Oct 9 | Virginia Tech

[Free Manera]

Kyren Williams effect?

100%. The blitz pickup has been fine because on passing downs ND is keeping in 1 or more RBs/TEs to block.

 

[Free Manera]

If Coan starts, I just hope Rees' play calling is better than last weekend. He has got to figure that out. WRs better start catching the ball too. Their drops at the absolute worst moments are killing this offense just as the bad QB play, bad OL play, and bad play calling have been.

Yeah it's not just the O line. The line is getting most of the blame and rightfully so, they blow. But the whole offense is inept. You can't win games against decent teams with:

• bad O line play
• poor QB decision-making leading to INTs
• bad drops by receivers
• receivers not getting off press coverage
• stupid QB subs at the wrong time
• putting in Buchner to run read option literally every time
• playcalling that doesn't take into account for the team's weaknesses.

The offense as a whole is just a disaster. The next time it is all clicking as a unit will be the first time.

 

[Irish#1]

Kyren Williams effect?

You would think so. If they tend to go with a three man rush on 3rd, the chances of keeping the pressure off the QB should be better. I said should be. lol

 

[CHIDomer9]

Take the under on points, the over for turnovers. It’s gonna be a muddy mess tomorrow night.

 

[pumpdog20]

To be fair, I don't think he ruined Madden. I think he completely whiffed on the eval, which is just as damning IMO...

It's fair, but the folks who made him an all american also whiffed on the eval.

Which is why I think it's more on quinn and a development thing.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

SIAP. Found this to be a good read by an opposing beat writer. Should we tell him it's Coan after he did such a great job writing up the conditions under a Pyne-ran offense?

https://247sports.com/college/virgi...ch-vs-No-13-Notre-Dame-172520028/#172520028_1

 

[Irishnuke]

Hope this QB situation doesn't wind up creating a divide in the locker room. I'm sure there's already a ton of frustration amongst the guys.

 

[ulukinatme]

Hope this QB situation doesn't wind up creating a divide in the locker room. I'm sure there's already a ton of frustration amongst the guys.

Brings up an interesting thought I had...could it be the offense responds better to Pyne because he's been in the program longer and chose ND first? Obviously Pyne has escapability and that's helping given the OL situation, but could the players be responding better under Pyne because they thought he'd be the guy after Book left?

 

[dad4aa]

It's fair, but the folks who made him an all american also whiffed on the eval.

Which is why I think it's more on quinn and a development thing.

I am not a fan of Quinn at all but not sure how a guy spends his first four years…development years… with another team and then spends 6 months at ND and it is Quinn’s fault he isn’t developed. I agree this is more of a whiff on the evil than it is development under ND.

 

[Luckylucci]

I am not a fan of Quinn at all but not sure how a guy spends his first four years…development years… with another team and then spends 6 months at ND and it is Quinn’s fault he isn’t developed. I agree this is more of a whiff on the evil than it is development under ND.

I'm not going to pretend that I know anything, at all, about Marshall's offensive and/or blocking schemes. Has there been a change in scheme that he's not comfortable in? Are they asking him to do things he hadn't done before? It seemed like he was billed as this big mauler OG. Was that because he came from a man blocking scheme. And, now our zone blocking scheme is giving him problems?

That's just stuff that has come to my mind while I watch him flail about on Saturdays, lol.

 

[NDdomer2]

I'm not going to pretend that I know anything, at all, about Marshall's offensive and/or blocking schemes. Has there been a change in scheme that he's not comfortable in? Are they asking him to do things he hadn't done before? It seemed like he was billed as this big mauler OG. Was that because he came from a man blocking scheme. And, now our zone blocking scheme is giving him problems?

That's just stuff that has come to my mind while I watch him flail about on Saturdays, lol.

I thought there was an article in the offseason about this exact thing, but I could be making shit up in my head, certainly wouldn't be the first time.

 

[ColinKSU]

Notre Dame’s losing this game if Coan is QB.

 

[IrishBoognish]

Notre Dame’s losing this game if Coan is QB.

wanna bet?

I'll bet you 200 dollars this is an Irish win.

I'm a low post handle on here... but im good for it.

It might not be pretty, but the Irish will win this. Theyre gonna run for once... Austin is pissed again... Coan will be fine.

let me know 200 to 1 dollars.

 

[Crazy Balki]

I think ND can field an adequate line with Madden at guard, but not if he's paired with Lugg. They're just both way too immobile.

You can't have a guy like Madden, who's great at the point of attack, but can't do much in chipping guys off the edge to assist the tackle, if the tackle is on ice skates all game.

I'd say you give anyone, literally ANYONE a shot at RT, other than Lugg. For me, I'd go with:

LT: Alt
LG: Kristofic
C: Patterson
RG: Madden
RT: Carmody/Baker

 

[BrownerandFry]

It is sad sad times right now. Coan’s experience threw and int inside the 10 yard line at home on a terrible decision. Then continued to make bad decisions.

I absolutely love watching Notre Dame football but it’s starting to get hard to watch because of the continued bad decision from the coaching staff.

This is intolerable! Off with Coan's head!

He made a bad decision and the "continued to make bad decisions."

I have NEVER made a bad decision! Have you?

Love and Smooches,

the Queen of Hearts....

 

[NDRock]

This is intolerable! Off with Coan's head!

He made a bad decision and the "continued to make bad decisions."

I have NEVER made a bad decision! Have you?

Love and Smooches,

the Queen of Hearts....

One thing about all our QBs this year, they have great attitudes and seem to really pull for each other. Coan just lacks elite talent. Kid gives his all and it’s about all you can ask for. Sometimes he just runs out of talent.

 

[BeatSC]

Coan behind a good line and receivers with reliable hands is draftable. Add in some good play calling and he’s even better. Sadly we have failed in all three categories plus the running game has no imagination. With that said I would rather see us see what TB has to offer. I call BS on Pyne being a 4 star. His passes over 25 yards are a joke. Who did we beat out to get him here at ND? Don’t need Pyne being our odds on starter heading into next season. Go back and watch the blue gold game. He can’t pass at a 50% clip a la Wimbush without the moves or arm strength. We tried Pat Dillingmam already. Who says starting TB is throwing the towel in for this season? This offense isn’t going to win us games as-is. We need electric not immobile.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Coan behind a good line and receivers with reliable hands is draftable. Add in some good play calling and he’s even better. Sadly we have failed in all three categories plus the running game has no imagination. With that said I would rather see us see what TB has to offer. I call BS on Pyne being a 4 star. His passes over 25 yards are a joke. Who did we beat out to get him here at ND? Don’t need Pyne being our odds on starter heading into next season. Go back and watch the blue gold game. He can’t pass at a 50% clip a la Wimbush without the moves or arm strength. We tried Pat Dillingmam already. Who says starting TB is throwing the towel in for this season? This offense isn’t going to win us games as-is. We need electric not immobile.

We have got to recruit better. Coach and develope better. Get players to play like the next play is the most important play of their lives. Create a standard for the program that is golden.

 

[T-Boone]

Get analysts like Bama has. What about when bama was trying to modernise their offence and had Kiffin and Sarkisian as his assistant.

 

[NDisme]

I think ND can field an adequate line with Madden at guard, but not if he's paired with Lugg. They're just both way too immobile.

You can't have a guy like Madden, who's great at the point of attack, but can't do much in chipping guys off the edge to assist the tackle, if the tackle is on ice skates all game.

I'd say you give anyone, literally ANYONE a shot at RT, other than Lugg. For me, I'd go with:

LT: Alt
LG: Kristofic
C: Patterson
RG: Madden
RT: Carmody/Baker

Baker ok, but I’ve seen nothing from Carmody to play him over Lugg and that’s scary.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Get analysts like Bama has. What about when bama was trying to modernise their offence and had Kiffin and Sarkisian as his assistant.

We do have analysts. The problem is while Alabama modernizes by hiring Kiffin and Sarkisian and O'Brien to run the offense, ND hires guys like Tommy Rees.

ND has the money and name recognition to hire anybody for any position but they choose to hire scrubs. Not at every position. But too many.

 

[BeatSC]

Ok I’m watching Oklahoma Texas and a true freshman QB for OK replace their heisman candidate and basically score 35 points in the second half. This kid didn’t play HS FB last year just like Buchner and he might now be the face this season and the next two for OK football. Rattler is supposed to be the shit and alit better than Coan and yet Kelly doesn’t have the balls to give him a shot. We can still win out with TB if he truly is what we thought he might be but he has to be given the chance. TB will wind up in the portal if he isn’t the starter next year. We aren’t winning it all or making the playoffs this year so let’s see what upside we might have with TB. We can even can Rees and Quinn mid season. What do we have to lose? Losing with Coan is accepting mediocrity once again imo.

 

[NDBoiler]

I’m not sure if I missed it, is Mayer supposed to play today?

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Ok I’m watching Oklahoma Texas and a true freshman QB for OK replace their heisman candidate and basically score 35 points in the second half. This kid didn’t play HS FB last year just like Buchner and he might now be the face this season and the next two for OK football. Rattler is supposed to be the shit and alit better than Coan and yet Kelly doesn’t have the balls to give him a shot. We can still win out with TB if he truly is what we thought he might be but he has to be given the chance. TB will wind up in the portal if he isn’t the starter next year. We aren’t winning it all or making the playoffs this year so let’s see what upside we might have with TB. We can even can Rees and Quinn mid season. What do we have to lose? Losing with Coan is accepting mediocrity once again imo.

Caleb Williams was also the #1 5 star can’t miss QB. TB is talented but he was not in the same league as Williams.


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[InKellyWeTrust]

Somebody should open a "who would you start at QB?" poll. The results would be interesting

 

[BeatSC]

Caleb Williams was also the #1 5 star can’t miss QB. TB is talented but he was not in the same league as Williams.


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Well is he is even remotely close then Kelly should do it. He was the only QB in the Blue Gold game to make plays. Kid is a playmaker and has the arm strength that Pyne lacks. His running ability would open up this offense and we all know that. Not interested in the game manager anymore.

 

[T-Boone]

Well is he is even remotely close then Kelly should do it. He was the only QB in the Blue Gold game to make plays. Kid is a playmaker and has the arm strength that Pyne lacks. His running ability would open up this offense and we all know that. Not interested in the game manager anymore.

I kind of rather TB play a bit but in sensible situations and otherwise practice with Style and Colzie and the other Bs getting ready for next season. If he started this year he would be throwing to dudes who wont be here next season (apart from Mayer).

 

[BeatSC]

And Toledo loses another game…..our SOS looks weaker and weaker every week. We aren’t making the playoff even at 11-1.

 

[T-Boone]

And Toledo loses another game…..our SOS looks weaker and weaker every week. We aren’t making the playoff even at 11-1.

Haha. That has been clear for weeks.
Making the play offs isn't the goal winning the ship is and that isnt happening this season. Just get into a good bowl game and win it and take some momentum into 22.

 

[BeatSC]

Coans inability to make plays with his legs is killing this offense. Every QB except for the sloth Tommy Rees under Kelly made plays with their legs. Coan is and should be a non-starter…..literally