Replacing Diaco

IrishLax · Dec 11, 2013

First things first, I think we need to look at the ex-Penn State linebacker coach. Would be a great fill for a position coach.

DC? I don't know. Maybe Cooks. Elston? Elliot? Are either of those guys going to stay?

What about taking a look at Orgeron? I reallllly don't know if Kelly would be down to work with him based on their icy handshake... but this is some serious shit that needs to be handled ASAP before it gets completely out of hand.

Rack Em · Dec 11, 2013

Monty Kiffin...

Ironman8 · Dec 11, 2013

Denbrock?

STLDomer · Dec 11, 2013

Narduzzi, Orgeron. Someone big needs to be hired on O or D.

Rack Em · Dec 11, 2013

IrishLax said:
First things first, I think we need to look at the ex-Penn State linebacker coach. Would be a great fill for a position coach.

DC? I don't know. Maybe Cooks. Elston? Elliot? Are either of those guys going to stay?

What about taking a look at Orgeron? I reallllly don't know if Kelly would be down to work with him based on their icy handshake... but this is some serious shit that needs to be handled ASAP before it gets completely out of hand.

The South Bend Hummer dealerships would be thrilled! Everyone in South Bend would get a Hummer from Ed O!

Rack Em · Dec 11, 2013

I don't think we should get our hopes up. If ND won't pay Diaco competitively after winning the Broyles Award, then they sure as hell aren't going to pay for an established coordinator.

irishff1014 · Dec 11, 2013

At least so far when we have had coaches leave Kelly has made some very good hires. So no reason not to trust him this time.

NewBrunswickIrish · Dec 11, 2013

IrishLax said:
First things first, I think we need to look at the ex-Penn State linebacker coach. Would be a great fill for a position coach.

DC? I don't know. Maybe Cooks. Elston? Elliot? Are either of those guys going to stay?

What about taking a look at Orgeron? I reallllly don't know if Kelly would be down to work with him based on their icy handshake... but this is some serious shit that needs to be handled ASAP before it gets completely out of hand.

I said it in the Diaco thread but I think it's cooks and JOnes gets the LB coach job and they hire someone on the outside for the qb job

CraigKrenzel · Dec 11, 2013

Ironman8 said:
Denbrock?

My first thought.

NewBrunswickIrish · Dec 11, 2013

Rack Em said:
I don't think we should get our hopes up. If ND won't pay Diaco competitively after winning the Broyles Award, then they sure as hell aren't going to pay for an established coordinator.

Does anyone know what he was getting paid? Not many assistants are making 1.5 million

IrishLax · Dec 11, 2013

Rack Em said:
I don't think we should get our hopes up. If ND won't pay Diaco competitively after winning the Broyles Award, then they sure as hell aren't going to pay for an established coordinator.

Yeah, the thing is it is easy to promote from within for OC.

DC... that was Diaco's animal. I'm not sure what you do. And the pieces we have on D are all in a specific mold that kind of sucks for certain other systems.

koonja · Dec 11, 2013

Bring on Ed-O! He's 5X the recruiter Diaco is. Him and Alfrod would be the bash brothers of recruiting.

IrishLax · Dec 11, 2013

NewBrunswickIrish said:
Does anyone know what he was getting paid? Not many assistants are making 1.5 million

Never going to match 1.5 mil. Just does not make sense to pay any coordinator that much.

NewBrunswickIrish · Dec 11, 2013

CraigKrenzel said:
My first thought.

Whose going to coach wide outs now? Wouldn't he be up for the OC job before the DC job? I think he last coached as a DC 15 years ago?

CarrollVermin · Dec 11, 2013

Chavis.

Ironman8 · Dec 11, 2013

NewBrunswickIrish said:
Whose going to coach wide outs now? Wouldn't he be up for the OC job before the DC job?

He was BK's DC at Grand Valley...

Me2SouthBend · Dec 11, 2013

Rack Em said:
I don't think we should get our hopes up. If ND won't pay Diaco competitively after winning the Broyles Award, then they sure as hell aren't going to pay for an established coordinator.

Can someone post what Diaco was making? Do we know for sure the raises didn't happen after last year? Or is this just Chicken Little speculation? If indeed he's going to get $1.5M per annum to be the HC, would we expect ND to match that as a DC?

CarrollVermin · Dec 11, 2013

Ironman8 said:
He was BK's DC at Grand Valley...

This whole idea of reshuffling the staff...I am over it. Go after a real OC and a real DC. People with experience and a proven record.

gkIrish · Dec 11, 2013

Anyone who runs a 4-3

CraigKrenzel · Dec 11, 2013

IrishLax said:
Yeah, the thing is it is easy to promote from within for OC.

DC... that was Diaco's animal. I'm not sure what you do. And the pieces we have on D are all in a specific mold that kind of sucks for certain other systems.

This is my biggest worry. There were some D folks that found themselves lost in the mix after Weiss left scheme-wise if I remember right. Perhaps the way Kelly recruits "Big Skill" etc., makes dealing with any philosophy change easier?

Ironman8 · Dec 11, 2013

CarrollVermin said:
This whole idea of reshuffling the staff...I am over it. Go after a real OC and a real DC. People with experience and a proven record.

But that's the point. He does have experience at the position, with BK, and a proven record. Plus, it helps with recruiting and continuity.

TheChosen1 · Dec 11, 2013

kuehnja said:
Bring on Ed-O! He's 5X the recruiter Diaco is. Him and Alfrod would be the bash brothers of recruiting.

Wouldn't be surprised if Diaco takes Alford for his OC

CraigKrenzel · Dec 11, 2013

CarrollVermin said:
This whole idea of reshuffling the staff...I am over it. Go after a real OC and a real DC. People with experience and a proven record.

Maybe. But you risk creating rifts in the staff and misunderstandings. I imagine when all of the coaches are on the same page and trust each other, everyone (not least of which, the players themselves) are better off.

Damnit I need to get back to studying.

Ironman8 · Dec 11, 2013

gkIrish said:
Anyone who runs a 4-3

When we have recruited for years to be a 3-4? I prefer the 3-4 as a scheme anyway, but I definitely don't want a change after spending so much time and effort being very specific in recruiting to profiles to fit this scheme.

IrishLax · Dec 11, 2013

TheChosen1 said:
Wouldn't be surprised if Diaco takes Alford for his OC

Nope. That would utterly shock me.

Buster Bluth · Dec 11, 2013

IrishLax said:
Nope. That would utterly shock me.

+1

gkIrish · Dec 11, 2013

Ironman8 said:
When we have recruited for years to be a 3-4? I prefer the 3-4 as a scheme anyway, but I definitely don't want a change after spending so much time and effort being very specific in recruiting to profiles to fit this scheme.

Fair point. I just prefer the 4-3 in general. Our MLB depth is pretty weak right now so it's not like it would be that hard to adjust. We would need to recruit more DT (which we should be doing anyway) but otherwise not much would change.

Hammer Of The Gods · Dec 11, 2013

IrishLax said:
Nope. That would utterly shock me.

Agreed. If that happens. S*** has completely hit the fan.

Ironman8 · Dec 11, 2013

I could not fathom someone leaving an assistant position at ND for another assistant position at UCONN, even if it is OC.

Calabrese's People · Dec 11, 2013

John Jancek?

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