB or Athlete that can play Safety.

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

I think bk will have to scramble and take some 2 stars because the many holes we will have with so many decommits, transfers, and NFL. Soooo many

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Scholarship Numbers

He just needs to take a page out of Weis's book and tell recruits, "you can play right away, have you seen that pile of shit over there?"

 

[Legacy]

Comparison of the 2014 Classes - Ohio State, Alabama, Notre Dame

Comparison of the 2014 Classes - Ohio State, Alabama, Notre Dame

These stats cover scholarship numbers from the end of the regular season for each of these teams. All teams have had the same coaches over the past three years and have had no changes to their conference's scholarship rules over that time period. In that way, coaching changes like Michigan that significantly impact rosters and the Class of 2014 are not included.

Ohio State - 23 signees, 23 enrollees; Class ranking #3, Still on scholarship - 20 (87%), Early Enrollees - 7
--- Attrition (3) - Dylan Thompson (ineligible-acad for ‘16, injuries), Marcelys Jones (transfer to Kentucky, dismissed from Kty two months later); Kyle Berger (med, tearing ACL multiple times)
--- Present makeup - 9 starters, five are possible EEs NFL, seven 2nd string, three on injuries, one 3rd string


Alabama - 26 singees, 24 enrollees; Class ranking #1; Still on scholarship - 20 + one walkon to schol, three JUCOs graduated (100% of enrollees, 92% of signees), Early enrollees - 8
---- Attrition from enrollees (0)
---- Two signees did not qualify (Montel McBride, Bo Scarbrough); three JUCOs graduated, one from prep graduated (4);
---- Present Makeup - Six starters, four are possible EEs to NFL draft, nine 2nd string, two injury list, 2 third string
---- One addition, walkon to scholarship (Levi Wallace, 3rd string)


Notre Dame - 23 signees, 22 enrollees; Class Ranking #11, Still on scholarship - 19 + one walkon to schol, (86% of enrollees, 83% of signees). Early enrollees - 2
---- Attrition from enrollees (3) -- transfers -- (Jhonathan Williams, Kolin Hill, Grant Blankenship)
----- Signee that did not enroll (Nyle Sykes)
----- One addition, walkon to scholarship (Montgomery Van Gorder)
----- Present Makeup - Eight starters, five 2nd string, five not listed on two deep (Brent, Byrnes, J. Hayes, Mokwuah, Luatua); one on injury list (Watkins)

Alabama's stats may alter or change a stereotype. Ohio State's number of starters from 2014 may be the impact from number of players in the previous class that went to the NFL. Alabama's lesser number of starters may be due to lesser Early Entrants, but also indicates the depth of their team with second stringers from the Class of 2014 ready to step in next year.

For Notre Dame's Class of 2014, some misses were compensated for by the Class of 2015. RB - Brent ('14), Adams and Dexter Williams ('15); Luatua and Weisher ('14), Alize Jones ('15). Some misses at positions were significant and not totally compensated for in the '15 Class - Defensive Line ('14 - Williams, Blankenship, Mokwuah, Hayes; '15 - Wallace, Tiassum).

 

[Legacy]

Michigan Scholarship Numbers

Michigan Scholarship Numbers

We are officially on decommitment watch. Harbaugh. Meritocracy. No one has a spot until Signing Day..... Get ready commitment announcements and questions about who will be "decommiting" will start this week.

2017 Recruiting Class Scholarships
Despite signing a '16 class of twenty-eight and having eleven "decommitments", Harbaugh got under eighty-five with six Grad Transfers and two undergrad transfers. One of the class of '16 did not qualify, one of the class transferred after an "indefinite suspension" and another signee opted for prep. By the start of the season, Michigan was at eighty-four scholarship players including four walkons that were given scholarships.

With a graduating Senior class of twenty-two (including the walkon scholarship players) and the one extra scholarship short of eighty-five and before attrition, Michigan could take twenty-three. One Senior has already announced he will be a Graduate Transfer, so Michigan is at a minimum of twenty-four scholarships for 2017.

For 2017, Michigan has twenty-two verbal commitments. Two from last year's class - Brad Hawkins, WR and Dytarius Johnson, ILB - who both needed to go to prep school have announced they will be entering with this class.

Upcoming Announcements, Filling Out the Rest of the Class
Four players will announce over the week - two WRs - Tarik Black, Donovan Peoples-Jones, and two OL - Cesar Ruiz, #1 OC and Isaiah Wilson, #7 OT. The first three have had Michigan as heavy favorites. The competition for Wilson is Alabama, but Michigan is favored.

If all four announce for Michigan, three WRs will have verbaled and six OL recruits will have verbaled. The total class count would be twenty-six.

Further Targets
Harbaugh wants two Outside Linebackers - Jordan Anthony and Drew Singleton - to join the class. Michigan is favored for both. He also may not stop with six OLmen. He is in pursuit of Chuck Filiaga, #14 OT and Tederrall Slayton, #3 OG. Most recent CBs for Filiaga are to Michigan. Slayton may be down to Michigan and Florida State.

The two lowest ranked OL commits who are potential decommits are Andrew Stueber (#45 OT) and Joel Honingford (#46 OT).

Another remaining area of need is Defensive Tackle where Michigan would like to sign two. Deron Irving-Bey (SDE/DT) is more of a three technique, favors Michigan. Aubrey Solomon #3 DT, and Jay Tufele #4 DT are possibilities. Soloman decommited from Michigan, has taken four Official Visits and expected to go to Georgia. Tufele has Michigan in his top three with Ohio State and Utah. That may be an Ohio State-Michigan battle. Rutger Reitmaier, an Oregon commit since June, has made an Official Visit to Michigan.

Harbaugh would like to flip ND's Elijah Hicks and Alabama's Najee Harris.

Scholarship Math
Without attrition, Michigan has sixty scholarship players for 2017. With Black, Peoples-Jones, Ruiz, Wilson, Anthony, Singleton, Filiaga, Slayton and Irving-Bey, Harbaugh would add nine recruits to his current total of twenty-two. That puts Michigan at ninety-one scholarship players.

Jabrill Peppers will probably declare for the draft. Two RBs (Wyatt Shallman and Khalid Hill) from the Class of 2014 may not be offered a fifth year. At that point, Michigan is looking at either attrition in the Junior or Sophomore classes or further decommitments to make eighty-five. Malzone? Gentry? Higdon?

Is Harbaugh Sabaning? Or am I being too unkind to Saban?

 

[Andy in Sactown]

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[Legacy]

Stanford Recruiting Numbers

Stanford Recruiting Numbers

Stanford is always easy to calculate scholarship numbers going forward. If they have graduating Seniors, they are replaced. Minimal attrition. Some LDS signees either go on their mission or come back.

Stanford had eighty-one scholarship players last year. Ten Seniors graduate. McCaffery is headed to the NFL. Fifteen scholarships to give. Currently, eight verbal commitments.

Senior Class departures/Commits
QB - 0/1
RB - 1/1
FB - 0/0
WR - 2/1 (Need 1)
TE - 0/2
OT - 1/1
OG/OC - 1/1

DE - 2/0 (Need 2)
DT - 0/0
ILB - 1/0 (Need 1)
OLB - 0/0
CB - 0/0
S - 2/1 (Need 1)

Targets - Foster Sarell, OT; Ryan Johnson, SDE (Jan visit); Chaz Ah You, S (Jan visit); Dalyn Wade-Perry, DT (Stan fav) (Jan visit). Nate McBride or Leonard Warner would fill their ILB spot. No one coming back from a mission. Ah You may go on one.

They may end up around eighty scholarship players again.

 

[Legacy]

USC Scholarship Numbers

USC Scholarship Numbers

Counting the 2016 recruiting class, USC has been under 85 scholarships for five years and may reach maximum scholarships with the '17 class. USC signed twenty players in the '16 class, adding a graduate transfer, and carried over five players, who accepted a blueshirt, for a total of twenty-six. Despite all of those, USC gave four walkons scholarship and reached eighty-three scholarship players for the 2016 season. Two players in the '16 class accepted a blueshirt for '17.

Avaiable Scholarships
USC has fifteen graduating Seniors (including three of the walkon scholarship players) plus the two scholarship short of eighty-five. One player has taken a graduate transfer. They start with eighteen scholarships to give before attrition and after the three "decommitments". Two players - JuJu Smith and Adoree Jackson - are possible early entrants to the draft. If scholarships are in short supply, they could take the walkon scholarship left away.

2017 Scholarship Numbers
For the '17 class, USC has fifteen to eighteen available scholarships without any players transferring or other attrition reasons. After three three star players who had given verbals "decommitted", USC has sixteen verbal commitments, counting two blueshirts from '16, who all seem solid.

Their Targets seem to be:
One more WR with Joseph Lewis, a LA native, favoring USC (69% CBs)
An OT with Austin Jackson, favoring USC (75%)
Adding two DBs, Darnay Holmes, CB (USC in top 2 with Ohio St) and Bubba Bolden, S (also with USC in top 2 with Ohio State).
Defensive Line has the most need at this time. Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa, DE has USC in his Top 2 with Oregon; Terrance Lang has USC as his favorite; but
they would like to get Javon Kinlaw (USC in his Top 3) and Aubrey Solomon, DT (top 5). However, S. Carolina is favored with Kinlaw and Solomon has a favorite of Georgia, their respective home states.

 

[irishtrain]

This recruiting intrigue is a waste of time. Notre Dame has its slot and the deal is to develop 3 star guys. I've not seen very many 4/5 star guys that have come in and moved this program forward. Of course people will point out this guy or that guy but has any of these hot shots moved this program forward. The answer is no, Manti Teo was the last significant recruit at the university. These other guys are just marketing fodder for people to talk about. Recruit talk is a real sign that the program is in the dumpster when you have nothing to talk about but signs for the future.

 

[STLDomer]

This recruiting intrigue is a waste of time. Notre Dame has its slot and the deal is to develop 3 star guys. I've not seen very many 4/5 star guys that have come in and moved this program forward. Of course people will point out this guy or that guy but has any of these hot shots moved this program forward. The answer is no, Manti Teo was the last significant recruit at the university. These other guys are just marketing fodder for people to talk about. Recruit talk is a real sign that the program is in the dumpster when you have nothing to talk about but signs for the future.

 

[beryirish]

This recruiting intrigue is a waste of time. Notre Dame has its slot and the deal is to develop 3 star guys. I've not seen very many 4/5 star guys that have come in and moved this program forward. Of course people will point out this guy or that guy but has any of these hot shots moved this program forward. The answer is no, Manti Teo was the last significant recruit at the university. These other guys are just marketing fodder for people to talk about. Recruit talk is a real sign that the program is in the dumpster when you have nothing to talk about but signs for the future.

 

[Legacy]

Tennessee Signing and Scholarship Numbers

Tennessee Signing and Scholarship Numbers

Butch Jones took a rest in recruiting numbers last year, signing only twenty-four players (22 enrolled). Jones signed thirty (28 enrolled) in '15 and thirty-two in his first full year signing class in '14 (all enrolled).

Of those eighty-two enrolled from those three classes, sixty-two are still on the roster. Those twenty that left for various reasons came from the '14 and '15 classes - sixty total enrollees. (33% attrition)

Current Roster Distribution
Graduating Seniors - 10 (three starters)
Juniors - 24 (15 starters, includes two STs) - two players eligible for fifth years
Sophs - 19 (6 starters)

Despite such high numbers in previous Classes, due to attrition, Jones gave four walkons scholarships. (Two are Juniors and possibly have their scholarships renewed.)

Class of 2017
At this point, Tennessee has twenty-six verbal commitments with ten Seniors graduating.

Twelve players from the Class of '17 have decommited, most with their decommitment dates a few weeks or longer prior to another prospect commiting. For example, QB recruiting - Hunter Johnson decommited 12/14/15, went to Clemson; C.J. Lewis decommited on 11/22/16, commiting to BC. Current QB verbal is Will McBride, commiting on 12/13/16.

Targets
Unlike previous years, Tennessee does not have many high-ranking undecided recruits currently considering them. They have an outside chance at Cam Akers, RB and LaBryan Ray, DE. Malik Young, DT has them in his top 3, but has not made an official visit. Ryan Saxon, DE has them in his top three with Rutgers and Vandy, and will be taking a Jan OV. T.J. Moore, OT, is a current Florida verbal commit who will take a Jan OV.

Attrition
With sixty-seven scholarship players potentially returning next year and twenty-six verbal commitments from the '17 class, expect much more attrition from the Vols pressured by the signing class. (The O word?) They exceed eighty-five now by seven players.

Derek Barnett, DE and Alvin Kamara, RB may declare for the draft. After that... Austin Sanders, OG may not get a fifth year. Jakob Johnson and Charles Mosely (both Class of '14) are not listed on the two deep.

 

[Legacy]

Georgia Attrition and Scholarship Count

Georgia Attrition and Scholarship Count

Is Georgia running out of room at the inn?
All Kirby Smart wants for Christmas is you. And You. And you. But is there room under the tree for remaining recruits?

Four transfers - Juwuan Briscoe, Shaquery Wilson, Rico McGraw, Shaun McGee (due to academics)
Nick Chubb and Sony Michel are returning.

Potential transfers named:

Defensive Backs Kirby Choates and Jarvis Wilson have both been discussed in this light. Wilson has played in almost every game this season but never cracked the starting lineup and is credited with a solitary tackle in late duty against Louisiana-Lafayette. Choates has appeared in only three games this season after appearing in eleven as a true freshman in 2015.

With Georgia continuing to doggedly pursue defensive backs in recruiting, the unspoken truth may be that some guys in that meeting room now won’t be there come spring. Other names tossed around as potential transfers include linebacker Keyon Brown, who spent his redshirt sophomore season on the scout team, and guard Sam Madden, who hasn’t seen game action in two seasons in Athens. Shakenneth Williams has moved from receiver to defensive back and may or may not relish learning that new position at this point.

Junior defensive backs Aaron Davis and Dominick Sanders have not made their intentions regarding a return known, either.

Estimated Class Size - 23-25. Current verbal commitments - 20. National Ranking - 3

Georgia has a pretty good chance of adding Aubrey Soloman, DT; DeAngelo Gibbs, S; Markaviest Bryant, DE. Six uncommitted recruits (including Bryant) will be on Official Visits in January -- three CBs, two WDEs, and a WR

 

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Michigan Scholarship Numbers

Michigan Scholarship Numbers

At this point, Michigan has 59 returning players, with room for twenty-six in the Class of 2017, barring any attrition. (Twenty-six players graduated.)

The Classs of 2017 has twenty-seven verbal commitments. That puts Michigan at eighty-six. Most potential fifth-years have confirmed they are returning, except for Ty Isaac, RB. Additionally, Jabrill Peppers has not announced for the draft.

Five recruits are in play.
Tedarrell Slaton, OG - who also favors Fla State.
Nico Collins, WR - Top 3 with Georgia and Alabama (he is from Alabama)
Najee Harris, RB (current Alabama commit),
Jay Tufele, DT - Top 3 with Ohio State and Utah (CB to Ohio State)
Aubry Soloman, DT - Top 5 (CB to Georgia)

In short, Slaton is their best chance to commit.

Reportedly, Dytarius Johnson, who verballed to Michigan in '16 and then went to prep, has said he will enter Michigan, so that would be another scholarship.

With Chuck Filiaga's commitment today, OL is stressed on scholarships with six commitments, which would be more so if Slaton commits. However, Kai-Leon Herbert is taking Official Visits to Auburn, Miami and Florida, and Joel Honingford, who verballed to Michigan last June and is from Michigan, has not had an OV to Michigan. CBs are for Michigan State, in the case that Harbaugh pulls his offer.

 

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Briefly, here are the current number of scholarship players, scholarships to give, and verbal commitments, as of today. These also assume all fifth years for each team will get a scholarship.

Alabama and Ohio State are in one class. (2)
Ohio State - current scholarships- 73 with 12 to give. Verbal commitments-18. Total-91 (Article in OSU Scholarship Numbers Thread)

Alabama - current-65 with 20 to give, Verbal commitments-26. Total-91 (Announcements for Early Entrants for the NFL draft have not been made public yet.)

Others technically over 85 at this time. (5)
Florida State-current-71 with 14 to give. Verbal commitments-17. Total-88
Georgia- current-64 with 11 to give. Verbal commits-23. Total-87 (See article linked above)
Michigan-current-59 with 26 to give, Verbal commits-27. Total-86 (See above comment)
Clemson-current-73 with 12 to give. Verbal commits-13. Total-86
TCU-current-75 with 10 to give. Verbal commits-11. Total-86

(Notre Dame-current-69 with 16 to give. Verbal commitments-17. Total-86.)

Under 85 at this time. (5)
LSU-current-65 with 20 to give. Verbal commits-19. Total-84
Stanford-current-74 with 11 to give. Verbal commits-9. Total-83.
Texas-current-71 with 14 to give. Verbal commits-11. Total-82.
Florida-current-66 with 19 to give. Verbal commits-15. Total-80.
USC-current-61 with 24 to give. Verbal commits-17. Total-78.

Most returning scholarship players at this time:
TCU-75
Ohio State-73
Clemson-73
Florida State-71
Texas-71
Stanford-70
(Notre Dame-69)

These are selected teams (2 in Pac 12, 2 in Big 12, 2 in ACC, 2 in Big Ten, 4 in SEC). Florida State, Georgia, and Michigan may end up with numbers approaching ninety based on recruits' interest, continuing recruitment including visits scheduled and prior signing behavior. Obviously, the higher the total numbers, which includes announced (at this time) attrition, the greater pressure for less fifth years, undergrad transfers, other attrition and scholarships pulled for '17 class commits.

The Big Ten's take on oversigning, Part I (ESPN, 2011)

 

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Early Enrollees

Early Enrollees

Alabama (12)
Michigan (11)
Ohio State (9)
Georgia, Florida, LSU (6)
Tenn, Notre Dame (5)

 

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HUGE recruiting changes(not passed yet) coming from NCAA and will level the field for ND... Too much to try posting from phone but some highlights would nix being able to give jobs to parents.. Family etc of recruits..25 max every 365 days so no more processing them out

 

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HUGE recruiting changes(not passed yet) coming from NCAA and will level the field for ND... Too much to try posting from phone but some highlights would nix being able to give jobs to parents.. Family etc of recruits..25 max every 365 days so no more processing them out

I remember ISD explaining what would be proposed, but will it really be approved?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

 

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Alabama Scholarship Numbers

Alabama Scholarship Numbers

With a Senior class of seventeen, twelve early enrollees out of a current class of twenty-six verbals as well as continuing recruitments of top recruits for 2017's class, Alabama would seem to be sitting on pretty solid ground. They are, of course, though this class of fourteen unenrolled recruits may change quite a bit, especially in comparison to previous years.

Solid (6)
Mack Jones, QB - Kentucky decommit. With QB transfers and despite Tua Tagovailoa's commitment, Jones would be Alabama's third string QB.
Kendall Randolph, OT - at a position of need, from Alabama, no other Official Visits (OV)
Jedrick Wills, OT - same reason as Randolph, though Michigan would be backup
Daniel Wright, S - also at a position of need, from Florida, decommited from FSU. No Jan OVs scheduled.
Xavier McKinney, S - position of need, from Florida, decommitted FSU.
Vandarius Cowen, LB - has scheduled OVs to Ga, LSU, Ole Miss and Oregon

Solid w. consideration (2)
Hunter Brannon, OT - from Alabama, originally listed as Early Enrollee. Reason he did not?
Brian Robinson, RB - from Alabama, also originally listed as Early Enrollee, Reason?
(RB is stacked. Will either of these in-state recruits be offered a Grayshirt if the class fills up?)

Questions (4)
Christopher Allen, LB - from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, Impressed by recent visit by Ed Orgeron and scheduled an OV with LSU. OV to Alabama is 1/20
Akial Byers, DT - has not yet qualified. Alabama recruiting five other DTs hard. Aubrey Soloman has recently named Alabama as his leader.
Markail Benton, OLB - from Alabama, also considering Auburn. There are ten OLBs on Bama's roster. One more in the Class of '17 has already enrolled. Will there be room?
Kedrick James, TE - From Texas. Seven TEs are on the roster with another '17 commit who has enrolled. James' OV to Bama is 1/20.

Decommits (2)
Brandon Ruiz, K - from Texas. Saban has offered ST's grayshirts
Jhavonte Dean, CB - from Florida, has scheduled OVs with Miami and Arizona State. Has not scheduled OV to the Tide.

With increasing competition from new HCs Georgia, Florida and Miami and continued competition from FSU, both states may become more difficult.

Considering Numbers
Alabama signed twenty-five last year and can sign twenty-five this year, unless they drop below eighty-five total scholarship players, including signees. Alabama is among the favorites for three WRs, three DEs, and four DTs. They lost three WRs, three DEs, but no DTs. Will there be attrition at the DT spot?

Currently, Alabama has sixty-two scholarship players with the twelve early enrollees. With those seventy-four players, Alabama would have room for eleven.

 

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Alabama Commit Update

Alabama Commit Update

Brandon Ruiz, K decommits from Alabama. The second highly ranked K to decommit from Alabama in two years late in the recruiting cycle as scholarships tighten for the Tide. They will rely on Andy Pappanastos, an Alabama resident, who transferred last year from Ole Miss. Pappanastos grayshirted, then redshirted at Ole Miss, and in his career there made a total of eight PATs and missed his only field goal attempt in three seasons with the Rebels. Moved to Decommitted.

Vandarius Cowen, OLB, after a visit from Tosh Lupoi and Jeremy Pruitt, has canceled his OVs to Ga, LSU, Ole Miss and Oregon - and gotten an Alabama tatoo. Moved to Solid.

Christopher Allen, LB loved his visit to LSU last weekend. LSU is a close second and his hometown "dream school".

Alabama's '17 class size is twenty-five. At this point, Alabama has twenty-five commits (twelve are enrolled) and is concentrating on completing the Class with a WR, DE, DT and CB. At either DE or DT, they may take two more recruits.

 

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Scholarship Status Update

Scholarship Status Update

After draft declarations, transfer announcements, medicals, and commits and decommits up to this point, here's four teams cruising into NSD and their scholarship availability situations.

(Big Ten recruiting limits are 88 after NSD)
Michigan - 57 on the roster, 26 in the '17 class = 83. Looking for a DT (Soloman, Tufule), possibly one more WR (Martin), but has missed on an OG and anther CB. No Official Visits by recruits in January.

Ohio State - 68 on the roster, 19 commits = 87. Would add a DT (Tufule) and a WR, possibly another OL if room. Only three January Official Visits by uncommitted or committed elsewhere recruits

Clemson - 71 on the roster, 13 commits = 84. Would add a RB (Etienne). Only two January OVs - both by RBs. Three walkons with scholarships in 2016 are counted in the total of 84 for '17.

Stanford - 70 on the roster, 12 commits = 82. Only three January OVs by currently uncommitted recruits. Targeting SDE (Ryan Johnson), LB (Leonard Warner), S (Chaz Ah You) and Ath (Wedington). Three signees from the Class of '15 went on their two year missions and no word on their returns.

TCU, Texas, Florida State, USC and four SEC schools (Bama, LSU, Georgia, and Florida) are the most active at this time. Updates on the four non-SEC schools scholarship situations next, then the four SEC schools in the next couple of days.

(I keep track of two Pac12, two Big 10, two ACC, two B12, and four SEC schools scholarship counts.)

 

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Scholarship Status Update, Part 2

Scholarship Status Update, Part 2

These four schools have been very active with their '17 recruiting, considering scholarship numbers and OVs. Only USC at this point may fall short of 85 after NSD, barring further attrition. These finish off my non-SEC teams (2 each from the ACC, B10, B12, and Pac 12. See above for the others.)

USC - 58 scholarship players on the current roster for '17 with 18 verbals/enrollees = 76. They have room for many more, but the Pac 12 follows NCAA guidelines, limiting the class to 25. Two Blueshirt players from the '16 class are included in the total of 58, but count towards the '17 class. That means the '17 class is at twenty. Five spots left. Total will be 81 or less if more attrition. A big boost on their DL with Marlon Tuipulotu's commitment. USC would ideally add two WRs (Joseph Lewis, Greg Johnson), an OT (Austin Jackson), a DE (Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa or Javon Kinlaw), and a Safety (Isaiah Pola-Mao). They are in the top 2 with Josh Falo, TE. Aubry Soloman, DT, Jay Tufule, DT, and Javon Kinlaw, DE are possibilities. USC has had eleven January OVs from uncommitted or committed elsewhere.

TCU - 75 scholarship players on the current roster with thirteen commits/enrollees = 88. TCU will first try to hold one to all their commits while pursuing DL recruits (Phidarian Mathis, Corey Bethley) and S (Todd Harris and Elijah Walker) and an Ath (Michael Onyemaobi). Harris and Mathis have made TCU a favorite in their top 3, both with Alabama and LSU as their others. TCU has had eight OVs from uncommitted (4) and committed elsewhere (4) recruits.

Texas - 72 scholarship players with fifteen commits = 87. Texas has had eleven OVs in January with seven still uncommitted recruits and four committed elsewhere. Texas has had three verbals recently decommiting as three recruits verbaled elsewhere were flipped. They have four strong targets (Zabie, OT), Chaisson (DE), Guidry (CB) and Kary Vincent (CB) whom they would like to flip from LSU. So, there will be attrition/decommits soon, possible graduate transfers. Texas has a Senior class in '17 of thirteen players.

Florida State - 69 current scholarship players with twenty-two verbals/enrollees (after one recruit decommited today) = 91. With Alabama and Ohio State, FSU also pushed ninety players after NSD in '16. FSU is in great shape with two uncommitted recruits (Marvin Wilson, DT and Levi Jones, DE). Jarez Parks, WDE has FSU in his top 2 also. Three RBs are committed and all are ranked in the top ten RBs by 247. Two are in the top 4. FSU has had five January OVs by uncommitted recruits.

Four SEC schools (Alabama, LSU, Florida and Georgia) will be covered next.

 

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Alabama Scholarship Numbers

Alabama Scholarship Numbers

A quick note on scholarship updates for Bama's '17 class.

Twenty-five commits at this time. Twelve enrolled. Of the other thirteen, eight are solid and one more has been added. Two decommitted recently.

Solid (8)
Mack Jones, QB - Kentucky decommit. With QB transfers and despite Tua Tagovailoa's commitment, Jones would be Alabama's third string QB.
Kendall Randolph, OT - at a position of need, from Alabama, no other Official Visits (OV)
Jedrick Wills, OT - same reason as Randolph, though Michigan would be backup
Daniel Wright, S - also at a position of need, from Florida, decommited from FSU. No Jan OVs scheduled.
Xavier McKinney, S - position of need, from Florida, decommitted FSU.
Vandarius Cowen, LB - has scheduled OVs to Ga, LSU, Ole Miss and Oregon
Christopher Allen, LB - from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, Scheduled an OV with LSU. OV to Alabama is 1/20. Has shut down his recruitment and reaffirmed his Alabama commitment
Markail Benton, OLB - from Alabama, also considering Auburn. There are ten OLBs on Bama's roster. One more in the Class of '17 has already enrolled. Assurances given and has reaffirmed to Bama.

Commitment since last Update (1)
Joseph Bulovas, K - no mention of Grayshirt, assuming full scholarship

Questions (4)
Akial Byers, DT - has not yet qualified. Alabama recruiting five other DTs hard. Aubrey Soloman has recently named Alabama as his leader.
Kedrick James, TE - From Texas. Seven TEs are on the roster with another '17 commit who has enrolled. James' OV to Bama is 1/20.
Hunter Brannon, OT - from Alabama, originally listed as Early Enrollee. Reason he did not?
Brian Robinson, RB - from Alabama, also originally listed as Early Enrollee, Reason?
(RB is stacked. Will either of these in-state recruits be offered a Grayshirt if the class fills up?)

Decommits (2)
Brandon Ruiz, K - from Texas. Saban has offered ST's grayshirts
Jhavonte Dean, CB - from Florida, has scheduled OVs with Miami and Arizona State. Has not scheduled OV to the Tide.

Alabama graduated a Senior class of seventeen. Out of a current class of twenty-five, twenty-one are enrollees (12) or solid (9). At this time, Bama has sixty-two roster players on scholarship and the twenty-one enrollees/solid = eighty-three. Include all four in the "Questions" category and Alabama is at eighty-seven.

However, two of the current scholarship roster players were walkons prior (Jamie Mosley and Levi Wallace). Could they be pushed out? I imagine Saban will try to keep them on scholarship. Alabama would like to add two more DLmen, 1-2 WRs, and a DB.

Of note on the four in question:
Hunter Brannon was recently offered a scholarship by Lane Kiffin to FAU, has not had an OV to Bama nor a home visit with Saban, but has had a number of unofficial visits. (from Alabama)
The other three have had OVs to Bama. Brian Robinson has had a number of unofficial visits to Bama (from Tuscaloosa).
Akiel Byers was the only one of the three visited by Saban in addition to Billy Napier.