Presidential Election 2024

[GATTACA!]

Eating cats and dogs in Ohio.

Executing babies

Transgender illegal aliens in prison.

Orban thinks I'm great.

Concepts of a plan.

Hunter Biden rant.

But it was all the moderators' fault.

What a fucking cult.

He’s one of the leaders on IVF

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

He’s one of the leaders on IVF

Tulsi has to coach better.

 

[RDU Irish]

Anyone fact check the Russia invasion happening 3 days after Kamala left Ukraine? I presume it is true since the moderators didn't dispute it. "I've met Zelensky five times" and won't answer if she ever met Putin. Isn't that like moderating a divorce and only talking to one spouse? And you wonder why the world is in flames. Then she thinks she takes a shot at Trump on negotiating with the Taliban - that is a win for Trump, he threatened that MF and sniping stopped instantly.

Maybe there is a happy medium between Kamala prepping for two weeks and Trump wandering in off the street. Trump missed so many openings and came off angry - then again that might resonate with folks pissed about kids raped and killed by illegals and $4 eggs. It is obvious he thinks rambling for 2 hours at a rally five times a week is debate prep. He tried with angle on student loans bribing for votes just like her only policy presentation of $25k 1st time home buyer credit, $6k child credit and $50k small business start up deduction.

Thought he showed more moderation on abortion than Kamala. Put it to the states just like everyone wants - 52 years and he got something done that makes sense. Mods paint him in a corner but not Kamala is so bogus - if you want him to say he won't ban it you need to make her admit she wants viable fetuses murdered. TIM F-ING WALZ signed a bill doing exactly what Trump claimed but the mods call it a lie? Trump was 100% correct in his abortion assertation regarding Virginia but missed the obvious LAYUP on labeling Walz's actions.

Minnesota governor signs broad abortion rights bill into law
"Democratic majorities rejected dozens of amendments that Republican lawmakers proposed as guardrails, including prohibitions on third-trimester abortions except to save the patient’s life."

 

[RDU Irish]

I’m watching this debate… honest question do Trump supporters not actually understand what tariffs are and how they work?

Regardless of how they work - Trump's claim that Biden/Harris never removed them validates the action. Why not remove the tariffs two years ago to combat inflation? Housing cost - maybe 20M illegals is pumping up housing demand a smidge. What good does 3m new houses do if you have another 20m illegals flood the border (haha just like their 6 charging stations built for billions of dollars haha). Then again - sounds like they are cramming a couple dozen Haitians per house in Springfield so maybe those 21M people only need about 1M housing units.

 

[RDU Irish]

Eating cats and dogs in Ohio.

Executing babies

Transgender illegal aliens in prison.

Orban thinks I'm great.

Concepts of a plan.

Hunter Biden rant.

But it was all the moderators' fault.

What a fucking cult.

Where was he wrong on the bolded?

As for the other items.
- Who GAF what Orban thinks - conjecture
- Should be obvious to anyone he isn't going to do squat with ACA which is why he dodged committing to fix it - but you will still fear monger
- Moderators sucked as "fact checkers" and one sided Qs but I agree they let him butt in any time he wanted, would have been better for him to move on. Not ridiculous to think they were trapping him particularly when factoring the lean of Qs and fact checks

 

[drayer54]

Where was he wrong on the bolded?

As for the other items.
- Who GAF what Orban thinks - conjecture
- Should be obvious to anyone he isn't going to do squat with ACA which is why he dodged committing to fix it - but you will still fear monger
- Moderators sucked as "fact checkers" and one sided Qs but I agree they let him butt in any time he wanted, would have been better for him to move on. Not ridiculous to think they were trapping him particularly when factoring the lean of Qs and fact checks

There’s still people in here who think the laptop is Russian disinformation.

Even Walz signed the PRO act in Minnesota, meaning no restrictions on abortion. Kamala refused to answer her own limitations.
Fair to say Trump has been more correct on the laptop than the media has.
Kamala has advocated for the tranny surgeries for illegals.
The Ohio thing still smells real to me. 911 calls, witnesses, etc.
He needs to shut up on Obran. He was correct that the ACA isn’t moving, but could have said something better than the concept crap.
Moderators were absolutely terrible and completely tag-teaming for Kamala. I’d bet she had the questions in advance.

 

[RDU Irish]

There’s still people in here who think the laptop is Russian disinformation.

Even Walz signed the PRO act in Minnesota, meaning no restrictions on abortion. Kamala refused to answer her own limitations.
Fair to say Trump has been more correct on the laptop than the media has.
Kamala has advocated for the tranny surgeries for illegals.
The Ohio thing still smells real to me. 911 calls, witnesses, etc.
He needs to shut up on Obran. He was correct that the ACA isn’t moving, but could have said something better than the concept crap.
Moderators were absolutely terrible and completely tag-teaming for Kamala. I’d bet she had the questions in advance.

I'm starting to think she gave them the topics she wanted covered instead of them giving her the Qs. Felt like the entire debate was litigating Trump and ignoring who has been in office the last 3.5 years. Seriously can't grill Kamala on the border? That is a top 3 issue that the president actually affects. Nope - lets talk abortion that only gets impacted through signing legislation you didn't write or nominating SCOTUS. The media is absolutely terrible about focusing on what the president actually does. Didn't they roast Trump on blocking the immigration bill like he has control of Congress or something? That is a hack Dem attack and the moderators pushed it on Trump like it makes sense to anyone with half a brain.

 

[Irish#1]

The unfortunate part is even though Harris won the debate it doesn't make her anymore qualified.

The fear mongering is still weird. They conveniently forget Trump was in office once before and none of that manifested itself.

 

[drayer54]

I'm starting to think she gave them the topics she wanted covered instead of them giving her the Qs. Felt like the entire debate was litigating Trump and ignoring who has been in office the last 3.5 years. Seriously can't grill Kamala on the border? That is a top 3 issue that the president actually affects. Nope - let’s talk abortion that only gets impacted through signing legislation you didn't write or nominating SCOTUS. The media is absolutely terrible about focusing on what the president actually does. Didn't they roast Trump on blocking the immigration bill like he has control of Congress or something? That is a hack Dem attack and the moderators pushed it on Trump like it makes sense to anyone with half a brain.

J6, Kamala’s race, etc. one sided fact checks. Honestly, it was just embarrassing.

 

[ab2cmiller]

All of the above stuff may be true. But the Republicans chose to put forth a candidate that has huuuuge flaws.

A candidate that could only possibly beat a senile old man or a vice president that was so bad that Dem's were actively considering dumping her as the VP this go around.

This election isn't about choosing a candidate that is best for this country. It's about choosing a candidate that is less horrible for this country. Both of these candidates will screw over America.

 

[TorontoGold]

lmao the moderators only appear biased to you if you already are working on rationalizing what Trump is saying as something legitimate.

I can only imagine the think pieces that would be dropped if Joe Biden stumbled through a speech saying "Listen Jack.....the......MAGA people are......eating cats and dogs...I've seen videos". We would absolutely be seeing dozens of posts here about how unfit he is. Or if Kamala called Trump a fascist like him calling her a marxist? But yeah the moderators are so biased that they always gave him the last word and said "Thank you Sir" after something like "they're transing the illegals! in prison!".

 

[NDVirginia19]

lmao the moderators only appear biased to you if you already are working on rationalizing what Trump is saying as something legitimate.

I can only imagine the think pieces that would be dropped if Joe Biden stumbled through a speech saying "Listen Jack.....the......MAGA people are......eating cats and dogs...I've seen videos". We would absolutely be seeing dozens of posts here about how unfit he is. Or if Kamala called Trump a fascist like him calling her a marxist? But yeah the moderators are so biased that they always gave him the last word and said "Thank you Sir" after something like "they're transing the illegals! in prison!".

Kamala Harris Supported Taxpayer-Funded Sex Change Surgeries For Illegal Immigrants

Vice President Kamala Harris once supported taxpayer-funded sex change surgeries for migrants in Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention, according

ijr.com

I mean you can pretend that it's a lie all you want

 

[NDVirginia19]

lmao the moderators only appear biased to you if you already are working on rationalizing what Trump is saying as something legitimate.

I can only imagine the think pieces that would be dropped if Joe Biden stumbled through a speech saying "Listen Jack.....the......MAGA people are......eating cats and dogs...I've seen videos". We would absolutely be seeing dozens of posts here about how unfit he is. Or if Kamala called Trump a fascist like him calling her a marxist? But yeah the moderators are so biased that they always gave him the last word and said "Thank you Sir" after something like "they're transing the illegals! in prison!".

And there are plenty of lies unchecked on Kamala that the moderators did not touch. Should the moderators be able to know all of these things to fact check live during the debate? No, that's pretty unreasonable. However, if you are not going to have producers work to fact check and provide the moderators even fact checking on both sides, then it is very clear that selectively only fact checking one side shows incredible bias. That's not to say that Trump did a good job, because he did pretty fucking horribly. But it is also true that the Moderators clearly slanted the debate to help Kamala.

Kamala denied ever supporting firearm buy backs (lie)

Kamala brought up the Charlottesville "fine people on both sides" line (lie)

Harris claimed that it would be a bloodbath for America, implying that he was going to advocate for violence if he lost when he was clearly talking about the automobile industry (nothing)

Trump claimed babies were killed outside the womb in failed abortions. Under Tim Walz, babies born alive in botched abortions are allowed to be left to die. Eight babies who survived abortions in Minnesota were abandoned and sadly perished under Walz. The ABC moderators simply said Trump was lying and moved on without adding context.

 

[Irish#1]

Guess we'll see more of this if Harris wins.

 

[Irish#1]

All of the above stuff may be true. But the Republicans chose to put forth a candidate that has huuuuge flaws.

A candidate that could only possibly beat a senile old man or a vice president that was so bad that Dem's were actively considering dumping her as the VP this go around.

This election isn't about choosing a candidate that is best for this country. It's about choosing a candidate that is less horrible for this country. Both of these candidates will screw over America.

Both parties put forth candidates with huge flaws, both are accomplished liars and we'll be stuck with one.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

lmao the moderators only appear biased to you if you already are working on rationalizing what Trump is saying as something legitimate.

I can only imagine the think pieces that would be dropped if Joe Biden stumbled through a speech saying "Listen Jack.....the......MAGA people are......eating cats and dogs...I've seen videos". We would absolutely be seeing dozens of posts here about how unfit he is. Or if Kamala called Trump a fascist like him calling her a marxist? But yeah the moderators are so biased that they always gave him the last word and said "Thank you Sir" after something like "they're transing the illegals! in prison!".

The moderators gave him more air time.

Personally, I think she could have done better. I think she let him marinate in his own juice and should have pointed out the lunacy of what he was saying more often than not.

 

[GATTACA!]

Guess we'll see more of this if Harris wins.

Twitter kept a database to track all of the requests the Trump administration made to have things removed or blocked.

Social media companies are free to ignore any request they feel like. There's nothing illegal about asking them to take something down, from either side.

 

[TorontoGold]

And there are plenty of lies unchecked on Kamala that the moderators did not touch. Should the moderators be able to know all of these things to fact check live during the debate? No, that's pretty unreasonable. However, if you are not going to have producers work to fact check and provide the moderators even fact checking on both sides, then it is very clear that selectively only fact checking one side shows incredible bias. That's not to say that Trump did a good job, because he did pretty fucking horribly. But it is also true that the Moderators clearly slanted the debate to help Kamala.

Kamala denied ever supporting firearm buy backs (lie)

Kamala brought up the Charlottesville "fine people on both sides" line (lie)

Harris claimed that it would be a bloodbath for America, implying that he was going to advocate for violence if he lost when he was clearly talking about the automobile industry (nothing)

Trump claimed babies were killed outside the womb in failed abortions. Under Tim Walz, babies born alive in botched abortions are allowed to be left to die. Eight babies who survived abortions in Minnesota were abandoned and sadly perished under Walz. The ABC moderators simply said Trump was lying and moved on without adding context.

It might appear that way because, uh, the lies that Trump is saying are pretty heinous lol. Like his lies are so astronomically worse that a functioning human can offer a fact check, but if Kamala does typical politician shit that will not register on people because it's what politicians do.

I wish Kamala would say more insane shit, like just go full blown GOP and start talking about roaming groups of militia's killing random people and then when she gets called out on it just squirm and point to something that contains elements of truth relating to her initial point. I wish she could find some random pink hairs on a Twitter video saying "Conservatives want to see my genitals" and then spread that around as if it's an epidemic. Because only once the Dems engage in something like that, thats when we will see how absurd it is to continually have to respond to GOP'ers as if they are rational people. Pretty wild to hear "The country is in terrible terrible shape" or how "the country has gone to hell" AND that is supposed to be the patriotic guy? My goodness you would think he's the one who truly hates the country.

Kamala Harris Supported Taxpayer-Funded Sex Change Surgeries For Illegal Immigrants

Vice President Kamala Harris once supported taxpayer-funded sex change surgeries for migrants in Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention, according

ijr.com

I mean you can pretend that it's a lie all you want

So, her advocating for treatment of detainee's health conditions has been triangulated into her "trans'ing illegals". Because rational adults truly truly believe that someone who is crossing the border is *checks notes* doing it to get free transitioning treatment??? I thought they were secret chinese nationals or ISIS? But now it's trans sleeper agents embedding themselves into the prison system for free surgery lol.

The moderators gave him more air time.

Personally, I think she could have done better. I think she let him marinate in his own juice and should have pointed out the lunacy of what he was saying more often than not.

And apparently that wasn't enough. I think they would have rather it just be a 3 hour Trump stump speech on OANN so that it could be really bigly fair.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Both parties put forth candidates with huge flaws, both are accomplished liars and we'll be stuck with one.

 

[TorontoGold]

Twitter kept a database to track all of the requests the Trump administration made to have things removed or blocked.

Social media companies are free to ignore any request they feel like. There's nothing illegal about asking them to take something down, from either side.

Shhhh don't let him know lol we're still wondering if Barry is a foreign sleeper agent.

 

[Irish#1]

Twitter kept a database to track all of the requests the Trump administration made to have things removed or blocked.

Social media companies are free to ignore any request they feel like. There's nothing illegal about asking them to take something down, from either side.

Agree, my concern is the dude flat out denied it.

 

[drayer54]

lmao the moderators only appear biased to you if you already are working on rationalizing what Trump is saying as something legitimate.

How many times did they inject to correct Kamala?

If the Harris campaign wrote the questions- how would it look different than last night?

 

[Irish#1]

There's a laundry list of things she said that she's now denying. That to me is lying, but hey, to each his own.

 

[TorontoGold]

How many times did they inject to correct Kamala?

If the Harris campaign wrote the questions- how would it look different than last night?

I didn't keep track, if someone is lying and screaming more they are going to be called on it more.

Because they're on actual issues and not on insane conspiracies? What other questions would you have liked? Is the moonlanding real? What is covefe?

 

[drayer54]

I didn't keep track, if someone is lying and screaming more they are going to be called on it more.

Because they're on actual issues and not on insane conspiracies? What other questions would you have liked? Is the moonlanding real? What is covefe?

Asking about Kamala's race and then giving her the floor to comment was chef's kiss bias. She ranted about Charlottesville lies and abortion lies completely unchecked.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

There's a laundry list of things she said that she's now denying. That to me is lying, but hey, to each his own.

Yeah, to each their own.

Migrants are killing millions of Americans every year certainly has a kind of ring to it when you say it out loud.

But yeah, it's all the same.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Yeah, to each their own.

Migrants are killing millions of Americans every year certainly has a kind of ring to it when you say it out loud.

But yeah, it's all the same.

I Googled migrants killing millions. I assumed there must've been claims by Republicans. I came up empty.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I Googled migrants killing millions. I assumed there must've been claims by Republicans. I came up empty.

Just like their platform.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Just like their platform.

So can you give me a link?

 

[TorontoGold]

Asking about Kamala's race and then giving her the floor to comment was chef's kiss bias. She ranted about Charlottesville lies and abortion lies completely unchecked.

Trump brings it up at his rallies? Is it not fair game that the whole world gets to see it?

" But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name"

Boy, sure seems like he said very fine people. We're supposed to think he meant that the very fine people were there that weren't nazi's were pro-Robert E Lee? Those are the nice people? lol

What abortion lies? Which ones lmao.