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Not sure if it was mentioned but I think we are wearing home blues today
 
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ulukinatme said:
Last time they were looking for a big upset at home they had Bill Romanowski. Did a big pregame video that was shown on the big screen before the team took the field, trying to get the stadium fired up....kind of like the one Metallica did for Virginia Tech. I expect they're going to play this one tomorrow.
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I remember that, too.

As long as Book & company play a clean game & win the TO battle, they should win w/o stress. The times BC has kept it close to a superior ND team in recent memory was when the Irish had uncharacteristically turned the ball over multiple time. Specifically, 2015 when ND had multiple TOs in the RZ making the game closer than it really was. Then further back in 2002, the Irish fumbled SEVEN times (lost 5) and still only lost by a TD.
 
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Not to go all Lou Somogyi but...

Strange things have happened in this series. Yes, 1993 was 27 years ago when none of these current players were even born but keep in mind for ND fans, the Irish have never been the same since that fateful day.

Then you got 2002, when #4 ranked 8-0 ND upsets FSU only to come home to South Bend and turn the ball over 5 times vs an inferior BC team. Irish lost by a TD and their season unraveled from there.

2015 was a close call. I don’t recall how many times Kizer & the offense turned the ball over in the RZ but it was enough to make it a close final score in a game that ND was expected to blow them out. Then the Irish slept walk thru Senior Day hosting WF where Mike Elko limited the Irish offense making for another game where the Irish were expected to annihilate their opponent more lackluster. Had that ND team not choked vs Stanford in the final game of the year, conventional wisdom said that ND still wouldn’t have been in consideration for the CFP based on their lackluster performance vs inferior teams in BC & WF.

This is college football. Assuming ND wins w/ no problem is not advisable. Remember...”winning is hard”
 
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The offensive performance in 2002, in hindsight, wasn't all that surprising. The offense that year was abysmal, even when Holiday was healthy.

ND ranked 91st in scoring in 2002, and even that is being generous. ND's defense and ST accounted for a lot of the points they ended up averaging. The Purdue game, they won 24-17 and scored all three TD's on defense. They, in fact, did not score an offensive TD until week 3 against Michigan.

Going into the BC game, ND was averaging about 4 turnovers forced per game and had a +12 turnover margin.

Over the final 5 games of the season, the turnover margin was -7.

They rode the defense too much and they wore out in the home stretch.

Thankfully, the offense this year is at least quasi-competent, rather than the unholy trainwreck it was in 2002.
 
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Crazy Balki said:
The offensive performance in 2002, in hindsight, wasn't all that surprising. The offense that year was abysmal, even when Holiday was healthy.

ND ranked 91st in scoring in 2002, and even that is being generous. ND's defense and ST accounted for a lot of the points they ended up averaging. The Purdue game, they won 24-17 and scored all three TD's on defense. They, in fact, did not score an offensive TD until week 3 against Michigan.

Going into the BC game, ND was averaging about 4 turnovers forced per game and had a +12 turnover margin.

Over the final 5 games of the season, the turnover margin was -7.

They rode the defense too much and they wore out in the home stretch.

Thankfully, the offense this year is at least quasi-competent, rather than the unholy trainwreck it was in 2002.
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That is true. ND relied on a defense that produced turnovers that gave the offense a short field. The BC game was an anomaly since the Irish were starting former walk-on Pat Dillingham who quickly came down from earth after his initial performance. I believe TE Gary Godsey played QB vs Purdue that season as well. They could never get anything going on offense.

The 2015 team didn’t have that excuse as they were a high-powered offense. In the BC game, Kizer kept throwing it to the wrong team when he got in the RZ making that game way too close for comfort.
 
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My dad has been writing up some funny / witty game predictions to send to his friends and family for the past few seasons and we just realized it might be worth sharing his predictions online. If you have a few minutes, you should check them out!

Rog's Irish Picks
 
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Irishize said:
That is true. ND relied on a defense that produced turnovers that gave the offense a short field. The BC game was an anomaly since the Irish were starting former walk-on Pat Dillingham who quickly came down from earth after his initial performance. I believe TE Gary Godsey played QB vs Purdue that season as well. They could never get anything going on offense.

The 2015 team didn’t have that excuse as they were a high-powered offense. In the BC game, Kizer kept throwing it to the wrong team when he got in the RZ making that game way too close for comfort.
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It wasn't just the BC game though, the offense struggled in the final quarter of the 2015 season.

They couldn't move the ball for shit against WF the week prior and only had 282 yards. Really, other than Adams' 98 yard touchdown, ND was REALLY bad on offense in that game. Against Stanford, they moved the ball well, but their redzone woes continued and they settled for FG's when they needed TD's.
 
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Legacy93 said:
My dad has been writing up some funny / witty game predictions to send to his friends and family for the past few seasons and we just realized it might be worth sharing his predictions online. If you have a few minutes, you should check them out!

Rog's Irish Picks
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That was a nice read. Thx for sharing. The Irish should win but that’s assuming nothing crazy happens specifically in the TO dept. I definitely don’t see 41-14 happening but it wouldn’t shock me either & would make for a relaxing afternoon!

I think it’s fair to say BC is the 2nd best opponent ND will have played thus far. Their offense allows them to stay in the game for four quarters assuming no turnovers.

I expect ND to win but for BC to cover. Don’t forget it’s 2020, sometimes bad things happen to good teams.
 
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It wasn't just the BC game though, the offense struggled in the final quarter of the 2015 season.

They couldn't move the ball for shit against WF the week prior and only had 282 yards. Really, other than Adams' 98 yard touchdown, ND was REALLY bad on offense in that game. Against Stanford, they moved the ball well, but their redzone woes continued and they settled for FG's when they needed TD's.
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But the offense didn’t struggle to move the ball against BC. They didn’t protect the ball & Kizer made poor decisions in the RZ that turned into picks. ND was their own worst enemy in that game. At least that’s my recollection. TBF, I haven’t looked up the stats...just remember all the RZ TOs

In the WF game, you are correct...after the Adams record breaking TD run it was a boring game where Elko did a great job containing the Irish offense. Elko did that his entire tenure at WF which led to his hirings at ND & TAMU. They would win or lose games with scores like 6-0 or 9-6.

The Stanford game should’ve been a win as we all know. I thought the offense played well enough to win but you make a fair point in the RZ woes. ND & Clemson experienced that last week as well. Sadly, that game will always be hung around the neck of BVG. Imagine if Kizer had taken one more play to get into the EZ? I literally had a buddy text me after the Kizer score “Congrats...great win”. I scolded him that it wasn’t over yet. He disagreed until the kick went thru the uprights at which time his final text was “Sorry”.
 
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Jayson Ademilola is the only player in the 2 deep that is out, and that isn't even a COVID related issue.

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ulukinatme said:
Last time they were looking for a big upset at home they had Bill Romanowski. Did a big pregame video that was shown on the big screen before the team took the field, trying to get the stadium fired up....kind of like the one Metallica did for Virginia Tech. I expect they're going to play this one tomorrow.



Absolutely, they can't make a big bowl so this is typically their season. BC and Pitt live for no reason other than to spoil seasons, they put all their energy into it.





Were you old enough to remember the BC upsets? May have been awhile ago, but they like to play us close still...closer than it ever should be.
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I remember the 1993 game. It broke my heart as I was 16 and was SURE we’d coast to a NC. However, it’s insane to be more concerned with freaking BC than Clemson. Come on
 
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Gonna be interesting to see how much Lea is able to exploit the weaknesses the Staff knows Phil has. Wonder how many of those weaknesses BC has been able to fix
 
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Sorry I have not been around this season, I been working every Saturday when our team is on but I am here today.
 
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Irishize said:
Not to go all Lou Somogyi but...

Strange things have happened in this series. Yes, 1993 was 27 years ago when none of these current players were even born but keep in mind for ND fans, the Irish have never been the same since that fateful day.

Then you got 2002, when #4 ranked 8-0 ND upsets FSU only to come home to South Bend and turn the ball over 5 times vs an inferior BC team. Irish lost by a TD and their season unraveled from there.

2015 was a close call. I don’t recall how many times Kizer & the offense turned the ball over in the RZ but it was enough to make it a close final score in a game that ND was expected to blow them out. Then the Irish slept walk thru Senior Day hosting WF where Mike Elko limited the Irish offense making for another game where the Irish were expected to annihilate their opponent more lackluster. Had that ND team not choked vs Stanford in the final game of the year, conventional wisdom said that ND still wouldn’t have been in consideration for the CFP based on their lackluster performance vs inferior teams in BC & WF.

This is college football. Assuming ND wins w/ no problem is not advisable. Remember...”winning is hard”
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Yeah. Ok. To be MORE worried than BC than Clemson is silly and you can’t convince me otherwise. Not saying we can’t lose, but that’s just silly. To use BC losses from years ago means nothing to this staff and these kids. They’ll be ready. I’m concerned with a letdown, but not more than beating a team with top level talent and speed all over the roster
 
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