Post Game Impressions

[irishff1014]

Thanks but no thanks. He's our most experienced and most talented RB, and we need him right away for what are two of our biggest games of the season. After he serves his time I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's listed as the starter for MSU.

No Way. He thought of himself first and i agree he should earn his spot. He is very talented and has a good future ahead of him.

 

[koonja]

No Way. He thought of himself first and i agree he should earn his spot. He is very talented and has a good future ahead of him.

He will earn his spot. By serving is two games and being the best runningback on the roster. Not surprised if he gets the bulk of the load starting with MSU. When BK suspends a player, I doubt it's 'you are serving said-games and you're dropping 2 roster spots'.

 

[tadman95]

Whoever gives us us the best chance will start. Kelly isn't screwing around here, he plans on winning now.

If that's Cierre, so be it. If it's some one else, so be that. Kelly isn't even thinking about it right now, he's thinking about Purdue.

Anybody here the dummy from AP ask Kelly about Cierre for this week? Awkward moment for the reporter. Future ESPN star I think LOL

 

[irishff1014]

He will earn his spot. By serving is two games and being the best runningback on the roster. Not surprised if he gets the bulk of the load starting with MSU. When BK suspends a player, I doubt it's 'you are serving said-games and you're dropping 2 roster spots'.

I don't think he will lay down and give the starting spot away. I think he will come back with a strong will to do great thing the rest of the season.

 

[polishjuice4]

Cierre put together the 16th 1,000-yard season in Notre Dame history. I love the rest of our running backs but how many of them have 1000 yards rushing seasons. We will have a three headed monster at running back. Four if you count Amir (I would like him to redshirt). And a very sold number five in Cam.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

I mean, Cierre is gonna have to work to get in the rotation. But its not like he isnt practicing, and working hard in practice. Cierre will get his carries and everyone else will still get touches. If you watched the game yesterday, the ball was going to everyone.

and at Keunja - Shumate is a cornerback, so itd be a safety pushing him. Like Ive stated earlier...Navy is going to complete passes bc their whole offense is designed to not pass the ball so when they do its more than likely going to work lol. Secondary played well enough to hold them to 10pts. Ill take that any game we play lol.

 

[georgia irish]

I bet you GA111 has a higher ypc than Cierre at the end of the year, and if both are healthy GA111 outshines him against USC and OKLA.

 

[phgreek]

I'd make him earn the spot back. His backups put up good numbers. He crapped on the team in a moment of need. Don't hand it to him. Make him earn it.

Put less emphasis on Me and getting high.......Put more emphasis on Team and Us winning.

I gotta agree...he needs to get sprinkled in because he will be fresh, and he is a good back...but I'm comfortable with him getting maybe 20% of the reps to start, and if his productivity is better than the others, change the split...I have no doubt he'll move back up to the top because he is the best at picking up the blitz, and IMHO his vision is better...

but it wouldn't hurt my feelings to watch more theo trucking some dbacks and GAIII going all Rocket on people...that was fun to watch.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

Thanks but no thanks. He's our most experienced and most talented RB, and we need him right away for what are two of our biggest games of the season. After he serves his time I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's listed as the starter for MSU.

So getting this kid on the field immediately is more important than doing the right thing and showing the other student athletes that, "If I screw up, I may lose a game, but I'll be re-inserted into the starting role when I get back." What's the back up player's motivation? They did everything the right way. Cierre went out and burned some rope, got caught, and you're just going to throw him back in there? I don't think so.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Last year when we played tough teams Cierre disappeared and Gray was the man the man.I think GA111 will, being strong and fast be the one who stands out against USC andOKLA.

Bologna. Jonas Gray didn't even play against Stanford or Florida State. So the "tough teams" are? USC...Cierre Wood has more yards of offense. Michigan State? Cierre had two touchdowns. The USC game is moot because the Trojans came out and punched Notre Dame in the face and the OL didn't make space.

Cierre Wood's superiority is only increased if you're talking about running between the tackles. He's the most powerful back this team has.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

Bologna. Jonas Gray didn't even play against Stanford or Florida State. So the "tough teams" are? USC...Cierre Wood has more yards of offense. Michigan State? Cierre had two touchdowns. The USC game is moot because the Trojans came out and punched Notre Dame in the face and the OL didn't make space.

Cierre Wood's superiority is only increased if you're talking about running between the tackles. He's the most powerful back this team has.

No one is debating that... We're debating whether he should be re-inserted over kids that didn't break the rules and had great success against Navy. Why punish them when they weren't the ones smoking dope. Wake up.

 

[irishff1014]

Bologna. Jonas Gray didn't even play against Stanford or Florida State. So the "tough teams" are? USC...Cierre Wood has more yards of offense. Michigan State? Cierre had two touchdowns. The USC game is moot because the Trojans came out and punched Notre Dame in the face and the OL didn't make space.

Cierre Wood's superiority is only increased if you're talking about running between the tackles. He's the most powerful back this team has.

I woudl disagree that he is the most powerful back. He won't run over anyone the way that Theo or GAIII. Did the one down fall Wood has is he like to dance around to much.

 

[Riddickulous]

Theo and GAIII are both more powerful than Cierre.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

I woudl disagree that he is the most powerful back. He won't run over anyone the way that Theo or GAIII. Did the one down fall Wood has is he like to dance around to much.

Couldn't agree more.
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[BobD]

Yeah I love how we get heat for scoring a TD late in the game, yet you didn't hear anything on any sports shows about OKLA ST score being 84-0, and they scored with seconds left in the game. Talk about bad sportsman ship, I'm happy Kelly put it in again, why get lazy just because we had the lead.

I don't care if its 103 - 0, IMHO from the first play of the game till the last, on offense you play to score and on defense you play to stop them. This is tackle football....go all out, all the time, or go home. If I was on the losing team I'd be pissed and insulted if someone "took it easy" on me.

 

[irishff1014]

I don't care if its 103 - 0, IMHO from the first play of the game till the last, on offense you play to score and on defense you play to stop them. This is tackle football....go all out, all the time, or go home. If I was on the losing team I'd be pissed and insulted if someone "took it easy" on me.

I agree this isn't high school or pop warner here. Its not our fault that the other team can't make adjustments to stop us.

 

[aubeirish]

Well, this is a fun debate. Having this many good backs is a nice problem.

 

[stlnd01]

Well, this is a fun debate. Having this many good backs is a nice problem.

Yeah it is.
All three will get their touches but to suggest Wood has to earn his starting spot back is kind of silly. Riddick's solid and Atkinson may have better top-end speed, but Wood's our best all-around back, and if he does his time with a positive attitude, why wouldn't you start him? Besides being a tough guy between the tackles, he can take the corner and he can block, which is something the other two (as least as of yet) don't have much experience with.
But either way, I think we're going to run plenty this year. Three thousand-yard backs?

 

[Fbolt]

Just watched the game-always enjoy a W.

Thoughts:
-Golson had a Rees like performance in game 1. Hoping the staff allows him to do more against Purdue.
-I like that Ishaq was more prominent.
-Looking for the secondary to step it up. Obviously, the coaches will game plan for a pass happy offense like Purdue-should be a better indicator.
-We should beat Navy like stolen car. I believe week 2 will show us much more about the team such as the OL/DL. Are they as good as we think...?

 

[aubeirish]

Yeah it is.
All three will get their touches but to suggest Wood has to earn his starting spot back is kind of silly. Riddick's solid and Atkinson may have better top-end speed, but Wood's our best all-around back, and if he does his time with a positive attitude, why wouldn't you start him? Besides being a tough guy between the tackles, he can take the corner and he can block, which is something the other two (as least as of yet) don't have much experience with.
But either way, I think we're going to run plenty this year. Three thousand-yard backs?

Bringing back the wishbone? hehe

I think that Kelly has made it clear that we are going to see a lot of different people in that backfield and the slot position. It also gives us unbelievable flexibility for a situation where someone would have a bad game or whatever injury.

 

[RuntheBall]

My opinion on the RB matter (I know you all were dying for this...)

I think Wood is still the obvious #1. Reason being is I see GA3 and Theo being more of a change of pace back. They are really good. But are more productive in short spurts/ with less touches (for now). Durability is always an issue.

Fortunately, we can run the ball ALOT without the durability issue as CAM "MF" McDaniels in our #5 RB (assuming Carlisle is healthy / Theo is at RB). Thats amazing. We won't have anyone like LeVeon Bell (getting 50 + touches a game).

All of the guys (except maybe Cam) will get their touches. It will work itself out.

Note: I especially see GA3 as a guy who will have a bit of a productivity dropoff (this season) with a lot of touches. I'd prefer him to only get 10-ish touches as I think that is what will help the team the best.

 

[Fbolt]

so many RBs makes me concerned about allowing them to get into a rhythm.

 

[koonja]

So getting this kid on the field immediately is more important than doing the right thing and showing the other student athletes that, "If I screw up, I may lose a game, but I'll be re-inserted into the starting role when I get back." What's the back up player's motivation? They did everything the right way. Cierre went out and burned some rope, got caught, and you're just going to throw him back in there? I don't think so.

If he's served the suspension the head coach gives him, and in the coaches eyes helps the team when when he's done with his time, absolutely. Were you parading for Floyd to start last year on the bench??

 

[Buster Bluth]

No one is debating that... We're debating whether he should be re-inserted over kids that didn't break the rules and had great success against Navy. Why punish them when they weren't the ones smoking dope. Wake up.

They had great success against NAVY, not the good teams on this schedule.

I didn't see Kelly say the punishment was two games and not starting the rest of the season. Such a measure would be nothing short of idiotic, especially since the only people on this board who know exactly what the situation was referred to it as "comical."

I woudl disagree that he is the most powerful back. He won't run over anyone the way that Theo or GAIII. Did the one down fall Wood has is he like to dance around to much.

Wood breaks 3x the arm tackles that Theo does. If I had a nickle for every time Riddick was tackled by his shoelaces, I could make a major contribution for a new dormitory. But seriously, it happens more than it should. Cierre Wood is no bulldozer but he's tough as hell inside and outside. He's trucked more people than Theo or GA3. He dances, but he's a "north-south dancer" whereas Theo is an "east-west dancer" (GA3 is a north-south guy).

Simply saying, Wood is the best back on this team.

 

[Buster Bluth]

so many RBs makes me concerned about allowing them to get into a rhythm.

That's why the delusions people have of McDaniels getting many touches are ridiculous.

It's tough to get three guys solid touches, let alone adding Carlisle to the rotation.

 

[pkt77242]

I think Riddick will start the first game when Wood comes back (MSU) but there is a 50% chance that Wood will have the most carries by the end of the game.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

If he's served the suspension the head coach gives him, and in the coaches eyes helps the team when when he's done with his time, absolutely. Were you parading for Floyd to start last year on the bench??

he had to earn his spot back....He wasn't even reinstated to the team until late. Nice try.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

They had great success against NAVY, not the good teams on this schedule.

I didn't see Kelly say the punishment was two games and not starting the rest of the season. Such a measure would be nothing short of idiotic, especially since the only people on this board who know exactly what the situation was referred to it as "comical."



Wood breaks 3x the arm tackles that Theo does. If I had a nickle for every time Riddick was tackled by his shoelaces, I could make a major contribution for a new dormitory. But seriously, it happens more than it should. Cierre Wood is no bulldozer but he's tough as hell inside and outside. He's trucked more people than Theo or GA3. He dances, but he's a "north-south dancer" whereas Theo is an "east-west dancer" (GA3 is a north-south guy).

Simply saying, Wood is the best back on this team.

Again, I never said it was the rest of the season......I said he should earn his spot back and right now, he'd be #3 on the depth chart based on this past weeks play. Why would you punish Theo and GA3 by reinserting him following a suspension for burning the hippie lettuce??? Are you out of your mind? If you automatically insert him come Moo U week, what does that say to your team? Go burn a rope....bad on you. Serve your suspension and come back and take over. What does that say to the kids that are putting up numbers, doing their jobs on and off the field? So you're going to reward Cierre with a start off of suspension when he's burned his teammates already?

Stay out of my foxhole, Son.

 

[UmphreakDomer]

something must be said for the "time served", though.

ill be interested to see how riddick and ga3 are with blitz pick up next week. thats more telling than anything.

they can all run.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

HCTI - who the hell said Cierre was smoking dope? I am glad that you are back to making assumptions. Punish the Theo or GA3 for getting you're best RB on the field?! Please, you would be punishing the TEAM if he wasnt on the field for Mich St and Michigan. Man, some of you forget how good Cierre really is bc you have your first game blinders on. Sure Theo and GA3 had good games, but I'll go with a 1100 yard rusher who can and will do everything asked of him. Some of you are making it out to be like these kids dont want to see each other do well. Wake up. These are kids are more than football players and they actually can and are friends off the field believe it or not. Im 110% positive Theo isnt gonna bitch if Cierre comes back for msu and gets 15 carries, nor is GA3, and i guarentee Cierre isnt going to bitch if Theo/GA3 get 15 carries.