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arrowryan

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Remember just 3 months ago we thought we could smoked by teams that were pass happy? This secondary has come such long way!! I am extremely proud of this defensive unit, but I am very happy for this secondary.

Do we lose anyone for next year? I know Russell, Jackson, and Farley are back for sure. I also think Slaughter gets a 6th year. So what about Motta, is he gone?
 

Ironman8

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Motta will exhaust his eligibility. Hopefully Collinsworth can come back healthy, as the staff was really high on his ability to contribute before being hurt this year, and that we see continued improvement and production out of the next men in of Hardy, Baratti, Prosise, Badger, Turner and Co.
 

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I'll withhold commenting on the secondary until we've played USC and our bowl game.
 
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Ironman8

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I'd withhold commenting on the secondary until we've played USC and our bowl game.

I'm not. USC has the best WRs in the country, and have the ability to make any secondary look bad. If they have a tough game against Barkley and Co. it will not change my opinion that the coaching and development of the talent in the secondary had been great this year, and that they have exceeded any of my wildest expectations. Russell and Jackson are great athletes that have learned a new position extremely quickly and have limited big plays, and tackle extremely well.

To lose two projected starters, one being an extremely productive 5th year player, and still play this well, is simply astonishing to me. Kudos to the kids as well as Coach Elliot and Coach Cooks for a great job. With our front seven, they know they don't have to be a dominating, playmaking type group for us to succeed. They know their roles in the D, and have performed them extremely well so far this year.
 

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I'll withhold commenting on the secondary until we've played USC and our bowl game.

I'm not. USC has the best WRs in the country, and have the ability to make any secondary look bad. If they have a tough game against Barkley and Co. it will not change my opinion that the coaching and development of the talent in the secondary had been great this year, and that they have exceeded any of my wildest expectations. Russell and Jackson are great athletes that have learned a new position extremely quickly and have limited big plays, and tackle extremely well.

To lose two projected starters, one being an extremely productive 5th year player, and still play this well, is simply astonishing to me. Kudos to the kids as well as Coach Elliot and Coach Cooks for a great job. With our front seven, they know they don't have to be a dominating, playmaking type group for us to succeed. They know their roles in the D, and have performed them extremely well so far this year.

I fixed it.....I should have said "I'LL withhold comment" rather than "I'D withhold comment".
 

ThePiombino

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All I know is that this YOUNG secondary can only benefit (in the long run) from this forced early PT. They should be pretty stout over the next couple of years for it.
 

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They've been challenged on several occasions already, against Miami and Purdue (to a lesser degree), and at Oklahoma, which is a significant challenge, maybe not the challenge that USC will present, but significant nonetheless.
 

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I'm not. USC has the best WRs in the country, and have the ability to make any secondary look bad. If they have a tough game against Barkley and Co. it will not change my opinion that the coaching and development of the talent in the secondary had been great this year, and that they have exceeded any of my wildest expectations. Russell and Jackson are great athletes that have learned a new position extremely quickly and have limited big plays, and tackle extremely well.

To lose two projected starters, one being an extremely productive 5th year player, and still play this well, is simply astonishing to me. Kudos to the kids as well as Coach Elliot and Coach Cooks for a great job. With our front seven, they know they don't have to be a dominating, playmaking type group for us to succeed. They know their roles in the D, and have performed them extremely well so far this year.

Hear! Hear!
 

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Ok I'll comment.

I think the world of everyone on our team.

The defensive coaching and game planning to avoid leaning on our secondary while they learn has been tremendous.

They will, as individuals, in probability be tested more than ever before against USC and in our bowl game.
 

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I'm not. USC has the best WRs in the country, and have the ability to make any secondary look bad. If they have a tough game against Barkley and Co. it will not change my opinion that the coaching and development of the talent in the secondary had been great this year, and that they have exceeded any of my wildest expectations. Russell and Jackson are great athletes that have learned a new position extremely quickly and have limited big plays, and tackle extremely well.

To lose two projected starters, one being an extremely productive 5th year player, and still play this well, is simply astonishing to me. Kudos to the kids as well as Coach Elliot and Coach Cooks for a great job. With our front seven, they know they don't have to be a dominating, playmaking type group for us to succeed. They know their roles in the D, and have performed them extremely well so far this year.

yea...I'm with this Point of View...some of these guys were receivers...not perfect, but, jeez, they have shown up and competed. USC will get 'em some I think...but I think they hold up better than Oregon...
 

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I have been watching secondary play in college for too many years, but I believe that it has taught me a few things:

1). every secondary player gets beat several times a season, and occasionally badly. That is modern offensive football. Why does one think that the Kellys of the world station their Mike Floyds and Tyler Eiferts out there to terrorize them about having to face the best athletes on the opposition?? Every time a never-played-a-snap "fan" complains about one of our guys getting beat, I cringe.

2). Young secondary players, especially young corners, tend to improve with dazzling advancement from one year to another. [If they have "It"]. The noise in their head is gone. The field becomes their intuitive jungle. They feel, they see, they strike. Again, pseudo-fans, who appear to be remarkably ignorant about the developmental and team aspects of football, are completely off-base when they complain about the players not being instantly full-blown Deion Sanders yet.

3). I'm sticking with #1 and #2, but this next may be just BS: These guys [Russell, Jackson, and even Farley] just look like they have it. That one is just my eye-test. Here's why: great closing speed/ never give up on a play/ swarm to the ball --- the whole defense is doing this [except on rare puzzling occasions, Ishaq {I don't get that}] ---/ and tough-minded tackling attempts. Big time athleticism and change-of-direction//flexibility [our much-maligned former corner {and I will NOT malign him}, Gary Gray, had all of the above at levels of excellence except change-of-direction/moment-of-truth flexibility, and that shows how primary that quality is]. By the way, Manti was not the player everybody wanted to believe in until he [just about magically in my mind --- never saw such a surprising change in this particular quality and would have thought it impossible] suddenly became flexible and with that a rapid direction-changer. These interceptions happen due to extreme flexible athleticism, plus willpower and strength, all at the moment of truth.

Anyway--- we have something really good coming here in the D-Backfield. We just need a veteran safety with a lot of Motta in him, and we're going to be elite.
 

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The biggest change in the secondary is the speed of our cornerbacks. We essentially had 4 safeties playing last year from a speed perspective. Russell and Jackson are a step up.
 

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I'm not. USC has the best WRs in the country, and have the ability to make any secondary look bad. If they have a tough game against Barkley and Co. it will not change my opinion that the coaching and development of the talent in the secondary had been great this year, and that they have exceeded any of my wildest expectations. Russell and Jackson are great athletes that have learned a new position extremely quickly and have limited big plays, and tackle extremely well.

To lose two projected starters, one being an extremely productive 5th year player, and still play this well, is simply astonishing to me. Kudos to the kids as well as Coach Elliot and Coach Cooks for a great job. With our front seven, they know they don't have to be a dominating, playmaking type group for us to succeed. They know their roles in the D, and have performed them extremely well so far this year.

Nice write up Ironman.
 

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Ok I'll comment.

I think the world of everyone on our team.

The defensive coaching and game planning to avoid leaning on our secondary while they learn has been tremendous.

They will, as individuals, in probability be tested more than ever before against USC and in our bowl game.

Totally agree. The Oklahoma game showed us that Diaco knew what he was playing with and put in the best possible game plan with Russell, Jackson, Farley, Motta. Definitely some raw talent (Farley is way bigger in person than I thought, and Rusell SAVEDDDDDD our a**es twice last night), but the defensive game planning has significantly helped our secondary. IMO at least more than would be necessary if we didn't have our injuries.
 

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Count me in among the many who were very concerned about our secondary coming into the season. Then Slaughter went down, which made the situation seem even less encouraging. And now, for these guys to be playing at this level pretty darn consistently, I am just so impressed. SC will definitely be the biggest test of the season, and we likely won't shut them down to the extent we did OU (more talented and more poised). But that's ok, because they will still play well enough for us win the game. I love this team, and I love this set of DBs and their coaches. Amazing progress.
 
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