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[Cackalacky2.0]

While the NYT hasn’t been eager to cover it, NYC has been a hotbed for anti-semitic attacks for years now.

What does NYC have to do with nazis in Jacksonville?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

To trans people deadnaming is offensive, I don't see the benefit in doing that other than to be offensive. I don't think respecting someone's wishes to impede on your day-to-day activities, if it is though then sure I can see why someone would be upset. If you can't see how calling someone a groomer is offensive....then idk man.

If you're being fascist/transphobic/anti-science then you should expect to be called any of those things. Pretty sure I've been called a fascist commie on this site, and you know what? It doesn't bother me in the slightest because I know I'm not any of those things.

Personal experience or anecdotal evidence is the weakest form of any evidence. Because you don't experience something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I can't verify the data in that study either but the pushback on it shouldn't be because you don't see it that it doesn't exist.

Yeah. No everyone has hard core right winger family members chomping at the bit to spew their hate filled rhetoric for everyone to read like I do.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

What does NYC have to do with nazis in Jacksonville?

I’m going to go out on a limb and say there’s a good chance that the spread of anti-semetic rhetoric (which has never gone away) is fueled by social media and overall media coverage. This allows justification and communication between like minded individuals/gangs.

 

[drayer54]

Yeah. No everyone has hard core right winger family members chomping at the bit to spew their hate filled rhetoric for everyone to read like I do.

Sounds anecdotal

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Sounds anecdotal

It’s anecdotal in the fact that it’s my family members but looking at what they are posting and sharing and liking it’s much less anecdote and much more real that many people seem to be of the same mindset.

You see if they retweet or like something from someone that has tens of thousands of likes and retweet’s and it’s by a person that has tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of followers it’s not really anecdotal.

For example the articl posted by Elon today about Paul being drunk and hiring a gay escort which is who attacked him… that’s pretty much not anecdotal.

 

[sixstar]

To trans people deadnaming is offensive, I don't see the benefit in doing that other than to be offensive. I don't think respecting someone's wishes to impede on your day-to-day activities, if it is though then sure I can see why someone would be upset. If you can't see how calling someone a groomer is offensive....then idk man.

If you're being fascist/transphobic/anti-science then you should expect to be called any of those things. Pretty sure I've been called a fascist commie on this site, and you know what? It doesn't bother me in the slightest because I know I'm not any of those things.

Personal experience or anecdotal evidence is the weakest form of any evidence. Because you don't experience something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I can't verify the data in that study either but the pushback on it shouldn't be because you don't see it that it doesn't exist.

You are completely missing the point again.

All of those names are offensive if they are untrue. But only two of those names - deadnames and groomer - will result in account suspension per Twitter TOS. Accounts are not suspended for calling someone a fascist, science denier, or transphobic even if untrue.

And I never said that n word use wasnt on the rise. I said I haven't seen anything. However, I find it odd that WAPO jumped on that tweet. A small time Twitter account with limited posting history and zero data to backup their ambiguous graph. I would love to see how they came up with Twitter volume.

 

[sixstar]

It’s anecdotal in the fact that it’s my family members but looking at what they are posting and sharing and liking it’s much less anecdote and much more real that many people seem to be of the same mindset.

You see if they retweet or like something from someone that has tens of thousands of likes and retweet’s and it’s by a person that has tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of followers it’s not really anecdotal.

For example the articl posted by Elon today about Paul being drunk and hiring a gay escort which is who attacked him… that’s pretty much not anecdotal.

Post some receipts. Let's see your feed with these slanderous statements.

Any other Twitter users here seeing racial slurs? I'm just curious if this as systemic of a problem as cack says. One way to determine is to pool anecdotal experiences. So let's see it, IE members, who is experiencing cack's problem?

 

[drayer54]

I’m hearing that some people on the internet are mean and it is isolated to one side. Interesting

 

[TorontoGold]

You are completely missing the point again.

All of those names are offensive if they are untrue. But only two of those names - deadnames and groomer - will result in account suspension per Twitter TOS. Accounts are not suspended for calling someone a fascist, science denier, or transphobic even if untrue.

And I never said that n word use wasnt on the rise. I said I haven't seen anything. However, I find it odd that WAPO jumped on that tweet. A small time Twitter account with limited posting history and zero data to backup their ambiguous graph. I would love to see how they came up with Twitter volume.

What am I missing the point of?

X Terms of Service

Read X's Terms of Service to understand the rules governing your access of all Twitter services.

twitter.com

Ok so where in the TOS do they show what you say to be true?

 

[sixstar]

Twitter has suspended multiple high visibility accounts for deadnaming and calling organizations groomers. You already know this. And if you don't, you can Google. And Twitter has used their TOS as justification.

I've posted extensive proof to you in previous threads which you simply ignore, so do 90 seconds of due diligence and you will see this is true.

 

[TorontoGold]

Twitter has suspended multiple high visibility accounts for deadnaming and calling organizations groomers. You already know this. And if you don't, you can Google. And Twitter has used their TOS as justification.

I've posted extensive proof to you in previous threads which you simply ignore, so do 90 seconds of due diligence and you will see this is true.

Oh, so the TOS doesn't actually say it like you had previously said?

But only two of those names - deadnames and groomer - will result in account suspension per Twitter TOS.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I’m not going to post any of the stuff but all you have to do is type in the n word in the search bar and you can see all the wonderful people putting in their tweets. I’ll leave that up to you to obtain your own proof.

As an owner I absolutely will not give any air to that on this site.

 

[sixstar]

Dude, you have a hard time unless things are explicit for you, huh? You don't argue points on merit. You change the subject to deflect.

Here is an example: Twitter suspended Jordan Peterson for deadnaming Ellen Page citing violation of their TOS.

Here's another: Twitter suspended LibsOfTikTok for calling an organization a groomer on terms of harassment IAW their TOS.

This is all public knowledge.

You claim that conservatives aren't suppressed in SM. I've now given you two direct and recent examples.

Now, counter my point by giving me an example of Twitter suspending someone for calling someone a fascist, a science denier, or transphobic.

 

[sixstar]

I’m not going to post any of the stuff but all you have to do is type in the n word in the search bar and you can see all the wonderful people putting in their tweets. I’ll leave that up to you to obtain your own proof.

As an owner I absolutely will not give any air to that on this site.

Cop out. You can easily blur the name and the actual word.

You parroted a party line talking point posted by WAPO who linked an obscure Twitter account who posted an ambiguous graphic stating "sources have indicated that..." Without providing actual data.

You said your Twitter has been bad over the past few days. So let's see it. Copy and blur 3 posts from your past 24 hour timeline.

I continue to look at both the left and right accounts that I follow on Twitter. Still nothing. I just want to see some proof.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Cop out. You can easily blur the name and the actual word.

It’s not a cop out. I am a part owner of this site We are NOT going to post or allow those types of posts here on this site. All you have to do is type that word in the search bar in twitter. Knock yourself out.

Here is an excerpt from a Bloomberg article today going more in depthon the trends observed by people who get paid to monitor trends.

For hours on Thursday afternoon, a racist slur remained at a low volume on Twitter, with less than a dozen or so mentions every five minutes across the entire platform, according to data from Dataminr, a social media analysis platform. After the news broke that Musk had closed the deal on Twitter, there was a 1,300% increase in the word appearing on the platform in various languages, including Spanish, Arabic and Portuguese. At its peak, the word appeared 170 times every five minutes, according to the data.

Mentions of ivermectin, the deworming drug popular among those seeking alternative treatments for Covid-19 in spite of a lack of strong research to back it up, also shot up 2,900% on Twitter, peaking at 358 mentions every five minutes, according to Dataminr.

And mentions of “plandemic,” a shorthand for a conspiracy in which a shadowy cabal of elites were using the coronavirus pandemic and its vaccines to profit and gain power, increased.

On Friday, the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism said it had identified a coordinated effort to spread anti-Semitic content on Twitter, “explicitly drawing inspiration from Elon Musk’s takeover.” Over the past day, the group said, it identified over 1,200 tweets and retweets on the platform that spread anti-Semitic memes.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

 

[NorthDakota]

I’m not going to post any of the stuff but all you have to do is type in the n word in the search bar and you can see all the wonderful people putting in their tweets. I’ll leave that up to you to obtain your own proof.

As an owner I absolutely will not give any air to that on this site.

Followed your directions. I got a lot of Nigerian stuff, and a few accounts with a handful of followers putting up dumb tweets.

Decided to look into it further and... this.

Twitter employee:

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Followed your directions. I got a lot of Nigerian stuff, and a few accounts with a handful of followers putting up dumb tweets.

Decided to look into it further and... this.

Twitter employee:

That’s really interesting and wild. I literally got a bunch of people posting the word. Most American accounts some Russian some other languages but mostly account from the USA with hundred of followers. A literal list of hundreds of individual posters posting it with lots of likes and retweet’s sooooo.

From my article above
al on Twitter, there was a 1,300% increase in the word appearing on the platform in various languages, including Spanish, Arabic and Portuguese. At its peak, the word appeared 170 times every five minutes, according to the data.

That seems to contradict what your tweet said.

As of 15 minutes ago I saw hundreds of indivials posting that word in some form or fashion.

 

[sixstar]

This is better, cack. But you posted a Bloomberg article with Ivermectin misinformation. If that info is blatantly false, how can we trust the other statements?

Ivermectin has been through more studies with more patients than Remdesivir, Paxlovid, and molnipiravir, the three approved treatments, yet...

Mentions of ivermectin, the deworming drug popular among those seeking alternative treatments for Covid-19 in spite of a lack of strong research to back it up

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I’m moving on from this. Nothing good is gonna come out of it.

 

[sixstar]

I literally got a bunch of people posting the word. Or the word multiple times. A literal list of hundreds of individual posters posting it with lots of likes and retweet’s sooooo maybe dig a bit further.

From my article above
al on Twitter, there was a 1,300% increase in the word appearing on the platform in various languages, including Spanish, Arabic and Portuguese. At its peak, the word appeared 170 times every five minutes, according to the data.

That seems to contradict what your tweet said.

As of 15 minutes ago I saw hundreds of indivials posting that word in some form or fashion.

So just the word with no context?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

So just the word with no context?

Some yea. Hard R in every one but some were the entire tweet with all allowable characters of the word. Not black people saying the soft a. Hard Rs. Most were in a sentence slurring black people from accounts in America with hundreds of followers. Again. I’m done taking about this.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

So this is happening in Brazil. Sounds like Bolsanro has no intent of going quietly. He is doing what Trump tried to do. Bolsanro may be successful because he has people going along with him.

 

[Bishop2b5]

It’s actually quite hilarious that I had to remove the term “staff member” from my handle EXPLICITLY so that some posters on this forum could block me. Lol. I did so just so they wouldn’t have to worry about me agitating them without any protest.

These same people are in here liking others posts about free speech and both sides of the argument being allowed to have same access. Lol whatever. So goddamn funny

J... F... C... You have to be the most clueless, lacking in ANY self-awareness dolt I've ever encountered. You genuinely have no idea why so many people block you or roast you or make fun of you, do you?

 

[NorthDakota]

I literally got a bunch of people posting the word. Or the word multiple times. A literal list of hundreds of individual posters posting it with lots of likes and retweet’s sooooo maybe dig a bit further.

Looks like it depends on search term. I took the S off and got more hits.

The top hits that I see are (presumably) guys joking about the COD lobbies. Others are older and pre-Elon.

If I had to guess, we just got some weirdos from the 4chan/gaming communities meming now that Elon is officially the owner. At least i hope that is the case.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

J... F... C... You have to be the most clueless, lacking in ANY self-awareness dolt I've ever encountered. You genuinely have no idea why so many people block you or roast you or make fun of you, do you?

Why are you on a Notre Dame site calling Notre Dame fans names (an owner, no less) with no consequences? Are you gonna make a lame joke about the Y, now? You really need to be punched in the mouth.

 

[TorontoGold]

Dude, you have a hard time unless things are explicit for you, huh? You don't argue points on merit. You change the subject to deflect.

Here is an example: Twitter suspended Jordan Peterson for deadnaming Ellen Page citing violation of their TOS.

Here's another: Twitter suspended LibsOfTikTok for calling an organization a groomer on terms of harassment IAW their TOS.

This is all public knowledge.

You claim that conservatives aren't suppressed in SM. I've now given you two direct and recent examples.

Now, counter my point by giving me an example of Twitter suspending someone for calling someone a fascist, a science denier, or transphobic.

Changing the subject? Lil bro you said it's in the TOS, I couldn't find it in the TOS...so I guess that means I'm changing the subject lol.

They aren't suppressed, their message literally gets spread at a higher rate as I posted earlier. I'm not sure why you continue down this road.

 

[ulukinatme]

Why are you on a Notre Dame site calling Notre Dame fans names (an owner, no less) with no consequences? Are you gonna make a lame joke about the Y, now? You really need to be punched in the mouth.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Why are you on a Notre Dame site calling Notre Dame fans names (an owner, no less) with no consequences? Are you gonna make a lame joke about the Y, now? You really need to be punched in the mouth.

I dont pay him any attention any more. He has a massive hardon for me and while I’m flattered I just don’t think of him in that way.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

My little bubble? Lol. 👍 when people tell you who they are….. listen.

Yes, your little bubble. If your worldview is based on twitter and hashtags, it's a you problem. Broaden the sample size.

You took tweets you saw and didn't see from 23% of the US population then tried to paint it as the attitude of the entire country, which is insane and inaccurate. It would be equivalent to a teacher giving a test to 23% of the entire class and then telling everyone the average of the kids who took the test. It's not representative.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Yes, your little bubble. If your worldview is based on twitter and hashtags, it's a you problem. Broaden the sample size.

You took tweets you saw and didn't see from 23% of the US population then tried to paint it as the attitude of the entire country, which is insane and inaccurate. It would be equivalent to a teacher giving a test to 23% of the entire class and then telling everyone the average of the kids who took the test. It's not representative.

It’s interesting you think that is the only source of info I have. You keep on thinking that my friend.

But to address your point specifically I can get news from thousands of sources evwryday on twitter. It isn’t twitter that’s the source. Can’t believe I have to say this but here are.

I saw just today a person with millions of followers tweet out a conspiracy theory in response to Hillary calling people to publically call out violence against politicians.

The tweet has recently been deleted by the user without any reason why they removed it or why it was posted in the first place.