Presidential Election 2024

[ab2cmiller]

 

[ab2cmiller]

 

[Irish#1]

Sour grapes. The Dems would never do this.

 

[ulukinatme]

That's pretty eye opening, especially the DNC plants in their ranks trying to undermine the campaign. Hopefully they have some evidence to back that stuff up, that's some dirty play.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

So Trump Vance say: $5000 credit. Harris says: We will do $6000

Trump says: Lets build a wall. Harris: 2015 to 2024 - that is racist and un American.... Now she wants to build a wall?

Wasn't there another Trump/Vance platform that she is trying to make her own ?

AND.....

Trump agrees to Harris team debate outline.... Now she wants to keep the mic's on and sit down? They only want the mic's on because it will make Trump look rude and racist when he "interrupts a women of color"

 

[Irish#1]

So Trump Vance say: $5000 credit. Harris says: We will do $6000

Trump says: Lets build a wall. Harris: 2015 to 2024 - that is racist and un American.... Now she wants to build a wall?

Wasn't there another Trump/Vance platform that she is trying to make her own ?

AND.....

Trump agrees to Harris team debate outline.... Now she wants to keep the mic's on and sit down? They only want the mic's on because it will make Trump look rude and racist when he "interrupts a women of color"

I just heard that on the radio. She hasn't even been to the border and now she wants to finish it? Next thing you know, she'll say she's going to have Mexico pay for it!

She also wants Walz by her side during the debate.

 

[ulukinatme]

So Trump Vance say: $5000 credit. Harris says: We will do $6000

Trump says: Lets build a wall. Harris: 2015 to 2024 - that is racist and un American.... Now she wants to build a wall?

Wasn't there another Trump/Vance platform that she is trying to make her own ?

AND.....

Trump agrees to Harris team debate outline.... Now she wants to keep the mic's on and sit down? They only want the mic's on because it will make Trump look rude and racist when he "interrupts a women of color"

I wonder what the strategy is regarding them sitting? Trump is supposedly somewhere around 6'3", Kalama is almost a foot shorter at 5'4". Is the idea that he'll look like the stronger candidate due to the height difference if they're standing? Would standing in heels over the course of the debate be harder on her feet?

 

[StPaul_Irish]

I wonder what the strategy is regarding them sitting? Trump is supposedly somewhere around 6'3", Kalama is almost a foot shorter at 5'4". Is the idea that he'll look like the stronger candidate due to the height difference if they're standing? Would standing in heels over the course of the debate be harder on her feet?

I don't know but it's a good theory. It is a well known psychological phenomenon that being lower/under someone is a sign of submissiveness.

 

[ulukinatme]

I don't know but it's a good theory. It is a well known psychological phenomenon that being lower/under someone is a sign of submissiveness.

Biden made the rules for the first debate, right? Then it seems like both sides agreed to use the same rules and now Kamala's team wants to change things again. Her team said they didn't think Trump could remain Presidential for 90 minutes, hence why they want the mics on. Probably a good call on their part. Trump says he doesn't want to do it with ABC because of their bias, probably a fair point there as well.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Biden made the rules for the first debate, right? Then it seems like both sides agreed to use the same rules and now Kamala's team wants to change things again. Her team said they didn't think Trump could remain Presidential for 90 minutes, hence why they want the mics on. Probably a good call on their part. Trump says he doesn't want to do it with ABC because of their bias, probably a fair point there as well.

They so very clearly want a “excuse me I’m talking” moment because they know she absolutely has no substance to her.

 

[ab2cmiller]

 

[drayer54]

Trump will veto an abortion ban and now Kamala is pro wall!

 

[drayer54]

They literally spent two years trying to get two Senators to blow up the filibuster to rig elections. Gas lighting hard!

 

[GATTACA!]

Trump will veto an abortion ban and now Kamala is pro wall!

She said she supports the same bipartisan bill Biden was pushing that Trump selfishly killed because he's not serious about the border.

How is that a flip flop?

 

[drayer54]

She said she supports the same bipartisan bill Biden was pushing that Trump selfishly killed because he's not serious about the border.

How is that a flip

If you oppose it, then you don’t- that’s a flip flop. EV Mandate? Sex changes for prisoners? Red meat? Why can’t we just agree that she is hollow on the policy front? She’s pretty much just not Trump.

 

[GATTACA!]

If you oppose it, then you don’t- that’s a flip flop. EV Mandate? Sex changes for prisoners? Red meat? Why can’t we just agree that she is hollow on the policy front? She’s pretty much just not Trump.

That bill doesn't appropriate any new spending for the wall.

 

[drayer54]

That bill doesn't appropriate any new spending for the wall.

“If she's elected president, Kamala Harris pledges to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the wall along the southern border — a project she once opposed and called ‘un-American’ during the Trump administration.”

 

[GATTACA!]

“If she's elected president, Kamala Harris pledges to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the wall along the southern border — a project she once opposed and called ‘un-American’ during the Trump administration.”

"Harris advisers note that the bipartisan border proposal didn't include any new money to continue building the wall.

It just extended the timeline to spend funds that had been appropriated during Trump's last year as president, they say, although the legislation has new restrictions to ensure the money is spent on barriers."

 

[drayer54]

"Harris advisers note that the bipartisan border proposal didn't include any new money to continue building the wall.

It just extended the timeline to spend funds that had been appropriated during Trump's last year as president, they say, although the legislation has new restrictions to ensure the money is spent on barriers."

I guess the libs with the handshake all know the policies. The rest of us are supposed to vote for her to find out where she stands.

None seem to know her accomplishments though...

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Can someone explain to me how they can force someone to stay on a ballot? Is it because he didn't withdraw entirely? Can't pick and choose which states you stay on? Idk how that all works. On the surface, it seems like blatant election tampering/rigging. I'd like to know the specific rationale.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Can someone explain to me how they can force someone to stay on a ballot? Is it because he didn't withdraw entirely? Can't pick and choose which states you stay on? Idk how that all works. On the surface, it seems like blatant election tampering/rigging. I'd like to know the specific rationale.

I think some states have legal date deadlines for changes to the ballots because obviously altering the ballot does take time.

 

[Irish#1]

"Harris advisers note that the bipartisan border proposal didn't include any new money to continue building the wall.

It just extended the timeline to spend funds that had been appropriated during Trump's last year as president, they say, although the legislation has new restrictions to ensure the money is spent on barriers."

Regardless if this is new or already allocated funds, she's flip flopped on building the wall.

 

[NDVirginia19]

I think some states have legal date deadlines for changes to the ballots because obviously altering the ballot does take time.

The real quandary is the states that have legal challenges to kick off Stein and West from the ballots while refusing to let RFK JR off the ballot.

 

[drayer54]

Regardless if this is new or already allocated funds, she's flip flopped on building the wall.

Flip flopping implies she has a genuine position change. She really is just telling lies.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

The real quandary is the states that have legal challenges to kick off Stein and West from the ballots while refusing to let RFK JR off the ballot.

Right. That's why this "feels like" rigging. They know Stein/West votes steal from Kamala, and RFK's remaining block is stealing from Trump. So they're choosing ballot status accordingly.

 

[GATTACA!]

Regardless if this is new or already allocated funds, she's flip flopped on building the wall.

Saying she isn't going to mess with money that is already spent isn't the same thing as saying she now supports the wall. That's about as clickbaity as you can make a headline for the revelation that she supports the same bipartisan bill the administration she's a part of supports.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Saying she isn't going to mess with money that is already spent isn't the same thing as saying she now supports the wall. That's about as clickbaity as you can make a headline for the revelation that she supports the same bipartisan bill the administration she's a part of supports.

Why doesn't she just come out and say all the things she stands for or opposes? A legit interview with anyone who isn't tossing her softball questions? A clear stance on the major issues and her agenda? She's had 4 years to figure out what she plans or would do or wants to do. Even the most willfully blind Kamala fan girl has to admit that refusing to just state her agenda and stances is shady and almost certainly willfully deceptive. She knows that much of her actual agenda and stances would cost her votes in November, so she's hiding it from us. You wouldn't buy a product if the salesman wouldn't tell you what it was. Same situation here. So much for transparency and honesty.

 

[drayer54]

Why doesn't she just come out and say all the things she stands for or opposes? A legit interview with anyone who isn't tossing her softball questions? A clear stance on the major issues and her agenda? She's had 4 years to figure out what she plans or would do or wants to do. Even the most willfully blind Kamala fan girl has to admit that refusing to just state her agenda and stances is shady and almost certainly willfully deceptive. She knows that much of her actual agenda and stances would cost her votes in November, so she's hiding it from us. You wouldn't buy a product if the salesman wouldn't tell you what it was. Same situation here. So much for transparency and honesty.

Because the things she supports are considered radical and lack popular support. It landed her an early departure in the Iowa Caucus of 2020. Her radical views paired with her inability to speak are why she is avoiding the press. She “flip flopped” or abandoned her previously stated views once becoming the nominee through delegates. She has no substance and we are supposed to believe that she will continue to abandon those radical views if elected President.

 

[GATTACA!]

Why doesn't she just come out and say all the things she stands for or opposes? A legit interview with anyone who isn't tossing her softball questions? A clear stance on the major issues and her agenda? She's had 4 years to figure out what she plans or would do or wants to do. Even the most willfully blind Kamala fan girl has to admit that refusing to just state her agenda and stances is shady and almost certainly willfully deceptive. She knows that much of her actual agenda and stances would cost her votes in November, so she's hiding it from us. You wouldn't buy a product if the salesman wouldn't tell you what it was. Same situation here. So much for transparency and honesty.

Why bother? She's running against someone that doesn't talk any policy and people know from his last administration that most of what he does say is bullshit.

If she's going to win this election it's not going to be based off of converting people with policy positions. It will be by being the non geriatric unhinged lunatic candidate.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Wait, I thought the narrative on here was that RFK and his supporters were a bunch of Trump Lite crazies?

Turns out, per your Pew link (which is common fucking sense) that Biden-hating Dem voters learn of Biden dropping out, and move support to Kamala. Shocking.

I think RFK Jr. is a bit crazy. I can't speak to his supporters.

I'm more interested in the undecided voters, but at this point, I think this people are fucking idiots if they really do exist.