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I would have thought we would see more non-Trump supporters calling it elder abuse with what happened. Even with the panelists giving him the last word every time. I guess you don't hate the media enough!
 

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I would have thought we would see more non-Trump supporters calling it elder abuse with what happened. Even with the panelists giving him the last word every time. I guess you don't hate the media enough!
The questions were slanted, the fact checks were done terribly, and as the great Antonio Brown said…

 

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I recently attended an event where RFK Jr spoke. I did not follow his campaign and it was the first time I saw him speak. I gained a lot of respect for some of the things he stood for. He spoke of the 1st Amendment going away under a Harris presidency and the media being an arm of the democrat party. I think we clearly witnessed what he was mentioning in the debate tonight. A complete disgrace to our country. The moderators "fact checked" Trump all night and interrupted him and never once did it to Harris even when she brought up the Charlottesville hoax that even Snopes has debunked. Sad what the media has become.

When RFK Jr discussed the democrat party censoring him, he made a chilling point.

"Any government that can silence their critics has a license to commit any atrocities."


www.snopes.com

No, Trump Did Not Call Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists 'Very Fine People'

However, the accuracy of what Trump did claim – that there were "very fine people on both sides" of the 2017 Unite the Right debacle – is in question.
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www.snopes.com
 

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I recently attended an event where RFK Jr spoke. I did not follow his campaign and it was the first time I saw him speak. I gained a lot of respect for some of the things he stood for. He spoke of the 1st Amendment going away under a Harris presidency and the media being an arm of the democrat party. I think we clearly witnessed what he was mentioning in the debate tonight. A complete disgrace to our country. The moderators "fact checked" Trump all night and interrupted him and never once did it to Harris even when she brought up the Charlottesville hoax that even Snopes has debunked. Sad what the media has become.

When RFK Jr discussed the democrat party censoring him, he made a chilling point.

"Any government that can silence their critics has a license to commit any atrocities."


www.snopes.com

No, Trump Did Not Call Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists 'Very Fine People'

However, the accuracy of what Trump did claim – that there were "very fine people on both sides" of the 2017 Unite the Right debacle – is in question.
www.snopes.com
www.snopes.com
If RFK jr was so morally upstanding and outraged by the Harris/Biden administration why was Harris the first person he tried to peddle his services to? When she refused to even entertain him he slunk off to Trump.

Phony ass grifter.
 

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If RFK jr was so morally upstanding and outraged by the Harris/Biden administration why was Harris the first person he tried to peddle his services to? When she refused to even entertain him he slunk off to Trump.

Phony ass grifter.
Conservatives do love themselves a grifter, and a emotional snowflake one at that. Just purely emotionally driven with no facts/logic/reason. I can't wait hear the bigly big plan of how tariffs won't impact consumers.
 

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If RFK jr was so morally upstanding and outraged by the Harris/Biden administration why was Harris the first person he tried to peddle his services to? When she refused to even entertain him he slunk off to Trump.

Phony ass grifter.
His main points of interest are going after big pharma and the FDA. He needs the person in power to move his positions. Obviously, Harris has no interest in those positions, so he then spoke with Trump. Maybe Trump, with his help, will clean them up and go after the likes of Monsanto.
 

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Conservatives do love themselves a grifter, and a emotional snowflake one at that. Just purely emotionally driven with no facts/logic/reason. I can't wait hear the bigly big plan of how tariffs won't impact consumers.
But I am sure the Dems wouldn't pass up the votes of his supporters.
 

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His main points of interest are going after big pharma and the FDA. He needs the person in power to move his positions. Obviously, Harris has no interest in those positions, so he then spoke with Trump. Maybe Trump, with his help, will clean them up and go after the likes of Monsanto.
Maybe we can get lucky and with RFK jr's help we can get a bunch of babies killed from measles like he helped accomplish in Samoa.
 

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But I am sure the Dems wouldn't pass up the votes of his supporters.
They literally did.

Also, they would have alienated a huge portion of their support if they welcomed him into the fold. Instead, he want crawling to the king of Project Warpspeed (something the entire world should thank Trump for) which is ironic given RFK's core supporters are hippie antivaxxers who traditionally would have been on the Left.
 

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They literally did.

Also, they would have alienated a huge portion of their support if they welcomed him into the fold. Instead, he want crawling to the king of Project Warpspeed (something the entire world should thank Trump for) which is ironic given RFK's core supporters are hippie antivaxxers who traditionally would have been on the Left.
They do align on some stuff though. I'm sure RFK is the one giving Trump the info about dog eating. RFK has first hand experience.
 

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They do align on some stuff though. I'm sure RFK is the one giving Trump the info about dog eating. RFK has first hand experience.
I can’t believe they’re doing DEI for crime now. Trying to give those pet kills to an undeserving migrant.
 

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The most important issue to voters is the economy. She's got her work cut out for her and I'm not sure she can recover from that given she has been part of this administration that got us to where we are.

 

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A perfect sign of the morally bankrupt right wing/GOP/conservatives is that this was supposed to be Trump's shining moment and after he gets embarrassed on stage there's not a single criticism of Trump in this thread from his supporters.

Oh, it's all the fault of ABC!!

It's not easy looking in the mirror, is it? You have to play politics to prop your guy up so he doesn't lose and then bemoan how it's everyone else's fault--they're the ones playing politics, but not you!
 

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I don’t think the debate really changed anyone’s mind. Harris was certainly the more composed of the two, and by design she avoided answering pretty much any question with substance…because she didn’t have to.

As a likely Trump voter, I was super disappointed. In the first question on the economy he appeared measured and poised. But once she made the dig about his rallies, he just couldn’t help himself.

Literally all he had to do was stay composed and talk about the things he has done (and his administration did have some positive aspects, specifically as it relates to the economy) and talk about policy points for this election cycle…but instead he devolved into raging, internet conspiracies, and just being argumentative.

He could’ve really taken some control last night, but he instead chose to defend his rallies.
 

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Looking forward to the new Pink Floyd album "Concepts of a Plan."

Track one is "Orban Likes Me", which should totally slap with your beyond Fascist uncle who loves shitty dictators in Europe.

Really, though, thought it went great for Dear Leader. That Tulsi coaching prep really paid off.
 

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I don’t think the debate really changed anyone’s mind. Harris was certainly the more composed of the two, and by design she avoided answering pretty much any question with substance…because she didn’t have to.

As a likely Trump voter, I was super disappointed. In the first question on the economy he appeared measured and poised. But once she made the dig about his rallies, he just couldn’t help himself.

Literally all he had to do was stay composed and talk about the things he has done (and his administration did have some positive aspects, specifically as it relates to the economy) and talk about policy points for this election cycle…but instead he devolved into raging, internet conspiracies, and just being argumentative.

He could’ve really taken some control last night, but he instead chose to defend his rallies.
He had so many opportunities to dunk on her and her failures and terrible record and left them on the table. A Haley or Desantis could have beaten all 3 of them last night. I'm beyond ready to move on from Trump, but it is what it is.
 

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Eating cats and dogs in Ohio.

Executing babies

Transgender illegal aliens in prison.

Orban thinks I'm great.

Concepts of a plan.

Hunter Biden rant.

But it was all the moderators' fault.

What a fucking cult.
You would think that those well indented moderates would say how brutal this debate was, but I think it can be boiled down to.....the moderators only gave Trump 95% of the last lines? Or that they had to say it the city manager and not UltraMAGAKillCommies on twitter who was saying they're eating cats? I don't know, it's all very very confusing!
 

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Soon, a string of Fox News friendly faces was called upon. Looking beaten down, host Sean Hannity insisted that the “biggest loser in the debate” was ABC, bashing the network’s journalists David Muir and Linsey Davis as “far-left moderators.” Speaking with the air of someone just grateful to be invited on television, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. complained about “the evident bias of the moderators who were fact-checking constantly trivialities by President Trump.” Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida called the moderators “an embarrassment to journalism.” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis told viewers he much preferred the moderating style of CNN’s Jake Tapper and Dana Bash because “they asked questions” and “they got out of the way.”*
 
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