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Speculating yes, because you’re basing your criticism solely off of the video which doesn’t show what was going on for him to be pulled over. Police don’t ask you to get out off the car for a typical speeding ticket.
Which is all the evidence we have of the incident…..lmao. I’m in the wrong because I’m not speculating? Ok

Since WE don’t know what occurred before there are an infinite number of plausible speculated scenarios that occurred before filming started. But probably what did happen was that the driver was rude about being pulled over because he stated that in the video. He was rude to the cop who got his authority feelings hurt bad by the bad man speeding and escalated it as retribution. But based on the evidence at hand, everything he did and said was halfhearted like he didn’t know how to stop feeling so hurt by this guy who clearly in his right mind and no threat. Hands wereon the steering wheel. Looking ahead. No threat. The driver declined to get out ( we don’t know why) and was filming. If it was truly a valid order the driver must comply yes? Then why didn’t the cop become more forceful? Either it wasn’t lawful or the cop wasn’t going actually do anything wrong because he was being filmed. Then the video ends when the cop chickens out of spraying him by lying that his spray is empty. What kind of shitty cop leaves the office with a empty pepper spray can? Was it empty because he used it on another speeding violator hours before?

Just as equally likely as WHATEVER speculation you are trying to inject. You are concocting a speculation based on your opinion of how you think the cop would behave and the driver would have behaved. My scenario is equally as likely and it doesn’t do any good to speculate either way.
 
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Think about what? They had him handcuffed and were off of him in under a minute. Chauvin had his knee on Floyd’s neck for what? 8 minutes?
9 minutes and his back up allowed him to do it and threatened the people around them trying to help with arrest.
 

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Think about what? They had him handcuffed and were off of him in under a minute. Chauvin had his knee on Floyd’s neck for what? 8 minutes?
Couldn’t be yelling that because he’s trying to make it look like the police were overstepping their boundaries?
 

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Couldn’t be yelling that because he’s trying to make it look like the police were overstepping their boundaries?
right- the point was it’s not an automatic point to the person being arrested. In this case, the POS who should have been behind bars when he killed innocent people played that off.
 

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Which is all the evidence we have of the incident…..lmao. I’m in the wrong because I’m not speculating? Ok

Since WE don’t know what occurred before there are an infinite number of plausible speculated scenarios that occurred before filming started. But probably what did happen was that the driver was rude about being pulled over because he stated that in the video. He was rude to the cop who got his authority feelings hurt bad by the bad man speeding and escalated it as retribution. But based on the evidence at hand, everything he did and said was halfhearted like he didn’t know how to stop feeling so hurt by this guy who clearly in his right mind and no threat. Hands wereon the steering wheel. Looking ahead. No threat. The driver declined to get out ( we don’t know why) and was filming. If it was truly a valid order the driver must comply yes? Then why didn’t the cop become more forceful? Either it wasn’t lawful or the cop wasn’t going actually do anything wrong because he was being filmed. Then the video ends when the cop chickens out of spraying him by lying that his spray is empty. What kind of shitty cop leaves the office with a empty pepper spray can? Was it empty because he used it on another speeding violator hours before?

Just as equally likely as WHATEVER speculation you are trying to inject. You are concocting a speculation based on your opinion of how you think the cop would behave and the driver would have behaved. My scenario is equally as likely and it doesn’t do any good to speculate either way.
You’re right, we don’t know what happened prior to the video, which is why I said something. Your original comments were based off just a portion of the entire incident making the policeman the bad guy. Hands on the steering wheel doesn’t absolve the guy for not complying.

Color it anyway you want, but the guy was being a dick and police don’t ask you to get out of your car for a simple traffic violation.
 

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You’re right, we don’t know what happened prior to the video, which is why I said something. Your original comments were based off just a portion of the entire incident making the policeman the bad guy. Hands on the steering wheel doesn’t absolve the guy for not complying.

Color it anyway you want, but the guy was being a dick and police don’t ask you to get out of your car for a simple traffic violation.
My original comments were based off the video without speculating . What is the deal here?
 

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If we’re allowed to speculate, I’m going to assume the guy was leading a prayer circle while comforting a puppy right before the cop approached. Just after the video, the cops were high-fiving and taking selfies by the body to share with his pals on the police bowling league. Am I doing this right?
 
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You guys are right. The driver didn’t do anything wrong and had every right to ignore the instructions of the policeman.
 

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Come on, Gattaca. Be better than this. They didn't honor him for shooting someone. He received a Purple Heart for injuries suffered in the line of duty, not for shooting the guy. When you post intentionally misleading stuff like "...honored him for shooting a man" you lose credibility. We expect that from a couple of others here, but not you.
You realize how quotes work right?
 

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Come on, Gattaca. Be better than this. They didn't honor him for shooting someone. He received a Purple Heart for injuries suffered in the line of duty, not for shooting the guy. When you post intentionally misleading stuff like "...honored him for shooting a man" you lose credibility. We expect that from a couple of others here, but not you.
Read his post again. You misquoted him to change the meaning so you could old-man lecture him. Give it a rest! We expect better from you … er, not really.
 

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A little law enforcement could have saved Seattle several millions.

A fellow parent and acquaintance here in Carmel moved from Seattle because his business was overtaken by this. He blasted the school for some BLM material; his story was insane. It sounds like the true chaos of that event never made the media.
 

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A little law enforcement could have saved Seattle several millions.


lol, you can't make this up.

'While CHOP was mostly peaceful, there were instances of vandalism and sporadic outbreaks of violence, including fights, an attempt to torch the abandoned police precinct and at least four shootings that claimed two lives of two teenagers, including a 16-year-old boy whose death led the city to end the protest.'
 
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Being in IT, this doesn't surprise me. It's not a matter of if a company will get hit, but of when they'll get hit. While these bad actors are criminals and out right assholes, they are very smart. Many of these are set up just like a regular company. They write the programs to find and exploit vulnerabilities, then bring people off the streets to sit at a desk and run the program looking for a positive result. Human error in responding to a phishing email is still the #1 reason someone gets attacked.
 

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People are sick. Doesn’t change if he has a knife or brass knuckles.
The video is out there and it is cold blooded murder.

Yep. These girls used knives on their victim.

 

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Yep. These girls used knives on their victim.

People are sick. Doesn’t change if he has a knife or brass knuckles.
The video is out there and it is cold blooded murder.
People who are hell bent on killing someone will find a way, one way or another.
 
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