Russia Invades Ukraine

[Giddyup]

I am so sick of these liberal women and no T guys wanting to fight a war they won’t go to and not caring about corruption

 

[Irish#1]

Unfortunately it stopped, Moscow trump picked his side

It says paused not withdrawn. This is probably a step to get the mineral rights deal wrapped up or get Zelenskyy to the negotiating table.

 

[GATTACA!]

It says paused not withdrawn. This is probably a step to get the mineral rights deal wrapped up or get Zelenskyy to the negotiating table.

Trump also doesn't have the authority to do this anyways? Right? Purse strings lie with congress and all that.

This is exactly what got him impeached the first time around.

 

[calvegas04]

It says paused not withdrawn. This is probably a step to get the mineral rights deal wrapped up or get Zelenskyy to the negotiating table.

Zelensky came to sign the deal and then they jumped him in the Oval office.

 

[Irish#1]

Zelensky came to sign the deal and then they jumped him in the Oval office.

And it didn’t get signed.

 

[Irish#1]

Trump also doesn't have the authority to do this anyways? Right? Purse strings lie with congress and all that.

This is exactly what got him impeached the first time around.

You’re right about congress, but he may have the ability to pause it. I don’t know for sure. Him trying to cancel aid would be different.

Like Clinton, Impeached but not convicted, right?

 

[NDVirginia19]

lol Europe foreign policy summed up

 

[Sea Turtle]

lol Europe foreign policy summed up

Unfortunately, yes.

 

[Irish#1]

Absolutely not. That's why I put (lol) at the end of that sentence lol.

If neither side shows any gains, how long would you propose we continue sending weapons and money to Ukraine?

 

[TheProspector]

If neither side shows any gains, how long would you propose we continue sending weapons and money to Ukraine?

I, personally, would keep sending it as long as Ukraine wants to fight and Russia keeps bleeding and/or Putin catches a stray bullet/accidentally falls out of a 5 story building.

 

[drayer54]

Zelensky came to sign the deal and then they jumped him in the Oval office.

Are you on Zelensky’s staff or are you pretending to live through him?


Speaking of dishonest-

 

[ab2cmiller]

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

They already have 300k casualties with 120k being deaths. They’re tanking their own currency and are blowing through tremendous amounts of vehicles and ammunition. These will all have massive long term effects on the future of their country and IMO will cripple them as a viable threat to the US for a long period of time.

As long as Ukraine has the desire to fight and is asking for our help, excluding US troops on the ground, I don’t see a reason to stop.

“Never interrupt your opponent while he is in the middle of making a mistake”

Russian army alone has 1.5 million active duty. Putin isn't losing any sleep over 120k. When Russia is out of oil or nukes, they will be crippled. Anything less is a fantasy you've dreamed up.

"Never borrow billions of dollars to give to a foreign state to fund a war that isn't yours with no end in sight." --- me

 

[calvegas04]

Russian army alone has 1.5 million active duty. Putin isn't losing any sleep over 120k. When Russia is out of oil or nukes, they will be crippled. Anything less is a fantasy you've dreamed up.

"Never borrow billions of dollars to give to a foreign state to fund a war that isn't yours with no end in sight." --- me

It is 120k minimum dead likely much much more. The wounded will always be 3 or 4 times higher. Plus prisoners.

 

[NDVirginia19]

 

[NDVirginia19]

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[GATTACA!]

Russian army alone has 1.5 million active duty. Putin isn't losing any sleep over 120k. When Russia is out of oil or nukes, they will be crippled. Anything less is a fantasy you've dreamed up.

"Never borrow billions of dollars to give to a foreign state to fund a war that isn't yours with no end in sight." --- me

So they’ve lost 1/5 of their military? Unless they’re planning on deploying soldiers with 1 leg.

I’d be pretty concerned if the US lost that many men.

 

[NDVirginia19]

The Russians historically have a culture of withstanding that type of bloodletting that we don't really have the stomach for in the liberal West

 

[Bishop2b5]

So they’ve lost 1/5 of their military? Unless they’re planning on deploying soldiers with 1 leg.

I’d be pretty concerned if the US lost that many men.

Of course, but the Russians see that as normal and acceptable. If they achieve the desired end result, they aren't concerned with the loss of life it took to get there.

 

[GATTACA!]

Of course, but the Russians see that as normal and acceptable. If they achieve the desired end result, they aren't concerned with the loss of life it took to get there.

It doesn't matter if Putin cares. Losing 1/5 of your military personnel and rising is going to have long term ramifications.

 

[drayer54]

It doesn't matter if Putin cares. Losing 1/5 of your military personnel and rising is going to have long term ramifications.

Like what? His economy is afloat. He has more meat to feed the grinder. His alliances aren’t breaking. He can keep feeding the machine. Hell, he has Koreans walking in to die for him now.

 

[ab2cmiller]

 

[ab2cmiller]

Like what? His economy is afloat. He has more meat to feed the grinder. His alliances aren’t breaking. He can keep feeding the machine. Hell, he has Koreans walking in to die for him now.

In reality, Russia's economy is being kept afloat by the huge amount of money that's being spent on the war effort. It's possible that their economy will actually do worse once peace is achieved.

 

[Irish#1]

I, personally, would keep sending it as long as Ukraine wants to fight and Russia keeps bleeding and/or Putin catches a stray bullet/accidentally falls out of a 5 story building.

I would love to see Putin catch a stray bullet, but I don't think he's leaving until he passes naturally. I'll be surprised if Russia bleeds out. The demise of soldiers, equipment and supplies has been reported for a couple of years now, yet there they are.

For those of you that want to continue supplying Ukraine until Russia is spent, when do you think Russia will be depleted of resources?

 

[RDU Irish]

Why not call out the support for Israeli?

Because this is the Ukraine/Russia thread Einstein. JFC - maybe if your Ukraine boner wasn't blocking your vision you might see I am VERY anti foreign aid including GTFO of Israel's way and don't pay for shit there either. Not my monkeys, not my circus either.

 

[RDU Irish]

I would love to see Putin catch a stray bullet, but I don't think he's leaving until he passes naturally. I'll be surprised if Russia bleeds out. The demise of soldiers, equipment and supplies has been reported for a couple of years now, yet there they are.

For those of you that want to continue supplying Ukraine until Russia is spent, when do you think Russia will be depleted of resources?

Same low beta war mongers on here claim we are winning by giving Ukraine our old stock so we can restock. But what works for us can't possibly work for Russia.

Saw reports I am sure will be vehemently denied that all that material being sent to Ukraine is being sold off cheap to non-friendlies. Totally inconceivable I know.

 

[ab2cmiller]

 

[GATTACA!]

 

[TheProspector]

I would love to see Putin catch a stray bullet, but I don't think he's leaving until he passes naturally. I'll be surprised if Russia bleeds out. The demise of soldiers, equipment and supplies has been reported for a couple of years now, yet there they are.

For those of you that want to continue supplying Ukraine until Russia is spent, when do you think Russia will be depleted of resources?

Does it matter when/if Russia is depleted of resources? If Ukraine wants to fight and our allies are also shouldering a large portion of the aid (which they are), maybe, just maybe, a country founded on freedom like the US should look to support a weaker nation being attacked unprovoked by our main geopolitical enemy over the last 75 years. Radical thinking I know.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Does it matter when/if Russia is depleted of resources? If Ukraine wants to fight and our allies are also shouldering a large portion of the aid (which they are), maybe, just maybe, a country founded on freedom like the US should look to support a weaker nation being attacked unprovoked by our main geopolitical enemy over the last 75 years. Radical thinking I know.

Then support them enough to win. Supporting them just enough to maintain the status quo and have additional Ukranian's die needlessly is not "supporting a weaker nation".

If you don't want to increase support enough to win, then you have to pursue peace.