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Apparently anyone from the center to any direction on the right is an evil mean dirty tricker that HATE all the -sits Cack mentioned without any cognitive reason and would stand in the way of our President doing the right thing

Is that about right, Cack?

You know Conner.... The tone of this post is befuddling. I just read a dozen articles on this topic and every single one of them mentioned Republicans tactics to counter Obama and with all the important cases on the docket .... Just how important this selection would be if the Republicans would even allow it to occur. I can't help you think I hold some unsupported and unreasonable opinion on it when in fact the truth is right there whether you choose to acknowledge it. I apologize if you get upset at facts. I can't do a darn thing about it.
 

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Souter Shortlist:
Sotomayor
Kagen
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano,
California Supreme Court Justice Carlos Moreno,
Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm
Chief Justice Leah Ward Sears of the Georgia Supreme Court,
Judge Merrick B. Garland of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, and
Judge Ruben Castillo of the Federal District Court for the Northern District in Illinois

Stevens Shortlist:
Seventh Circuit Judge Diane Pamela Wood
Solicitor General Elena Kagan,
D.C. Circuit Judge Merrick B. Garland,
Ninth Circuit Judge Sidney Runyan Thomas,
former Georgia Chief Justice Leah Ward Sears,
Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm and
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

I don't know anyone on these lists but Napolitano. I can say definitively that there was not a single person in DHS/CBP/ICE that I ever worked with that had a single good thing to say about her... and moreover the off-the-record general consensus of people was something along the lines of "complete fucking moron."

So, I simply hope it isn't her.
 
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I don't know anyone on these lists but Napolitano. I can say definitively that there was not a single person in DHS/CBP/ICE that I ever worked with that had a single good thing to say about her... and moreover the off-the-record general consensus of people was something along the lines of "complete fucking moron."

So, I simply hope it isn't her.

Oh yeah.... I just posted the short lists so people could who was on them as both of his previous selections were on them. I believe there will be aces more new names on the short list. I think Elizabeth Warren could be. No info of course.
 
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Conn Carroll @conncarroll
What is less than zero? The chances of Obama successfully appointing a Supreme Court Justice to replace Scalia?
4:56 PM - 13 Feb 2016
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If anything this will put a full stop to all Obama judicial nominees going forward.
— Conn Carroll (@conncarroll) February 13, 2016
 
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I know you all will be shocked by this but McConnell, Cruz, Rubio, Trump, and republicans on the Judicary committee are all calling for a total blocking of any appointee by Obama claiming it should be done by the next president. You know, Just because .... No reason behind it. No constitutional argument. Just because.
 
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connor.... you should probably sit down for this:


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Justice Scalia was an American hero. We owe it to him, & the Nation, for the Senate to ensure that the next President names his replacement.</p>— Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) <a href="https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/698634625246195712">February 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Republicans have the power to run out the clock — but will they have the courage to do so?</p>— toddstarnes (@toddstarnes) <a href="https://twitter.com/toddstarnes/status/698638156715921408">February 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With Scalia gone, Senate must delay Obama Sup Ct nom till election.</p>— Craig Parshall (@CraigParshall) <a href="https://twitter.com/CraigParshall/status/698631668308045824">February 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Apparently theY are willing to go all the way till another conservative PRESIDENT IS ELECTED

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Conservatives need to delay appointment of a new judge till a conservative president is elected Justice Scalia dead <a href="https://t.co/h0UKU3YvkB">https://t.co/h0UKU3YvkB</a></p>— Prepper Silver (@PrepperSilver) <a href="https://twitter.com/PrepperSilver/status/698639780339392513">February 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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U.S. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell vowed to block President Barack Obama in his remaining months in office from replacing Antonin Scalia on the Supreme Court, a direct challenge to the White House that is certain to roil the 2016 presidential campaign.
“The American people‎ should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice,” McConnell, a Kentucky Republican, said in a statement shortly after Scalia’s death was made public. “Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.”
With some Republican lawmakers already lining up behind McConnell, Harry Reid, the Democratic leader in the Senate, quickly countered with a warning against trying to run out the clock on Obama’s presidency by holding up a replacement for Scalia, who was found dead Saturday at a resort in West Texas. He urged Obama to send a nomination to the Senate “right away.”
“It would be unprecedented in recent history for the Supreme Court to go a year with a vacant seat,” Reid said. “Failing to fill this vacancy would be a shameful abdication of one of the Senate’s most essential Constitutional responsibilities.”
Foreshadowing Fight
The ferocity of early reactions from McConnell and Reid, barely an hour after Scalia’s death became public, foreshadowed a bitter and bruising political fight over how to replace him, directly in the middle of the 2016 White House campaign.
One of the most reliably and outspoken conservative voices on the divided, nine-member high court, Scalia also counted among the five justices nominated by Republican presidents, while the remaining four are Democratic nominees.
Democrats have sought to use the potential for court vacancies as an election-year issue to encourage voter turnout, saying the next president likely will replace three justices on the aging court. They have warned that a Republican president could tip the court more heavily against women’s reproductive rights and campaign finance reforms they favor and in support of corporations.
Litmus Tests
Hillary Clinton, in her campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination, said earlier this month that she will have “a bunch of litmus tests” for the next nominee. “I’m looking for people who understand the way the real world works,” she said, and cited preferences for expanding gay rights, preserving abortion rights and reversing campaign finance decisions that allow unlimited campaign spending.
Scalia’s death changes the balance of the court to 4-4 – and upends the political dynamic now surrounding nominations. If Obama, who nominated two of the court’s current justices, both women, nominates a successor to Scalia, and the Senate confirms him or her it would make the court a 5-4 court of Democratic nominees.
And while Senate Democrats in 2013 triggered the so-called nuclear option -- dropping the thresholds to end filibusters for executive branch nominations and most judicial nominations to a simple majority -- they kept the threshold at 60 votes for Supreme Court picks. That move now could bite them because they will need 14 Republicans to cross party lines to confirm a nominee, which is highly unlikely.
Potential Nominee
One potential candidate is Sri Srinivasan, a 48-year-old federal appeals judge in Washington who would be the court’s first justice of Asian ancestry. A potential compromise is Srinavasan’s appeals court colleague, Merrick Garland, 63, whom Obama considered for Supreme Court openings in 2009 and 2010. At the time, Garland had support from prominent Republicans, including Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah.
More immediately, Scalia’s death greatly reduces the chances of major conservative victories in pending Supreme Court cases involving Obama’s immigration plan, abortion, affirmative action, mandatory union fees and voting rights.
Norm Ornstein, a congressional scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, said there’s "no way to compel" the Senate to let Obama get a vote on a potential successor. He said there also is no precedent for such a long delay in filling a Supreme Court vacancy.
According to a Congressional Research Service Report, since the Ford administration, the average number of days from nomination to the final Senate vote is 67 days. From 1789 to Elena Kagan’s 2010 confirmation, the Senate has confirmed 124 of 160 Supreme Court nominations, while six of the remaining 36 were later renominated and confirmed; 11 were rejected outright.
Republicans may be motivated to hedge their bets depending on both parties’ nominees and the general election prospects. If Obama nominates Srinivasan, who was confirmed 97-0 by the Senate in 2013, and the nominees are Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, Ornstein said, McConnell may decide it’s "better to confirm a relative moderate” than end up with a Democratic president and Senate.
There also is the risk for Republicans that Democrats win the White and a majority in the Senate in the November election resulting in the next justice being much more liberal than any consensus candidate Republicans could negotiate over this year.
Other experts said to brace for a difficult fight.
"This will be a tough confirmation battle—even assuming that the Obama White House gets a nominee vetted and announced swiftly," said Sarah Binder, a professor at George Washington University. "It’s been 25 years since the Senate was called on to confirm a nominee from a president of the opposing party. And partisan competition and antagonisms were far lower then compared to their heights of today."
Within minutes of the reports of Scalia’s death, conservatives began mobilizing to argue that President Barack Obama should not be allowed to appoint a successor.
"It would be wise for everybody to wait until the next president is chosen,” Hatch said Saturday on Fox News. "Seeing the type of judges that the president has appointed, there aren’t many Republicans who are going to differ with Majority Leader McConnell."
"What is less than zero? The chances of Obama successfully appointing a Supreme Court Justice to replace Scalia?" wrote Conn Carroll, a spokesman for Senator Mike Lee of Utah, a Republican member of the Judiciary Committee.
"The Republicans will certainty use this as an issue to stifle the president and stir up the campaign trail," said Princeton University professor Julian Zelizer. "Nor are they any mood to compromise on anyone other than a nominee that is politically impossible to oppose."
Zelizer is an expert on President Lyndon B. Johnson, who in 1968 tried to elevate Justice Abe Fortas to Chief Justice when Earl Warren announced he would resign - only to fail. "The Fortas example is an example of the problems a lame duck president can face with high stakes confirmation," Zelizer said.
If Republicans try to run out the clock, they would be testing history, said Angus Johnston, a historian and professor at CUNY, noting that the longest processor from nomination to resolution was that of Louis Brandeis at 125 days, less than half the time Obama has left as president.
Scalia’s death during the nominating contest raises the stakes among a still-wide field of Republican presidential candidates to take aggressive stances.
Senator Ted Cruz, a former Supreme Court litigator who has argued cases before Scalia, said in a statement that Scalia was “one of the greatest Justices in history” and had “single-handedly changed the course of legal history.” Cruz said Scalia had “fundamentally changed how courts interpret the Constitution and statutes, returning the focus to the original meaning of the text after decades of judicial activism.”
Ohio Governor John Kasich said Scalia was “an essential, principled force for conservative thought and is a model for others to follow.”
 
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I know you all will be shocked by this but McConnell, Cruz, Rubio, Trump, and republicans on the Judicary committee are all calling for a total blocking of any appointee by Obama claiming it should be done by the next president. You know, Just because .... No reason behind it. No constitutional argument. Just because.

I'm not shocked and it makes sense (for them) to do so. It's terrible that we feel the need to use the death of a man as an opportunity to further one's politics, but it isn't without precedent. With that being said, I'd be surprised if the Republicans can truly push off the nomination for a whole year. In fact, depending on how the Dem's primaries turn out, the Republicans may be rushing to finish the nomination as fast as they can.
 
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I'm not shocked and it makes sense (for them) to do so. It's terrible that we feel the need to use the death of a man as an opportunity to further one's politics, but it isn't without precedent. With that being said, I'd be surprised if the Republicans can truly push off the nomination for a whole year. In fact, depending on how the Dem's primaries turn out, the Republicans may be rushing to finish the nomination as fast as they can.

See... why does it make sense for them to do so? Presidents have always appointed SC justices... Now all of a sudden Obama needs to for some illogical reason bequeath his duty to someone else? Its ridiculous.

I mean Obama would be performing his constitutional duty and the Republican Senate would be blocking it for purely political reasons.

I mean the irony of saying that a President should not be allowed to perform his constitutional duty that is clearly spelled out in the constitution to replace a justice who was a literalist when it comes to the constitution.

Not one appointment has ever been filibustered. I think that streak comes to an end with this appointment.

I mean they dont even have a reason or a person to object yet except that it is Obama appointing another Justice.
 
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This just raises the stakes as far as the election. Going to make this more contentious and most definitely more fun to watch. Obama will certainly name someone. But unless it is a well regarded moderate, it will be tough to get them confirmed.
 

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See... why does it make sense for them to do so? Presidents have always appointed SC justices... Now all of a sudden Obama needs to for some illogical reason bequeath his duty to someone else? Its ridiculous.

I mean Obama would be performing his constitutional duty and the Republican Senate would be blocking it for purely political reasons.

...am I in the wrong thread? I thought that this was the politics thread.

Of course the seat must be filled, but the Republicans will want it filled by their man (or woman, but I doubt that). Whether that man be nominated by the next President, as they would like to hope they can make possible, or by Obama, they want the nominee to be the most palatable. If they can delay the nomination, perhaps they can get another conservative voice on the Supreme Court. If they cannot delay, then they will fight tooth and nail and perhaps get a more moderate liberal justice. The worst case scenario for them is to delay the nomination until the cards read a Bernie victory, because then they have no power.

I do not think that justice should be privy to politics, so please do not read my words as an endorsement of the tactics.
 
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...am I in the wrong thread? I thought that this was the politics thread.

Of course the seat must be filled, but the Republicans will want it filled by their man (or woman, but I doubt that). Whether that man be nominated by the next President, as they would like to hope they can make possible, or by Obama, they want the nominee to be the most palatable. If they can delay the nomination, perhaps they can get another conservative voice on the Supreme Court. If they cannot delay, then they will fight tooth and nail and perhaps get a more moderate liberal justice. The worst case scenario for them is to delay the nomination until the cards read a Bernie victory, because then they have no power.

I do not think that justice should be privy to politics, so please do not read my words as an endorsement of the tactics.
???? I said they are blocking it for purely political reasons. Not on merit. Not even on the nature of the candidate and their qualifications. But blocking it purely because they don't want Obama to have another appointee. That is bullshit no matter how you rationalize it. And as I said earlier, they will use every trick in t he book to accomplish it.

Per the Constitution the Senate does not get to have their man. They only get a say as a check against the President. These Republicans now though do not follow decorum and restraint typically shown previous presidents. Their unreaosnableness is destructive.
 

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???? I said they are blocking it for purely political reasons. Not on merit. Not even on the nature of the candidate and their qualifications. But blocking it purely because they don't want Obama to have another appointee. That is bullshit no matter how you rationalize it. And as I said earlier, they will use every trick in t he book to accomplish it.

Per the Constitution the Senate does not get to have their man. They only get a say as a check against the President. These Republicans now though do not follow decorum and restraint typically shown previous presidents. Their unreaosnableness is destructive.

Obama is performing his duty, and the GOP is performing theirs, which is to consent to his nominee if they want to. They don't have to.

As for blocking people for "purely political reasons," what would you call the Democrats blocking the Bork nomination? That is what set all of this off. The Supreme Court is a super-legislature, and it is irresponsible to not consider "politics" (i.e., how a judge is likely to vote) when assessing a nominee.
 

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???? I said they are blocking it for purely political reasons. Not on merit. Not even on the nature of the candidate and their qualifications. But blocking it purely because they don't want Obama to have another appointee. That is bullshit no matter how you rationalize it. And as I said earlier, they will use every trick in t he book to accomplish it.

Per the Constitution the Senate does not get to have their man. They only get a say as a check against the President. These Republicans now though do not follow decorum and restraint typically shown previous presidents. Their unreasonableness is destructive.

This is where partisan politics leads us. It certainly is not good, but you'll have a hard time convincing either party to make the first step away from this brinksmanship.
 
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Obama is performing his duty, and the GOP is performing theirs, which is to consent to his nominee if they want to. They don't have to.

As for blocking people for "purely political reasons," what would you call the Democrats blocking the Bork nomination? That is what set all of this off. The Supreme Court is a super-legislature, and it is irresponsible to not consider "politics" (i.e., how a judge is likely to vote) when assessing a nominee.
Revisonist history here. Bork was unconfirmed for many reasons after he was nominated and went through the process. Not before he was even a candidate. Try again. They dont care how his appointee would vote. They are going to block ANY appointee regardless.

This scenario is unheard of in American History. The longest anyone was unconfirmed is 125 days. These jokes are planning to go on indefinitely for no reason other than..."Thanks Obama".
 
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This is where partisan politics leads us. It certainly is not good, but you'll have a hard time convincing either party to make the first step away from this brinksmanship.

No. This is where the amalgamation of Bill Krystal'sand Grover Norquist's strategy/policy of obstructionism leads. No Democrat Senate has done anything close to what the Republicans have done the last 8 years.
 

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No. This is where the amalgamation of Bill Krystal'sand Grover Norquist's strategy/policy of obstructionism leads. No Democrat Senate has done anything close to what the Republicans have done the last 8 years.

When has partisan politics in America ever been so bad as the past 8 years? The only example that comes to mind was immediately prior to the Civil War.
 

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You guys want to see some sick shit? Go on any liberal website right now and read the comment section. Gawker is particularly brutal.

I can never quite get over the party of "tolerance and acceptance" being the most ruthless with hate and name calling of anyone who disagrees with them. People are openly celebrating his death.
 

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Revisonist history here. Bork was unconfirmed for many reasons after he was nominated and went through the process. Not before he was even a candidate. Try again. They dont care how his appointee would vote. They are going to block ANY appointee regardless.

This scenario is unheard of in American History. The longest anyone was unconfirmed is 125 days. These jokes are planning to go on indefinitely for no reason other than..."Thanks Obama".

First of all, there is no question how an Obama nominee would vote. The Democrats are much better than the GOP at finding ideologues to fill judgeships.

Second, you argued that nominees have to be rejected on "merit," not "politics." Now you just want a hearing? You'd be content if the Senate voted down the nomination of whatever lefty lawyer Obama sends over? Because that would be done for political reasons, too.

As for Bork, Ted Kennedy was on the floor of the Senate bashing him before hearings started. Our current VP led the charge to defame him (a warm-up act for the defamation of Clarence Thomas several years later). The GOP doesn't owe the Democrats anything when it comes to nominations.

As for American history, we all know what liberals do when the courts go against them. The last time liberals were consistently upset by the Supreme Court was in the 1930s. And what happened? They threatened the court repeatedly and replaced the judges with people who would vote they way they wanted. It's all "politics"- which is as it should be. No different now.
 
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When has partisan politics in America ever been so bad as the past 8 years? The only example that comes to mind was immediately prior to the Civil War.

I agree. The Congresses from 1850s-1880s was especially violent. That speaks volumes saying that it has not been as divided as that since then. But even then they did not use procedural and legislative maneuvers to inhibit the sitting president's agenda.
 

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I agree. The Congresses from 1850s-1880s was especially violent. That speaks volumes saying that it has not been as divided as that since then. But even then they did not use procedural and legislative maneuvers to inhibit the sitting president's agenda.

I wish I could rep you, but I must spread some first.

However, on your second part, where does nullification fit into this?
 

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You guys want to see some sick shit? Go on any liberal website right now and read the comment section. Gawker is particularly brutal.

I can never quite get over the party of "tolerance and acceptance" being the most ruthless with hate and name calling of anyone who disagrees with them. People are openly celebrating his death.

I see no more problem celebrating his death than in celebrating bin Laden's death: there should be no celebrating.

Clearly there is no comparison in the acts between Scalia and bin Laden, but when people are taught that killing a bad guy (bin Laden) is good, then a few years later and a few more years to steep in the political rhetoric of our time leads to this.

What can we do to fix this problem?
 
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First of all, there is no question how an Obama nominee would vote. The Democrats are much better than the GOP at finding ideologues to fill judgeships.

Second, you argued that nominees have to be rejected on "merit," not "politics." Now you just want a hearing? You'd be content if the Senate voted down the nomination of whatever lefty lawyer Obama sends over? Because that would be done for political reasons, too.

As for Bork, Ted Kennedy was on the floor of the Senate bashing him before hearings started. Our current VP led the charge to defame him (a warm-up act for the defamation of Clarence Thomas several years later). The GOP doesn't owe the Democrats anything when it comes to nominations.

As for American history, we all know what liberals do when the courts go against them. The last time liberals were consistently upset by the Supreme Court was in the 1930s. And what happened? They threatened the court repeatedly and replaced the judges with people who would vote they way they wanted. It's all "politics"- which is as it should be. No different now.

First of all, no we don't know. If Sri is appointed, we really dont know any of his positions. He is hghgly thought of in many circles and on both sides of the ailse but the R's dont care. Does not matter.

I am saying they need to follow the process in the Constitution which I assume we all want. They are not doing that. They won't even allow a discussion on the merit of the appointee to be had. Never has that occurred. Don't spin my words. I clearly said this is all political and not argued based on merit as Bork was regardless of the political theater rather than this extremist and destructive action.

No matter what Kennedy did, Bork went through the process and was rejected in a close vote. He was rejected ultimately because his temperament and his inconsistent interpretation of the Constitution even though he was an originalist.

Your last statement is incoherent. Every judge appointed before was done so according to the Constitutional process and was vetted and confirmed by the Senate. Regardless of who was appointed, the judges were allowed the process and their merits debated. Unlike these republicans which are hijacking the process out of pure petulance and thier own barely restrained born again facism.
 

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You guys want to see some sick shit? Go on any liberal website right now and read the comment section. Gawker is particularly brutal.

I can never quite get over the party of "tolerance and acceptance" being the most ruthless with hate and name calling of anyone who disagrees with them. People are openly celebrating his death.

Maybe they should be reminded of that old marker on gravestones...'Prepare to Follow.'
 
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You guys want to see some sick shit? Go on any liberal website right now and read the comment section. Gawker is particularly brutal.

I can never quite get over the party of "tolerance and acceptance" being the most ruthless with hate and name calling of anyone who disagrees with them. People are openly celebrating his death.

Not condoning this at all but to many on the left this guy was an intellectual monster. Not my words. His responses in his dissents and affirmations, specifically about gays and blacks are particularly demeaning.
 

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First of all, no we don't know. If Sri is appointed, we really dont know any of his positions. He is hghgly thought of in many circles and on both sides of the ailse but the R's dont care. Does not matter.

Obama is not appointing him without knowing his positions. He has said he wants nominees who "know what it is like to be or poor, gay, or a single mother..." etc. He specifically does not want nominees who know what it is like to be Christian, or a gun-owner, or a taxpayer. He has his litmus tests, and he would not nominate anybody who doesn't meet them.

I am saying they need to follow the process in the Constitution which I assume we all want. They are not doing that. They won't even allow a discussion on the merit of the appointee to be had. Never has that occurred. Don't spin my words. I clearly said this is all political and not argued based on merit as Bork was regardless of the political theater rather than this extremist and destructive action.

The Senate does not have to allow anything. They are not disobeying the Constitution by not acting. They have to consent. If they don't consent, Obama doesn't get what he wants. Simple as that.

No matter what Kennedy did, Bork went through the process and was rejected in a close vote. He was rejected ultimately because his temperament and his inconsistent interpretation of the Constitution even though he was an originalist.

So you wouldn't complain if Obama's lefty lawyer went through the process, and was rejected for political reasons, and the same to anyone else he nominated before the election?
that is being done with out merit or logical reasoning.

Your last statement is incoherent. Every judge appointed before was done so according to the Constitutional process and was vetted and confirmed by the Senate. Regardless of who was appointed, the judges were allowed the process and their merits debated. Unlike these republicans which are hijacking the process out of pure petulance and thier own barely restrained born again facism.

You think the Bork hearings were about his "merits"? He was a Yale law professor and a well-regarded scholar. The issue was that his view of the Constitution would not produce the policy results liberals want. You think the Thomas hearings were about "merits"? They were an attempt to defame him, and very nearly successful.

We won't agree; I'm just explaining to you why I don't care much about Democrats whining. Just between the Bork and Thomas hearings, we've heard about enough from them.
 
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Obama has proven he will do it what he wants and not what's best. Just like he has proven when he wants to say something he does. He is so unamerican it isn't funny. We're almost done with this piece of shit.
 

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Not condoning this at all but to many on the left this guy was an intellectual monster. Not my words. His responses in his dissents and affirmations, specifically about gays and blacks are particularly demeaning.

It was 'demeaning'? He is writing law, not motivational posters for elementary schools. Much of what he said in his dissents on "gay rights" issues came to pass. In 2003 he predicted that same-sex marriage would be imposed on the country. What a lunatic!

As for his "responses" about blacks, I assumed you are referring to the episode late last year when he cited the considerable statistical evidence that affirmative action beneficiaries are 'mismatched' when placed in environments for which they are not academically qualified. It seems pretty intuitive that people would struggle academically when they are admitted to some school because of their race, and not because they are smart enough to get in. As I recall, in the controversy that followed liberals did not seek to reply with evidence, but chose to generally point-and-sputter.
 
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Obama is not appointing him without knowing his positions. He has said he wants nominees who "know what it is like to be or poor, gay, or a single mother..." etc. He specifically does not want nominees who know what it is like to be Christian, or a gun-owner, or a taxpayer. He has his litmus tests, and he would not nominate anybody who doesn't meet them.



The Senate does not have to allow anything. They are not disobeying the Constitution by not acting. They have to consent. If they don't consent, Obama doesn't get what he wants. Simple as that.



So you wouldn't complain if Obama's lefty lawyer went through the process, and was rejected for political reasons, and the same to anyone else he nominated before the election?



You think the Bork hearings were about his "merits"? He was a Yale law professor and a well-regarded scholar. The issue was that his view of the Constitution would not produce the policy results liberals want. You think the Thomas hearings were about "merits"? They were an attempt to defame him, and very nearly successful.

We won't agree; I'm just explaining to you why I don't care much about Democrats whining. Just between the Bork and Thomas hearings, we've heard about enough from them.

Experts sound off once again on Justice Thomas' silence
 

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Obama has proven he will do it what he wants and not what's best. Just like he has proven when he wants to say something he does. He is so unamerican it isn't funny. We're almost done with this piece of shit.

Your posts in this thread are consistently unintelligent and rarely address anything in particular. It's hard to take you seriously when you lower yourself to this type of discourse.
 
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