Nov 25 | Stanford

[PutuporShutup]

Yeah Freeman should have made sure these guys were upperclassmen by now. That’s on him and the staff.

Wow this is easy.

Yeah no sophomores in the country playing well, different at nd, need to be an upperclassman… why benmo had a bad game

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Pretty sure that’s Al

And Max Bullough as the GA

 

[IRISHDODGER]

 

[Irish#1]

Stanford covers. Humble brag.


Ted Robinson's a good guy. He's done all kinds of stuff over the years including being the Twins & A's tv guy. I first learned about him when he called our game vs Ole Miss in the tourney when Bryce hit The Shot.

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[ndfanatic78]

Hard to watch The Game, then the Iron Bowl, and flip over to our super exciting, heated rival against the 500 fan Cardinal.

ND football is in no man's land in about every facet.

Why are you a fan? They only bring you misery. Are you a masochist?

 

[ulukinatme]

I don’t know if you guys discussed it during the game, but watch the Bitch move by #42 on Stanford during the FG TD return.

At the 8:45 mark of this video.

Just runs up & shoves Morrison in the back after the TD for no reason.
Bitch move.

That's pretty shitty. Dude she be suspended for their bowl game. Oh, wait

 

[ulukinatme]

Estime had his own fumble issues last year and I think to start this season, seems like all our RBs have to learn the lesson the hard way early and he wasn't immune to it. Feel like he should have picked Payne up like Diggs did for him last year.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

on the Payne TD where it was initially ruled a fumble, when I saw Jayden Thomas’ reaction it convinced me Payne was in for the TD

on the blocked punt, I loved how X Watts immediately found someone to block after JJB picked up the loose ball. That block sprung him for the TD

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

If you want to be taken seriously - like a legit Top 15 Program - you need exposure. Out last game of the season is only on a PAC 12 cable package? Fucking stupid. Another success by Savvy Jackass. We are not ready for prime time.

It's only due to Captain jack that we haven't joined some shit conference AND that we still recruit nationally.

We play SC/Stanford on alternating mid season and last game of the year. Since 1998.

Specifically, we play in Cali twice a year, we hit NC and Florida/Texas as much as we can. Our Schedule rotates around recruiting. And THAT is all about Swarbrick. The man who modernized Notre Dame football.

 

[Floribama50]

I don’t know if you guys discussed it during the game, but watch the Bitch move by #42 on Stanford during the FG TD return.

At the 8:45 mark of this video.

Just runs up & shoves Morrison in the back after the TD for no reason.
Bitch move.

I saw live and had the same reaction. Every time I see a play like that I think of Jaylon which makes my blood boil even more.

 

[INLaw]

For everyone who wants the young linebackers to play over the Senior LBs…
Go watch that 4th Q and how many run fits they missed, missed tackles, hell, the snap hit the ground three times & the LBs didn’t pounce.
Bowen missed multiple tackles.
Sneed ran himself out of multiple run plays.
Stanford had in scrubs & ND’s backups let them march down the field twice.

Not at all rebutting your point. But almost every play Sneed was having his jersey pulled to a comical level. It looked like stanford was literally trying to rip his clothes off instead of block him.

 

[BobbyMac]

It's only due to Captain jack that we haven't joined some shit conference AND that we still recruit nationally.

We play SC/Stanford on alternating mid season and last game of the year. Since 1998.

Specifically, we play in Cali twice a year, we hit NC and Florida/Texas as much as we can. Our Schedule rotates around recruiting. And THAT is all about Swarbrick. The man who modernized Notre Dame football.

When ND joins a conference, it will continue to recruit nationally. Teams like ND and Stanford have to. Plus it's nothing novel anymore, UGA, Bama, OSU have learned the secret of not relying solely on regional players.

Also, was there an alternate point you were trying to make about playing in CA every year? You put they play 2x a year which isn't the case but it's easy to mix up thoughts when posting. Just curious.

 

[Lberry]

When ND joins a conference, it will continue to recruit nationally. Teams like ND and Stanford have to. Plus it's nothing novel anymore, UGA, Bama, OSU have learned the secret of not relying solely on regional players.

Also, was there an alternate point you were trying to make about playing in CA every year? You put they play 2x a year which isn't the case but it's easy to mix up thoughts when posting. Just curious.

Michigan has signed more California kids in the past 5 years than ND. It's a total myth Independce is helpful in national recruiting, let alone west coast. They don't ever play in Cali.

Same is true when you expand to states of Washington/Oregon/Arizona/Colorado/Utah - Michigan has signed more.

 

[MacIrish75]

Michigan has signed more California kids in the past 5 years than ND. It's a total myth Independce is helpful in national recruiting, let alone west coast. They don't ever play in Cali.

Same is true when you expand to states of Washington/Oregon/Arizona/Colorado/Utah - Michigan has signed more.

How many guys with actionable offers did we actually have from Oregon or The Beehive State? I think you’re cherry-picking data to fit your narrative, which would be totally on brand.

 

[Lberry]

How many guys with actionable offers did we actually have from Oregon or The Beehive State? I think you’re cherry-picking data to fit your narrative, which would be totally on brand.

I'm using the most direct indicator of value returned from recruiting - players signed. If you want to invent goal posts to count up offers, please do, let us know what you find

but it's irrelevant because results are what matters, so I'm not interested in that.

Besides, if we offered fewer, makes it an even dumber argument to play in cali for recruiting.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Not at all rebutting your point. But almost every play Sneed was having his jersey pulled to a comical level. It looked like stanford was literally trying to rip his clothes off instead of block him.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Sneed transfer out. Seems to be the odd man out at LB and while his athleticism is unquestionable he lacks eye discipline. As much as folks love to bag on Kiser & Bertrand, they are about as savvy a LB as you would want. I hope Kiser comes back for one more year. Bertrand will make an NFL roster. Marist is frustrating b/c he tackles like shit & is out of position a lot. He was fine last night but that’s his MO….up & down.

 

[MacIrish75]

I'm using the most direct indicator of value returned from recruiting - players signed. If you want to invent goal posts to count up offers, please do, let us know what you find

but it's irrelevant because results are what matters, so I'm not interested in that.

Besides, if we offered fewer, makes it an even dumber argument to play in cali for recruiting.

How can we sign players from a state when we didn’t offer any players from a state? Your argument is rooted in bad data—but why should that surprise anyone?

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

With everyone leaving, can the Pac12 still call themselves the conference of champions next year?

The Conference is over. It's all about how they dissolve it

 

[Lberry]

How can we sign players from a state when we didn’t offer any players from a state? Your argument is rooted in bad data—but why should that surprise anyone?

You don't even *know* if we offered fewer 1) CA players and 2) West coast players over those 5 years than Michigan. You're just inventing a goal post with a "what if".

Do you homework then try to make a point. So, how many did Michigan offer for question 1 & 2 over past 5 years, and how many did ND offer?

And even if it's fewer, it just strengthens the point that playing in Cali for recruting purposes is a completely worthless. If you're playing a boring game against a nobody opponent across the country and not even finding players to offer as a result, LOL.

 

[CANONIZEFATHERSORIN]

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Sneed transfer out. Seems to be the odd man out at LB and while his athleticism is unquestionable he lacks eye discipline. As much as folks love to bag on Kiser & Bertrand, they are about as savvy a LB as you would want. I hope Kiser comes back for one more year. Bertrand will make an NFL roster. Marist is frustrating b/c he tackles like shit & is out of position a lot. He was fine last night but that’s his MO….up & down.

Sneed is a true freshman who got lots of playing time…why would he transfer out

 

[BobbyMac]

Michigan has signed more California kids in the past 5 years than ND. It's a total myth Independce is helpful in national recruiting, let alone west coast. They don't ever play in Cali.

Same is true when you expand to states of Washington/Oregon/Arizona/Colorado/Utah - Michigan has signed more.

Failed logic. Just because MI signs guys from out west doesn't mean Independence isn't helpful in recruiting.

Diving into your point... how many of these MI offer/commits were offered by ND? I kinda pay attention to these things and I can think of only a couple of guys who had ND offers and they were plan B's who weren't in a position to choose ND when they decided. How many guys like Mason Graham, Zeke Berry, Jeff Persi not to mention the other too low to offer MI commits would have chosen ND instead? The 3 I just named would've.

Lastly, MI and ND have very different recruiting models. MI hands out more offers than anyone this side of Tennessee. They oofer 2x as many players as ND and 2x as many CA kids. If ND was playing in the high 3* pool of CA kids, they'd have half a roster of CA kids.

As for the other states, they are meaningless statistically. ND needs to worry about the ACC footprint, TX, CA, IL, OH, MI & IN and every demographic fit that lets ND know they are interested, especially in ND friendly football areas like StL, PHX and NOLA.

All that said, with SC, OR and UDub coming to the B1G, how will THAT impact ND's ability to recruit the players they need out of the West.

That is a concern.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Sneed is a true freshman who got lots of playing time…why would he transfer out

Sneed is a sophomore.

 

[BobbyMac]

Sneed is a RS Fr to be exact.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Sneed is a RS Fr to be exact.

Notre Dame has always classified players by their academic years.

 

[BobbyMac]

Notre Dame has always classified players by their academic years.

Roger that but to say he's a Soph ignores his eligibility clock which plays a part into how a player may be thinking about transferring.

 

[stpeteirish]

I smell BS here. McCullough was bitching at Estime about ball security by the "RB room"? Estime hasn't fumbled all year. It was something else and Freeman doesn't want the public to know what. Why bitch at Estime if Hartman Price and Payne don't protect the ball?

 

[irishff1014]

I smell BS here. McCullough was bitching at Estime about ball security by the "RB room"? Estime hasn't fumbled all year. It was something else and Freeman doesn't want the public to know what. Why bitch at Estime if Hartman Price and Payne don't protect the ball?

Unless he is the leader of that room.

But I too am suspicious of this.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Nothing to make a big deal over. It's done.

 

[NDohio]

I smell BS here. McCullough was bitching at Estime about ball security by the "RB room"? Estime hasn't fumbled all year. It was something else and Freeman doesn't want the public to know what. Why bitch at Estime if Hartman Price and Payne don't protect the ball?

Estime did fumble against Navy. And his fumble against Stanford last season was extremely crucial. Estime confirmed the conversation and took it the way it was intended...make sure your RB room holds on to the ball.