Politics

[Quinntastic]

Oh please. Why am I suppose to care what Romney does with his money? Free Trade is the most efficient way to produce a good. It is all about comparative advantage, and efficiency.

If the people in China can produce a good for less than America can, THEY SHOULD BE THE ONES PRODUCING IT. Are you also upset that machinery is putting more Americans out of work? How about different technological improvements? Guess what, those machines now employ people who build them and perform maintenance.

What is more American, a Camaro that is built in Canada, or the BMW that is built in South Carolina?

1.) Why are you supposed to care what Romney does with his money? You can't be serious. How about, because how he handles his own money is going to play a role in how he handles MY tax money. Also, if he handles his money by hiding it off-shore accounts to get out of paying taxes on it, THAT IS A PROBLEM FOR ME. Not just on the criminal level, but on the ETHICAL level. I want an *ethical* president. And Mitt Romney is the antithesis of ethical. I pay 19% taxes as a single parent making 50K a year with a Bachelor's degree. How is it right that Mitt Romney makes MILLIONS and pays LESS in taxes? Does any of that money trickle down? Does he do any HIRING with that money? FALSE. Instead, he takes jobs away from people to get himself MORE money. The man is a crook!

2.) You can't, out of one side of your mouth, say that Mitt Romney's first priority should be jobs because unemployment is the problem in this country, and then out of the OTHER side of your mouth say that China is in the right for putting Americans out of work by producing things cheaper (because their citizens are willing to work for pennies on the dollar). You can't have it both ways when the major unemployment sector in this country is manufacturing (because clowns like Mitt Romney let American jobs hemorrhage out to other countries to make himself more money).

3.) Mitt Romney denies doing any work for Bain during their criminal years, but yet was signed on as CEO for that entire time (and receiving a 6 figure salary). He says he was just a name on the page, and wasn't actually involved in any decisions. Yet he ALSO loves taking credit for all the companies Bain "saved". So he was receiving a 6 figure salary for doing nothing? For being just a signature on a page?

 

[Rhode Irish]

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Mike Rowe wrote to President Obama 4 years ago regarding job training etc. Never heard back. He wrote to Romney and heard back and has appeared with Romney in Ohio.

I haven't heard many things stupider than choosing who you support in an election based on who responds to your letter.

 

[Bluto]

I haven't heard many things stupider than choosing who you support in an election based on who responds to your letter.

So I'm actually covered in dust from my job as I write this so I guess that puts me on par with the dirty jobs guy. Anyhow, the crap I've heard come out of Mitt Romney regarding "self deportation" and "if only he was born in Mexico" made me want to put my foot up his ***. Just from a pure personality perspective he seems to be the embodiment of every rich, smarmy jerk off I've ever known and or met over the years and no not all of them were Republicans.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Sure, he's been around for years. As a moderate governor, as a hard-right conservative running for the Republican nomination, and last night as a guy who was sprinting to the left. Which guy is he really? That's what my comment was referring to.

You know it's entirely possible that different scenario exists. You know, the one I have been saying all along. That Mitt Romney is the "moderate governor" you speak of, who had to say a bunch of bullsh!t in the primaries and to fire up the Republican inbreds, and is simply now returning to what history has shown us.

Not at all possible?

I do emphatically deny that he is an amazing human being. Great businessman, man of the church, even charitable -- but you are barking up the wrong tree if you think I'll ever believe that a man who ruined people over and over to enrich himself is a good human being. I believe that he is pure scum. All that money he gave to mormon charity he took from hardworking American citizens who he put out of work because people in China would do the work for less.

lololol

As far as his summary of taxes goes, you can believe whatever you wish. There is a reason he isn't showing them. I can write anything in summary of my taxes that I want to if there is no way for anyone to check. Hell, I gave $6 million to charity last year. See what I mean?

I was under the impression that his donations were fact. Maybe I'm wrong...

 

[RallySonsOfND]

1.) Why are you supposed to care what Romney does with his money? You can't be serious. How about, because how he handles his own money is going to play a role in how he handles MY tax money. Also, if he handles his money by hiding it off-shore accounts to get out of paying taxes on it, THAT IS A PROBLEM FOR ME. Not just on the criminal level, but on the ETHICAL level. I want an *ethical* president. And Mitt Romney is the antithesis of ethical. I pay 19% taxes as a single parent making 50K a year with a Bachelor's degree. How is it right that Mitt Romney makes MILLIONS and pays LESS in taxes? Does any of that money trickle down? Does he do any HIRING with that money? FALSE. Instead, he takes jobs away from people to get himself MORE money. The man is a crook!

2.) You can't, out of one side of your mouth, say that Mitt Romney's first priority should be jobs because unemployment is the problem in this country, and then out of the OTHER side of your mouth say that China is in the right for putting Americans out of work by producing things cheaper (because their citizens are willing to work for pennies on the dollar). You can't have it both ways when the major unemployment sector in this country is manufacturing (because clowns like Mitt Romney let American jobs hemorrhage out to other countries to make himself more money).

3.) Mitt Romney denies doing any work for Bain during their criminal years, but yet was signed on as CEO for that entire time (and receiving a 6 figure salary). He says he was just a name on the page, and wasn't actually involved in any decisions. Yet he ALSO loves taking credit for all the companies Bain "saved". So he was receiving a 6 figure salary for doing nothing? For being just a signature on a page?

I seriously laughed throughout this entire post.

1.) You seriously think Obama is handling YOUR tax money well right now? Mitt Romney now makes his living off of investments so he pays capital gains taxes not waged income. He is doing nothing illegal to 'pay less' in taxes. A lot of people make a living off of investment income, my grandfather now being one of them.

2.) I'm not even going to try to explain the basics of free-market and the benefit to consumers, to you because you obviously can not comprehend actual economics not the 'obamanomics' of this current presidency.

3.) Guess what Romney's net worth would be if he stayed at Bain Capital instead of fixing the Olympics or Massachusetts? OVER $1 BILLION.

4.) Romney is an EXTREMELY successful businessman. And that is exactly what this country needs. Decisions for the MOST needed cuts will not be easy, but need to be done. If you think this country will tax its way out of the GIANT hole both parties have put us in, you need to come back to reality, because that is not going to happen.

 

[phgreek]

Another thing that won't change unless young people entering college and parents wake up and smell the BS....

stop taking up fake majors that offer no skills or have no demand in the marketplace. go to school to learn something useful so you get a return on your investment.

that is one area (50% of college grads this year are unemployed or working part time) that isn't obama's fault. and wouldn't be romney's fault, either.

...we may or may not agree on everything...but there is some truth here.

 

[irishff1014]

Of course Obama had all the answers today. Little to late bud.

 

[Rhode Irish]

Of course Obama had all the answers today. Little to late bud.

Really? I thought the election was next month. Also, its "too."

 

[irishff1014]

Really? I thought the election was next month. Also, its "too."

Ok to be clear i guess i should have said its a little late with the come backs for the this first debate.

 

[Quinntastic]

I seriously laughed throughout this entire post.

1.) You seriously think Obama is handling YOUR tax money well right now? Mitt Romney now makes his living off of investments so he pays capital gains taxes not waged income. He is doing nothing illegal to 'pay less' in taxes. A lot of people make a living off of investment income, my grandfather now being one of them.

2.) I'm not even going to try to explain the basics of free-market and the benefit to consumers, to you because you obviously can not comprehend actual economics not the 'obamanomics' of this current presidency.

3.) Guess what Romney's net worth would be if he stayed at Bain Capital instead of fixing the Olympics or Massachusetts? OVER $1 BILLION.

4.) Romney is an EXTREMELY successful businessman. And that is exactly what this country needs. Decisions for the MOST needed cuts will not be easy, but need to be done. If you think this country will tax its way out of the GIANT hole both parties have put us in, you need to come back to reality, because that is not going to happen.

1.) No, he is deliberately hiding money in off-shore accounts that are not taxed by the US. This puts is "taxable" income in a much lower tax bracket. There is just no way in hell a multi-millionaire should be paying less in taxes than I am. Period. I've got Bush Jr to thank for the tax cuts on the millionaires, but Bush Jr and Romney are of the same mind-set that it's okay to be this way.

2.) I am perfectly aware of how free-market capitalism works. A few get rich at the expense of everyone else. Yes, that's the kind of market I want. (That's sarcasm for those not able to pick it up themselves). I think it's a cold, heartless, wench who believes that the government should just let its own people (plenty of whom work very hard) starve, be homeless, or die due to lack of adequate healthcare.

3.) Oh, so you think that Romney did anything good for Massachusetts? Ha. Now that gave *me* a good laugh. During his time as governor, Massachusetts was 47th for job growth, 49th for quality of public schools, and at the bottom for budget as well.

 

[BGIF]

1.) ... There is just no way in hell a multi-millionaire should be paying less in taxes than I am. ...

Romney paid $1.96 million in taxes in 2011. What were you $1.97 million?

If you have suspicion of tax fraud, have you contacted the IRS and turned him in?

You get a piece of whatever they get. And if you don't want it, you can donate it to the US Treasury to help pay down the Federal Debt.

Did Senator Reid, who claimed from the Senate that Romney didn't pay taxes for something like a decade, turn Romney in to the IRS? As a senior member of government shouldn't Reid have contacted the IRS with his "knowledge" of Romney's nefarious deed?


BTW, Harry Reid is a multi-millionaire. He's done well for a guy that's been running for public office since 1970.

 

[Quinntastic]

Romney paid $1.96 million in taxes in 2011. What were you $1.97 million?

If you have suspicion of tax fraud, have you contacted the IRS and turned him in?

You get a piece of whatever they get. And if you don't want it, you can donate it to the US Treasury to help pay down the Federal Debt.

Did Senator Reid, who claimed from the Senate that Romney didn't pay taxes for something like a decade, turn Romney in to the IRS? As a senior member of government shouldn't Reid have contacted the IRS with his "knowledge" of Romney's nefarious deed?


BTW, Harry Reid is a multi-millionaire. He's done well for a guy that's been running for public office since 1970.

I meant percentage, BGIF. Obviously I didn't pay as much as Romney did. If I did, it would mean I am a millionaire. In which case I would be busy giving all my money to Romney's campaign so he could keep giving me tax cuts if he got into office.

 

[Rizzophil]

BTW, Harry Reid is a multi-millionaire. He's done well for a guy that's been running for public office since 1970.

Harry Reid says he made his multi-millions from working as an attorney for the first two years out of law school. We can take him at his word. It HAS to be the truth.

 

[RDU Irish]

1.) Why are you supposed to care what Romney does with his money? You can't be serious. How about, because how he handles his own money is going to play a role in how he handles MY tax money. Also, if he handles his money by hiding it off-shore accounts to get out of paying taxes on it, THAT IS A PROBLEM FOR ME. Not just on the criminal level, but on the ETHICAL level. I want an *ethical* president. And Mitt Romney is the antithesis of ethical. I pay 19% taxes as a single parent making 50K a year with a Bachelor's degree. How is it right that Mitt Romney makes MILLIONS and pays LESS in taxes?
QUOTE]

So a single head of household in 2011 with two exemptions. $8500 standard deduction plus $3700 personal exemption for you and your kid - $15,900 knocked off of your AGI to get $34,100 of taxable income. The first $12,150 of that is taxed at 10% and the remainder falls well within the 15% tax bracket ($1215 + $3292 = $4507). $4507/50,000 = 9%.

Now maybe you are including your portion of FICA, last year that was 5.65% instead of 7.65%. I will grant you Fica is a tax, unlike most Repubs who ignore 40% of federal revenue coming from workers. That still only gets me to 14.6%, not the 19% you claim.

Maybe you are including your state income tax to get to 19%, well I think you are honest enough to acknowledge Romney did not submit state taxes, only federal so adding your state taxes for comparison would be misleading by non-politician standards.

You may also be aware, that any investment gains or dividends you earn are taxed at 0% since you are at or below the 15% tax bracket.

But wait, you get a $1000 child tax credit (assuming under 17) since you make less than 75K. That brings your income tax down to $3507, a full 2% less than estimated above - 7%.


Long story short, you need to refile your taxes if you paid 19% federal income taxes on $50,000 of income.



As far as offshore accounts, these are used for asset protection and possibly diversification, not tax evasion. If he was evading taxes (read illegal) he would not report them on his taxes! Exactly your rhetoric reinforces the intelligence of keeping some money offshore to protect it.

 

[GoIrish41]

You know it's entirely possible that different scenario exists. You know, the one I have been saying all along. That Mitt Romney is the "moderate governor" you speak of, who had to say a bunch of bullsh!t in the primaries and to fire up the Republican inbreds, and is simply now returning to what history has shown us.

Not at all possible?

If it is OK to you for someone to completely mislead the electorate in order to get into office than there is a massive difference between you and I that cannot be settled through debate on a message board. Incidently, that also completely proves the original point I was making -- that because Romney is all over the place on what he belives in, the only thing we really know about him is that he really, really wants to be president.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

You know it's entirely possible that different scenario exists. You know, the one I have been saying all along. That Mitt Romney is the "moderate governor" you speak of, who had to say a bunch of bullsh!t in the primaries and to fire up the Republican inbreds, and is simply now returning to what history has shown us.

Not at all possible?

If it is OK to you for someone to completely mislead the electorate in order to get into office than there is a massive difference between you and I that cannot be settled through debate on a message board. Incidently, that also completely proves the original point I was making -- that because Romney is all over the place on what he belives in, the only thing we really know about him is that he really, really wants to be president.

Exactly what obama did in 2007 and 2008. I'm the "moderate." I'm the "post-racial president." I'm going to get Americans "back to work." I'm going to "save the auto industry." I'm going to "change things." I'm going to "unite everyone." that was all BS.

Romney made obama look foolish two nights ago and will continue to do so for the next month because this president cannot run on or defend his record. Ordering the kill against bin ***** will not win him the election.

 

[connor_in]

Top 5 False Economic Ideas Believed by Obama and His Supporters

 

[GoIrish41]

Yes, I did own a TV set. Media tried covered it up and then defended obama. Said we couldn't hold him accoubtable for what his pastor said. Said it means nothing and tells us nothing. It told us a lot.

When I said he believes in people, he believes that individuals are free and capable to choose their own desntiy, their own healthcare, make their own decisions as opposed to big gov programs that plan people's lives and "takes care" of everyone.

States count very little on federal money for funding of education. Most counties/ districts get their revenue from local property taxes. Don't paint me as that guy who "hates teachers" and wants to raise children who can't read and do taxes.

The federal government provides billions of dollars to states each year to supplement public education almost exclusively at the request of the states through grants. What do you suppose the states do with that money? Among other things they hire teachers. I'm not painting you as anything, but denying that the federal government plays a role in public education is just not correct.

I'm citing the Constitution. Not one word in there about education. States have freedom to handle it as they will, like they do with gay marriage. States/ counties can take a number of different steps: re-evaluate teachers' pensions and salaries (wisconsin), encourage more competition (charter and private schools), raise property taxes, or districts can eliminate programs temporarily (art, music, etc.). None of this is easy and none of it is fun. But until the private sector gets booming again, poeple earn more money, and pay more in taxes, this is the state of public education.

This is simply not acceptable to me. It's like we are throwing up our hands and saying it is too hard or too expensive to give a group of children a quality eduction -- all while there are people like Romney who are hiding their money from the government in the Cayman Islands to avoid paying the very taxes that could help these children get the education they need to succeed in the future. It is disgusting.

Underlying point: We as a country cannot rely on the federal government for every problem we face, especially in education.

You have your point of view and I have mine. I just don't see private industry lining up to solve the problems that exist. That is when the government plays a critical role in the health, safety and well-being of American citizens ... All Americans, not just the ones who can bankroll a super pac. It would be one thing if poor people had an viable alternative to government programs (most don't) and the government was insisting that these alternatives have to compete with these alternatives. If that were the case, I'd be standing beside you complaining about the same things you are complaining about. However, that is simply not the case, and abandoning an entire segment of our country so others don't have to pay to be their brothers keeper is simply an appauling concept to me.
If Romney or Obama ever come out and say, "I'll invest ***x dollars to hire yyyyy teachers"...I will vomit in my mouth. Federal government does not hire teachers.

They may ot come out and say it, but you are fooling yourself if you believe federal government expenditures are not going to hire teachers.

 

[connor_in]

Go...
So basically Romney is more evil than the eye of Sauron and the rest of the R's are worse than the Orcs?

 

[GoIrish41]

Exactly what obama did in 2007 and 2008. I'm the "moderate." I'm the "post-racial president." I'm going to get Americans "back to work." I'm going to "save the auto industry." I'm going to "change things." I'm going to "unite everyone." that was all BS.

Romney made obama look foolish two nights ago and will continue to do so for the next month because this president cannot run on or defend his record. Ordering the kill against bin ***** will not win him the election.

Obama is one of the most moderate presidents in modern history. 20 years ago he would have been a conservative by today's standards. When he took office the nation was losing more than 700,000 jobs a month and today we look back and see more than 30 months of job gains. Is it enough? Heck no. There we have some common ground, but it is disingenuous to mock him for not creating jobs when 500,000 jobs have been created on his watch. Oh, and incidently, he DID save the auto industry. I could also argue that he did change things. He passed health care reform that put a whole lot of people on the path to stability. He ended the life of Bin *****, than W spent 7 years trying to do ... unsuccessfully.

The point about him not "uniting" the country is patently unfair. It is virtually impossible to argue that the Republican abstructionism by tea party elements in that party were not the root cause of divisivness in this country during this adminstration. On the eve of his innaguration, republicans met to map out their obstructionist plans for the next four years. The republican leader publically stated that the goal of the party was to ensure that Obama did not get a second term. He endured constant attacks on his faith, his citizenship, and his political leanings. There is nobody who could have "united people" under those circumstances. Frankly, IMO it would have been quite difficult to perform as the post-racial president when there has been such a persistent thread of blatant racism from elements of the republican party running through the past four years.

Romeny won the debate that night, I'll give you that. However, he told a lot of lies and flipped drastically on a lot of positions on the stage. They guy has been campaigning for over a year on his plan for a 5 trillion dollar tax cut, and suddenly he isn't for that tax cut. He says he will get rid of Obamacare, but he tells people that he is compassionate because he instituted an identical plan in Mass. (doesn't that by extension make Obama compassionate?). His lies and flops will all come out in the wash before Nov. 6.

 

[NDFan4Life]

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This seems like a good place to bring this back:

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

They may ot come out and say it, but you are fooling yourself if you believe federal government expenditures are not going to hire teachers.

1) The federal government can give money to states for education, but if you think that money goes directly to hiring teachers (paying for their salaries, amazing benefits and pensions) you're grossly misinformed. You know why so many school districts are struggling? They thought they were in good shape in 2009/2010 from stimulus money from the government. And guess what happened when it ran out...oh $hit. We have a lot we cannt pay for or afford. Federal government, in my opinion and as stated in the Constitution, should stay out of education and leave it up to the states. The federal governemnt does NOT pay for teachers, but it does pay for programs.

2) It doesn't matter what's acceptable to you. It that isn't acceptable to you, go write a check to your local district or to the state to increase their revenue. No one is throwing their hands up and saying, "Oh man, I'm tired of paying taxes and I don't care if these kids can't read or do math." That's insane. Don't give me that Romney/ cayman islands garbage either. Romney paid exactly what he was supposed to pay in his tax returns. Didn't you see the release? And what about Democratic multi millionaires...Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Bruce Springsteen, Jay Z and Beyonce? Do you want them to pay more too, or just Republicans? Please clarify.

The idea that you want some people to pay "more" while some people pay "zero" is sad. How about everyone offers a little skin in the game? Or is that not "fair"?

3) "Government's role is to protect the citizens, not run their lives." --- Reagan

If you wish to participate in the nanny state, by all means write a check to the IRS with a certain government agency or program on it. Ironic part about your theory/ argument is everything is based on force/ mandates: you want the government to be able to force people to pay for what you think is "just" and "fair."

I am a Christian as you are and believe in free will. I also donate to charity, as I believe they are more efficient in what they do.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Romney also doubled Obama (in percentage) in charitable giving. Go tell the president to give more out of his pockets instead of sending his wife on 17 vacations a year and playing 100 rounds of golf

 

[Irish Houstonian]

You're both right on this one. Federal dollars target specific grant programs, thus hiring extra teacher and staff for those programs, but don't "pay" for "regular" teachers' salaries.

For example, my wife used to work as a special needs teacher.

Because of demographics, she only had one student in her class.

She also had 3 high-school educated "aides" at all times, making it a 4-1 adult to child ratio.

Everyone was paid because of federal grants.

#Stimulus

 

[RDU Irish]

My father was a Superintendant in Iowa before retiring a few years ago. Like Houstonian says, they jump through hoops to get federal dollars because part of that grant goes to support overhead (i.e. pay part of the electric bill, administrator salaries, etc) and they would rather have someone doing next to nothing to get the extra federal dollars. Blank check per child that follows the child is a much better idea IMO if the feds are going to be involved on any level in primary education.

 

[GoIrish41]

1) The federal government can give money to states for education, but if you think that money goes directly to hiring teachers (paying for their salaries, amazing benefits and pensions) you're grossly misinformed. You know why so many school districts are struggling? They thought they were in good shape in 2009/2010 from stimulus money from the government. And guess what happened when it ran out...oh $hit. We have a lot we cannt pay for or afford. Federal government, in my opinion and as stated in the Constitution, should stay out of education and leave it up to the states. The federal governemnt does NOT pay for teachers, but it does pay for programs.
2) It doesn't matter what's acceptable to you. It that isn't acceptable to you, go write a check to your local district or to the state to increase their revenue. No one is throwing their hands up and saying, "Oh man, I'm tired of paying taxes and I don't care if these kids can't read or do math." That's insane. Don't give me that Romney/ cayman islands garbage either. Romney paid exactly what he was supposed to pay in his tax returns. Didn't you see the release? And what about Democratic multi millionaires...Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Bruce Springsteen, Jay Z and Beyonce? Do you want them to pay more too, or just Republicans? Please clarify.

The idea that you want some people to pay "more" while some people pay "zero" is sad. How about everyone offers a little skin in the game? Or is that not "fair"?

3) "Government's role is to protect the citizens, not run their lives." --- Reagan

If you wish to participate in the nanny state, by all means write a check to the IRS with a certain government agency or program on it. Ironic part about your theory/ argument is everything is based on force/ mandates: you want the government to be able to force people to pay for what you think is "just" and "fair."

I am a Christian as you are and believe in free will. I also donate to charity, as I believe they are more efficient in what they do.

The states ask for the money from the federal government. But, I'm sure if you share your opionion with your governor he'll stop asking for the money. The federal money does in fact pay for programs -- those programs are executed by teachers who were hired to execute them, paid for by federal money.

The idea that "some people" should control the lion's share of the wealth in this country while others have to scrape by on poverty wages is what is sad. For a father making minimum wage to pay $100 in taxes is like a guy like Romney to pay $3 million. You know what is sad? that that doesn't compute with you. We are talking about human beings and you would have millions of them suffer so people who have more than they could spend in a lifetime have more. The income disparity in this country is outrageous, and there are a lot of hard working people who struggle every day just to put food on their table. Hey, f**k it, they can do without food -- they should instead use their money to pay taxes so rich people don't have to pay more. It is sad that you think that is Okay. That's mighty Christian of you.

 

[GoIrish41]

Unemployment rate falls below 8%.

September jobs report: Unemployment rate tumbles - Oct. 5, 2012

 

[RallySonsOfND]

The states ask for the money from the federal government. But, I'm sure if you share your opionion with your governor he'll stop asking for the money. The federal money does in fact pay for programs -- those programs are executed by teachers who were hired to execute them, paid for by federal money.

The idea that "some people" should control the lion's share of the wealth in this country while others have to scrape by on poverty wages is what is sad. For a father making minimum wage to pay $100 in taxes is like a guy like Romney to pay $3 million. You know what is sad? that that doesn't compute with you. We are talking about human beings and you would have millions of them suffer so people who have more than they could spend in a lifetime have more. The income disparity in this country is outrageous, and there are a lot of hard working people who struggle every day just to put food on their table. Hey, f**k it, they can do without food -- they should instead use their money to pay taxes so rich people don't have to pay more. It is sad that you think that is Okay. That's mighty Christian of you.

Dude, GTFO. Seriously. All you are spitting out is knee-jerk reactions with ZERO economic background. All your posts are comical and are getting ripped to shreds.

You NEED to read 'Eat the Rich' and 'Wealth of Nations'. Want those poor people to be better off? Give business owners and the 1% some freaking stability from the government and they'll put that money back into the economy to make more money!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Creating jobs). Jesus, the only thing this administration has done is create economic uncertainty and that is the reason the rich are hoarding money.

 

[RallySonsOfND]

Unemployment rate falls below 8%.

September jobs report: Unemployment rate tumbles - Oct. 5, 2012

How to lie with statistics. Unemployment rate falls, yay!!! Oh wait, its because people gave up looking for work, or completely left the workforce.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

The states ask for the money from the federal government. But, I'm sure if you share your opionion with your governor he'll stop asking for the money. The federal money does in fact pay for programs -- those programs are executed by teachers who were hired to execute them, paid for by federal money.

The idea that "some people" should control the lion's share of the wealth in this country while others have to scrape by on poverty wages is what is sad. For a father making minimum wage to pay $100 in taxes is like a guy like Romney to pay $3 million. You know what is sad? that that doesn't compute with you. We are talking about human beings and you would have millions of them suffer so people who have more than they could spend in a lifetime have more. The income disparity in this country is outrageous, and there are a lot of hard working people who struggle every day just to put food on their table. Hey, f**k it, they can do without food -- they should instead use their money to pay taxes so rich people don't have to pay more. It is sad that you think that is Okay. That's mighty Christian of you.

The governor can ask for what he wants but the impact is so little. Look at the big picture. Only Switzerland pays more than the U.S. per child in the WORLD in education. We've been pouring billions and more into education for decades. Yet, in world rankings the US ranks outside the top 10 in math, science, and reading. Go figure.

You can cry income disparity and class warfare all you want. There are 1300 reasons for the wealth gap, but the rich man isn't rich beacuse the poor man is poor. Some people are more gifted/ smarter than others, some made better life decisions, some just plain got lucky. Romney's plan is to lower taxes across the board, not just for "the rich."

Your argument of "my way or everyone goes hungry and dies" is getting old. We have an obligation to the poor and we have more charities in this country than most other continents do, on top of gov. programs to try and fight this. This is why I prefer giving to charities over government. War on poverty started in the 1960's and will never end.

Still waiting on your response about all the mulit-millionaire Democrats...or do you really just demand the evil Republicans to pay more for what Democrats want?