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  • Obama

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Romney

    Votes: 172 48.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 46 13.1%
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    Votes: 130 36.9%

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GoIrish41

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Always a smartass.

Having sex is a CHOICE. CHOICES have consequences, and if it ends up in pregnancy so be it. Then take responsibility for the CHOICE you already made.

Yeah, most 16-year-olds make responsible decisions about sex. The ones who don't should be punished for life for making a dumb decision at age 16. You are right.
 

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A child is not a punishment... Talk about a terrible quote by a politician... Just as bad as people like myself don't build things or make their own way without being indebted to the government............



;)
 

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Quotes are fun when they're not really quotes.... I see why you like them so GI
 

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A child is not a punishment... Talk about a terrible quote by a politician... Just as bad as people like myself don't build things or make their own way without being indebted to the government............



;)


there is no talking with him.


I know plenty of people who were offended and stunned by that one.
 

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What percentage of the country wanted the health care bill to pass??

About 40 percent like 40 percent hate it. 20 percent are not so sure. Most people don't have clue what's in it.

I have my own concerns and criticisms about ACA although my issues are probably a lot different than most those that are sacred to death of the words government and health care in the same sentence. Quite frankly their is a lot of things I need to see before I judge it.

There is a lot of things I like about it. No denial of pre-existing conditions, tax subsidies to lower to mid-lower income individuals families that either do not have employer coverage or coverage over 9.8 percent of their income, and tax credits for small businesses to help them get coverage for their employees.
 
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About 40 percent like 40 percent hate it. 20 percent are not so sure. Most people don't have clue what's in it.

I have my own concerns and criticisms about ACA although my issues are probably a lot different than most those that are sacred to death of the words government and health care in the same sentence. Quite frankly their is a lot of things I need to see before I judge it.

There is a lot of things I like about it. No denial of pre-existing conditions, tax subsidies to lower to mid-lower income individuals families that either have employer coverage or coverage over 9.8 percent of their income, and tax credits for small businesses to help them get coverage for their employees.

Forgot to post opinion poll

NationalJournal.com - Public Opinion Stays Static on Affordable Care Act - Wednesday, March 20, 2013
 

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I'm not a politician. And when you are poor, 16, and give birth to an unwanted child that may feel a little bit like a punishment.

I teach and manage registration for a college that caters to second chance adults, most of whom had children while in their teens, I can assure not one of my students view their child in such ways...
 

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I'm not a politician. And when you are poor, 16, and give birth to an unwanted child that may feel a little bit like a punishment.

Yup, instead of taking responsibility for your actions its is better just to kill it.

Sounds good to me!
 

chicago51

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About 40 percent like 40 percent hate it. 20 percent are not so sure. Most people don't have clue what's in it.

I have my own concerns and criticisms about ACA although my issues are probably a lot different than most those that are sacred to death of the words government and health care in the same sentence. Quite frankly their is a lot of things I need to see before I judge it.

There is a lot of things I like about it. No denial of pre-existing conditions, tax subsidies to lower to mid-lower income individuals families that either have employer coverage or coverage over 9.8 percent of their income, and tax credits for small businesses to help them get coverage for their employees.

Forgot to post opinion poll

NationalJournal.com - Public Opinion Stays Static on Affordable Care Act - Wednesday, March 20, 2013
 

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Yup, instead of taking responsibility for your actions its is better just to kill it.

Sounds good to me!

You always seem to be having a different argument than me. I am not commenting on the morality of abortion. I simply pointing out the undeniable fact that 16 year olds don't make good decisions about sex.

Hey, just because you couldn't get laid at 16 doesn't mean everyone else made that decision ;)
 

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Yup, instead of taking responsibility for your actions its is better just to kill it.

Sounds good to me!

Abortion is a sticky issue for me. Personally I would encourage a friend or family to have the child. Personally I don't think big government is appropriate in this area.

However if people want to be self righteous I respect that if they are consistent.

Any Republican that thinks they are the party of Christianity needs to read Matthew 25:31-46 and I don't how you can claim to be doing God's work and support Paul Ryan's budget. Ryan's budget and Matthew 25: 31-46 are two totally conflicting ideas.
 

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Abortion is a sticky issue for me. Personally I would encourage a friend or family to have the child. Personally I don't think big government is appropriate in this area.

However if people want to be self righteous I respect that if they are consistent.

Any Republican that thinks they are the party of Christianity needs to read Matthew 25:31-46 and I don't how you can claim to be doing God's work and support Paul Ryan's budget. Ryan's budget and Matthew 25: 31-46 are two totally conflicting ideas.

Maybe we view 'forced' charity as no charity at all?

I'd rather my money go to charitable organizations than the federal government. :)

Another area where conservatives and liberals differ, and who is more likely to donate time and money to causes other than politics.
 

GoIrish41

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I teach and manage registration for a college that caters to second chance adults, most of whom had children while in their teens, I can assure not one of my students view their child in such ways...

I'm not saying that I agree with the teens who feel that having a baby is a punishment, I'm simply stating that they do. The women at your college had their babies. Ask some of the girls who didn't.
 

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Always a smartass.

Having sex is a CHOICE. CHOICES have consequences, and if it ends up in pregnancy so be it. Then take responsibility for the CHOICE you already made.

Shockingly if our schools don't teach them about safe sex (thank you Bush) and the parents do their usual ****** jobs at it (look at the studies, parents on average do a poor job of discussing sex with their children) then we are setting them up to fail. It is hard to make an informed intelligent decision when you don't know any better especially as a teenager. Your post is that of someone who is older, try to remember what it was like at 16.
 

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Shockingly if our schools don't teach them about safe sex (thank you Bush) and the parents do their usual ****** jobs at it (look at the studies, parents on average do a poor job of discussing sex with their children) then we are setting them up to fail. It is hard to make an informed intelligent decision when you don't know any better especially as a teenager. Your post is that of someone who is older, try to remember what it was like at 16.

Well it was only 5 years ago so it isn't too hard to 'remember back when' hahah
 
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I am giving a shout out to Starbucks CEO for saying we need to raise the minimum wage!

Starbucks CEO Comes Out In Favor Of A Minimum Wage Increase | ThinkProgress

Minimum wage increases hurt small businesses much more than massive corporations. Small businesses are trying to get off the ground, so the more expensive corporations can make it for them, the better. Huge corporations will increase their marketshare and not hire more or less (they have the wherewithal for automation) every time.

How is this so difficult to understand?
 

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Minimum wage increases hurt small businesses much more than massive corporations. Small businesses are trying to get off the ground, so the more expensive corporations can make it for them, the better. Huge corporations will increase their marketshare and not hire more or less (they have the wherewithal for automation) every time.

How is this so difficult to understand?

What if we did the minimum wage increase but gave business with less than 5000 employees a break on the payroll tax? That was part of American Jobs Act which isn't going anywhere fast but couldn't we package that part of the AJA with a minimum wage increase?
 
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What if we did the minimum wage increase but gave business with less than 5000 employees a break on the payroll tax? That was part of American Jobs Act which isn't going anywhere fast but couldn't we package that part of the AJA with a minimum wage increase?

Perhaps. I don't know enough about it to judge that specifically.

It just really dawned on me though that we should really be trying to get a progressive tax structure for business taxes too.
 

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Perhaps. I don't know enough about it to judge that specifically.

It just really dawned on me though that we should really be trying to get a progressive tax structure for business taxes too.

How is that not already in place?!?! That seems like a no brainer IMO.
 

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Perhaps. I don't know enough about it to judge that specifically.

It just really dawned on me though that we should really be trying to get a progressive tax structure for business taxes too.


I agree with this.

The tax structure is terrible for starting a business. We have this high corporate tax rate which I'll admit the left is largely to blaim for. Even with the high tax rates the Mega Corps have all these loopholes that they can knock their effective tax rates down to insanely low levels leading all the small business and higher income earners like doctor, lawyers, celebrities, etc to fit the bill.

If we did something like this we may see more splits and less mergers. Less "too big to fails" more competition based the increased number of competitors.
 

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Perhaps. I don't know enough about it to judge that specifically.

It just really dawned on me though that we should really be trying to get a progressive tax structure for business taxes too.

Well, then companies would just restructure through subsidiaries or spin-offs to avoid the tax. Or they would avoid it by loading up with debt or capEx.

And note this only applies to C-corps -- partnerships, LLC's, etc. are already taxed at the individual "progressive" level.

In theory, helping small businesses compete with large (or at least survivve) is what the SBA is for. (I know, hard to believe a federal agency isn't noticably doing its job...)
 

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What if we did the minimum wage increase but gave business with less than 5000 employees a break on the payroll tax? That was part of American Jobs Act which isn't going anywhere fast but couldn't we package that part of the AJA with a minimum wage increase?

So, to offest the cost of the higher wages to the business owner, you would want the government to completely offest the wage increase by lowering payroll taxes? How is that not a government sponsored transfer of wealth? Wouldn't it be easier to just give another "earned income" credit to those earning minimum wage? The impact would be the same.

I really suggest taking a different look at jobs. Instead of looking as what does the job give the worker, look at it as what does the worker give the employer? The employee should be creating value and will be payed based on the value he/she creates. If you are in a job that creates little value, or you as the worker can be easily replaced, why should you be payed more? Perhaps people should focus on how they can create value.

Finally, I know few major CEO's who comment on political issues if their company would not be impacted. In this case, Starbucks knows it is in better shape to keep costs down and margins high even if costs increase. Besides, I think most of their lower hourly workers earn about $9 an hour. So, an increase may not impact them much.
 

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So, Senate removes tax that was put in place to fund Obamacare:

Senate Votes Against Key Health-Law Tax - Yahoo! Finance

Also, insurers warn small business thay are in for some hefty premium increases.

Health Insurers Warn on Premiums - Yahoo! Finance

The new law caps how much more plans can charge a smoker, the obese, or based on age, and makes some mandatory coverage and eligibility requirements, so at the end of the day the Feds are making everyone pay more for bigger plans that subsidize the high-risks.

So everyone in the country will probably see around a 30% premium increase. The low-risks or people who like High Deductible Plans could see their prices double or triple.
 
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