Post Game Observations (Florida State '14)

[Te'o4Heisman]

I never singled you out for how you felt before the game. But if you have a guilty conscience............

Somebody please, make it stop....

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

BC 2002 and USC 2005 are definitely up there too.

I'd put this in the same boat as the USC 2005 game: great game, good loss, and one play I will have nightmares about for years. Just like the USC 2005 game, we were in a position for that one play to not matter, and a great opponent was forced to do some pretty great things themselves to make it come down to one play. Also, much like the USC game, I am sure that the team who ended up winning this one will be forced to vacate their win sooner or later.

And just like the 2005 USC game I thought for several seconds that ND had won.

 

[kmoose]

Somebody please, make it stop....

If you go to User CP, under Settings and Options select Edit Ignore List. Type my name in the box, and click on OK. Then it will stop.

 

[connor_in]

OMFG...

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Saw this in the comments section of A new look at that controversial call during ND vs. FSU | Sports - WSBT.com It appears to be an FSU fan using it to mock those that think ND got hosed on THE CALL. The biggest take away I got is that a TON of people not usually in ND corner (some of whom probably actively dislike us), are all on our side!

 

[gkIrish]

If you go to User CP, under Settings and Options select Edit Ignore List. Type my name in the box, and click on OK. Then it will stop.

Your coping mechanism is very odd.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

If you go to User CP, under Settings and Options select Edit Ignore List. Type my name in the box, and click on OK. Then it will stop.

No, moose. He does not have to put you on ignore. You will stop with the condescension, or you'll get a week off.

This a community. Timing and tone are sometimes more important than the content of your posts. You're out of line here.

 

[arrowryan]

I honestly can't think if anything bad about Notre Dame's performance on Saturday. They played their hearts out and left everything on the field They showed everyone in the country that this team is for real and that they definitely deserve if a spot in the playoff if they win out.

There is no point in me talking about the penalty at the end of the game as I'm sure it's been talked about hundreds of times on here.

Everyone, including Florida State fans, knows who the better team was and who should've won that game.

I pray for a rematch in the playoffs. If we do get that rematch, I'm taking the Irish by at least 10 points.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

My biggest complaint was the screen call to Prosise at the end. A throw behind the LOS, and you have to burn a timeout if he doesn't get out. I would have rather seen a Folston run up the middle, if you're going to run a play that isn't a throw to the endzone.

Although it may have been more successful, there would be zero chance for ND to stop the clock in any manner other than a TO at the end of that play (Folston run up the middle). Had Prosise gotten to the sideline the clock would have stopped. In other words, that screen play had a chance to stop the clock w out burning the TO.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

I honestly can't think if anything bad about Notre Dame's performance on Saturday. They played their hearts out and left everything on the field They showed everyone in the country that this team is for real and that they definitely deserve if a spot in the playoff if they win out.

There is no point in me talking about the penalty at the end of the game as I'm sure it's been talked about hundreds of times on here.

Everyone, including Florida State fans, knows who the better team was and who should've won that game.

I pray for a rematch in the playoffs. If we do get that rematch, I'm taking the Irish by at least 10 points.

You are giving F$U fans far too much credit.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Someone has this friend, Donkey Richards . . .

 

[kmoose]

No, moose. He does not have to put you on ignore. You will stop with the condescension, or you'll get a week off.

This a community. Timing and tone are sometimes more important than the content of your posts. You're out of line here.

This is turning pretty personal. The guy indicated that he was tired of seeing my posts, so I simply explained to him how to put me on ignore. How is that condescending?

 

[IrishinSyria]

Although it may have been more successful, there would be zero chance for ND to stop the clock in any manner other than a TO at the end of that play (Folston run up the middle). Had Prosise gotten to the sideline the clock would have stopped. In other words, that screen play had a chance to stop the clock w out burning the TO.

Just to play devil's advocate

1: this is exactly why a run would have worked, Florida St was worried about a) protecting the endzone b) protecting the sidelines and c) rushing the passer

and

2: It's much easier (quicker) to get set back up after a run up the middle than off of a bubble screen.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

This is turning pretty personal.

I've never had to be this redundant and direct before, but then again, I've never seen a veteran poster gleefully trolling his fellow ND fans before, and then being willfully obtuse about what the problem is.

You have condescendingly patronized everyone in this thread who has disagreed with your odd emotional reaction to the loss. Telling someone to "Put me on ignore if you can't handle the straight talk" is just another form of that. I'm telling you, directly and for the umpteenth time, that what you are doing is a form of trolling, and it won't be tolerated anymore.

So limit your future comments to objective discussion of the game, or get ready for some time off. We can take this to PM if you'd like, but I won't be discussing this any further here.

 

[kmoose]

I've never had to be this redundant and direct before, but then again, I've never seen a veteran poster gleefully trolling his fellow ND fans before, and then being willfully obtuse about what the problem is.

You have condescendingly patronized everyone in this thread who has disagreed with your odd emotional reaction to the loss. Telling someone to "Put me on ignore if you can't handle the straight talk" is just another form of that. I'm telling you, directly and for the umpteenth time, that what you are doing is a form of trolling, and it won't be tolerated anymore.

So limit your future comments to objective discussion of the game, or get ready for some time off. We can take this to PM if you'd like, but I won't be discussing this any further here.

How about them Browns? Poor ACamp.......... this had to be one of the worst football weekends ever, for him.

 

[Guest]

Where do you get the required from? You have this whole explanation for the elements of an offensive pass interference which, as far as I can tell, has absolutely nothing to do with the official rules.

According to you, the elements of OPI are: 1) WR must initiate contact, 2)WR must move straight toward the defender, 3) WR must raise hands to the DB's jersey, and 4) WR must push backward.

None of that is in the rule book, but you keep on posting it with certainty so please, tell me where you get your definition of OPI from. My reading of the rules is that there is a very deliberate attempt to place a heightened burden on the offensive player for the very purpose of penalizing pick plays.

Because it is logic. (Ok so not required by rule, but required by any logically thinking person to apply the rule for this play - how about that?).

Explain to me how CJ was blocking when all of the three points I made were true? He could not be found to have the intent to block given the way the DB handled him, first.

 

[dang227]

Between the ND finish and then the Browns on Sunday it felt like someone spent all weekend kicking me in the balls


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[Guest]

No, moose. He does not have to put you on ignore. You will stop with the condescension, or you'll get a week off.

This a community. Timing and tone are sometimes more important than the content of your posts. You're out of line here.

Thank you.

 

[kmoose]

Because it is logic. (Ok so not required by rule, but required by any logically thinking person to apply the rule for this play - how about that?).

Explain to me how CJ was blocking when all of the three points I made were true? He could not be found to have the intent to block given the way the DB handled him, first.

CJ was not blocking, in my opinion.

 

[ACamp1900]

How about them Browns? Poor ACamp.......... this had to be one of the worst football weekends ever, for him.

I actually called the Jags loss right after the Steelers win... It was so very "Cleveland browns" of the Browns to do that...

but yeah...

 

[IrishinSyria]

Because it is logic. (Ok so not required by rule, but required by any logically thinking person to apply the rule for this play - how about that?).

Explain to me how CJ was blocking when all of the three points I made were true? He could not be found to have the intent to block given the way the DB handled him, first.

This is starting to get circular. I don't think CJ did anything wrong. By the rule, he is allowed to drive the DB back 3 yards. He did so, almost to the inch.

The issue is with Fuller. It's a close call. Certainly, the d-back could have done more to get around him and would have, if Florida St. didn't blow the coverage so bad. However, the rule is clear: the onus is on the offensive player to avoid contact. It's a shitty call and a shitty way to end the game, but it was a technically correct call.

Anyway, I don't want to belabor the point. It was a painful loss, but I like where we're sitting. If this team brings it for the rest of the season, I fully expect us to get another crack at the criminoles.

 

[kmoose]

I actually called the Jags loss right after the Steelers win... It was so very "Cleveland browns" of the Browns to do that...

but yeah...

Those a**holes. I actually picked Cleveland to win, in my pool, this week!!

 

[Cackalacky]

How about them Browns? Poor ACamp.......... this had to be one of the worst football weekends ever, for him.

I don't know what is going on kmoose, but this is downright disrespectful to Whiskeyjack and Acamp.

 

[Guest]

This is starting to get circular. I don't think CJ did anything wrong. By the rule, he is allowed to drive the DB back 3 yards. He did so, almost to the inch.

The issue is with Fuller. It's a close call. Certainly, the d-back could have done more to get around him and would have, if Florida St. didn't blow the coverage so bad. However, the rule is clear: the onus is on the offensive player to avoid contact. It's a shitty call and a shitty way to end the game, but it was a technically correct call.

Anyway, I don't want to belabor the point. It was a painful loss, but I like where we're sitting. If this team brings it for the rest of the season, I fully expect us to get another crack at the criminoles.

Np. It's all good. If you want my view on Fuller, then you can read the Video thread. There is plenty there to show that Fuller didn't interfere with the DB (and that the DB had no chance at the play anyway, and made no intent to get to the receiver in the flat either).

Cheers

 

[ickythump1225]

I actually called the Jags loss right after the Steelers win... It was so very "Cleveland browns" of the Browns to do that...

but yeah...

Man my Vikes were winning almost the whole game and then let Kyle Orton (!!!!!) beat them on a last second TD pass? We need a new o-line or Teddy is going to get destroyed.

 

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

I see ppl who dont watch much football still in denial lol. If you wanna know why ND lost, its because kelly is pass happy. ND ran 2 more times with RB's then fsu. Let that sink in. how dominate the run game was, how awful theirs was. Only 2 more times. Theres a reason fsu had the ball so much 2nd half. Kelly being Kelly.

 

[kmoose]

I don't know what is going on kmoose, but this is downright disrespectful to Whiskeyjack and Acamp.

How so?

 

[kmoose]

I see ppl who dont watch much football still in denial lol. If you wanna know why ND lost, its because kelly is pass happy. ND ran 2 more times with RB's then fsu. Let that sink in. how dominate the run game was, how awful theirs was. Only 2 more times. Theres a reason fsu had the ball so much 2nd half. Kelly being Kelly.

I think that the reason that Kelly went pass happy in the 3rd Quarter is that he was trying to put FSU in a bigger hole on the scoreboard. Force them to abandon the run so that your defense can focus on the pass, and anticipate what their offense is going to do on each play. I think he was really just trying to help the defense. That only works, though, if you either hold on to the ball for long drives, or score a lot. We didn't really do either, in the second half.

 

[Cackalacky]

I've never had to be this redundant and direct before, but then again, I've never seen a veteran poster gleefully trolling his fellow ND fans before, and then being willfully obtuse about what the problem is.

You have condescendingly patronized everyone in this thread who has disagreed with your odd emotional reaction to the loss. Telling someone to "Put me on ignore if you can't handle the straight talk" is just another form of that. I'm telling you, directly and for the umpteenth time, that what you are doing is a form of trolling, and it won't be tolerated anymore.

So limit your future comments to objective discussion of the game, or get ready for some time off. We can take this to PM if you'd like, but I won't be discussing this any further here.

How about them Browns? Poor ACamp.......... this had to be one of the worst football weekends ever, for him.

I don't know what is going on kmoose, but this is downright disrespectful to Whiskeyjack and Acamp.

How so?

You quoted Whiskeyjack and then made a completely irrelevant and off topic post purposefully dissmissing Whiskeyjack's request to have OT and meaningful dialogue. It is quite obvious that the intent of your post was to dismiss the leniency you have been shown by moderators all day and simultaneously be passive aggressive at a minimum. All of the members, mods included, deserve more respect than that.

 

[ACamp1900]

I see ppl who dont watch much football still in denial lol. If you wanna know why ND lost, its because kelly is pass happy. ND ran 2 more times with RB's then fsu. Let that sink in. how dominate the run game was, how awful theirs was. Only 2 more times. Theres a reason FSU had the ball so much 2nd half. Kelly being Kelly.

I think there may be something to this generally ... I am not a Kelly hater at all, and have many posts here clearly stating things like he's turned the program around and is the best coach since Holtz to prove it... but I have also always been hesitant to proclaim him 'the guy' like many have seemed to... I think a big part of that is his tendency to do what you point out...

Heck, maybe I was just raised in a Holtz run happy world...

 

[kmoose]

You quoted Whiskeyjack and then made a completely irrelevant and off topic post purposefully dissmissing Whiskeyjack's request to have OT and meaningful dialogue. It is quite obvious that the intent of your post was to dismiss the leniency you have been shown by moderators all day and simultaneously be passive aggressive at a minimum. All of the members, mods includeds, deserve more respect than that.

It was not intended to be that way. I was pretty riled up, and just processed "the game" as "the game of football". It was actually an attempt to be kind of light.