Presidential Election 2024

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NDVirginia19 said:
While I still think that having VZ come in and campaign in the election and make negative comments about the opposition party, Trump asking Russia to find Hillary's emails and release them to the media is worse
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I think her using the emails, something I would have faced punishment for when I had a clearance, that she got off free on was absolutely insane and negligent.
 
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I think her using the emails, something I would have faced punishment for when I had a clearance, that she got off free on was absolutely insane and negligent.
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We should be able to agree that both instances were terrible for both people and that both should be held accountable. What are your thoughts on Trump taking classified and then showing them to those without clearance? I can only assume you would have faced some sort of punishment for similar actions when you had clearance
 
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Rocket89 said:
Stock market finished on 4 day record high, you gotta now credit the strong economy because it’s future looking to a Trump win. Get with the new messaging!
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Haha. When the stock market hit record highs under Trump, you were probably one of many crying about how it only benefits the rich and wall street. New messaging!
 
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ColoradoIrish said:
We should be able to agree that both instances were terrible for both people and that both should be held accountable. What are your thoughts on Trump taking classified and then showing them to those without clearance? I can only assume you would have faced some sort of punishment for similar actions when you had clearance
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He should have never done that, just like Biden shouldn't have shown classified documents to his ghostwriter.
 
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Polish Leppy 22 said:
Haha. When the stock market hit record highs under Trump, you were probably one of many crying about how it only benefits the rich and wall street. New messaging!
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Normal people can cite the health of stock market as a leading economic indicator while also lobbying for greater wealth distribution.
 
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Biden opens to financial floodgates back to Iran.
Biden Iranian Envoy works for Iran.
Iran spies on Trump for Biden-Harris.
Iran tries to kill Trump.

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I think we are back to you have to vote for her to see what you get. Reminder why a lot of people think she is dumb.
 
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I don't doubt there is more behind these assassination attempts than a couple of lone wolves but I have a hard time falling behind the first narrative of "Iran" that gets dumped out. Anyone that doesn't start the conversation with our own three letter agencies is lying to themselves (or covering).
 
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RDU Irish said:
I don't doubt there is more behind these assassination attempts than a couple of lone wolves but I have a hard time falling behind the first narrative of "Iran" that gets dumped out. Anyone that doesn't start the conversation with our own three letter agencies is lying to themselves (or covering).
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I couldn't agree more, it definitely came from within our own country. Doesn't mean Iran isn't trying stuff as well. I think the first attempt was from within our government. The just recent one I have more doubts on if it was coordinated with anything greater than just the one dude. It came across as way too sloppy for that. But if the dude manages to live to make it trial we might stand a chance of getting an idea on what really happened. First attempt was way too sloppy in our ways that it had to be coordinated if that makes any sense.

Sad that this is the current state of American politics
 
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ColoradoIrish said:
We should be able to agree that both instances were terrible for both people and that both should be held accountable. What are your thoughts on Trump taking classified and then showing them to those without clearance? I can only assume you would have faced some sort of punishment for similar actions when you had clearance
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Looking at how Biden had them in the garage accessible to a crackhead hungry for money, Trump was showing them off for street cred, Hillary was treating them like junk mail, and I would wager Obama had them loose somewhere too, I think the bigger problem is how they handle sensitive information and the selective politicization of it. Normal people have to be in a secure space and controlled access.
 
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drayer54 said:
Biden opens to financial floodgates back to Iran.
Biden Iranian Envoy works for Iran.
Iran spies on Trump for Biden-Harris.
Iran tries to kill Trump.

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Do we deserve to know?
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I think we are back to you have to vote for her to see what you get. Reminder why a lot of people think she is dumb.
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It's like buying a timeshare, then finding out afterwards that you just F'd yourself.
 
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drayer54 said:
Weird.

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It is entirely possible, if not likely, he is corrupt AND they are targeting him for speaking up. Anyone care to make the case that corruption is rooted out and prosecuted absolutely and never used as leverage to control persons of interest?
 
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It is entirely possible, if not likely, he is corrupt AND they are targeting him for speaking up. Anyone care to make the case that corruption is rooted out and prosecuted absolutely and never used as leverage to control persons of interest?
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It's also entirely possible, if not likely, he is corrupt AND they are not targeting him for speaking up but for his corruption. And the only reason he's saying that is to deflect from the corruption. There's so many possibilities and the reason we need to dig into it all and try to find the truth and root out corrupted parties.
 
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RDU Irish said:
It is entirely possible, if not likely, he is corrupt AND they are targeting him for speaking up. Anyone care to make the case that corruption is rooted out and prosecuted absolutely and never used as leverage to control persons of interest?
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I'm sure it is both. They don't want take fire on their open border plan from within the party. He should have had his son sell art for the bribes.
 
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He's always been a scummbag. I remember Yang called him out when he was running against him. Yang said Adams would get nothing done and just line the pockets of those around him. Surprise surprise.
 
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He's always been a scummbag. I remember Yang called him out when he was running against him. Yang said Adams would get nothing done and just line the pockets of those around him. Surprise surprise.
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He's about as quintessential classic Dem candidate there is. Don't think anyone is losing sleep over him.
 
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What stops, say, Kamala Harris from offering a $1M watch that someone can buy as a de facto bribe? Is this all just transparent corruption and money laundering?
 
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drayer54 said:
They are not sending their best. Just innocent migrant farm workers looking to do the work you wont do, right? This is why I never give a shit when liberals claim to care about public safety.

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@Cackalacky2.0 two questions for you on this

1) how many illegals do we need to work the fields to ensure our vegetables make it to the grocery stores?

2) how many illegals are you housing and supporting in support of this effort?
 
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