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StL/Wild and Bolts/ Leafs are nutty for first round matchups,… the winners of either series could easily meet in the Cup finals
 

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Leafs with the first goal of the playoffs,… I’d be totally cool with them scoring the last too. As a Browns fan I feel the ‘historical giant being the butt of jokes’ thing with them.
 

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Last night was amazing fyi,... one of the better all round nights of hockey I can remember.
 

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My daughter likes watching the Stars with me a bit,… she’s only ten so,…

The reason being, Jason Robertson. He’s a Scottapino (Dad Scottish, mother Filipino) just like she is and he’s originally from so cal like her. You can see it in her eyes, ‘he’s me!!’
 

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Bro, even Habs fans have to feel for Leafs fans at this point,….

At last Bawt-stain is gone.
 

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What a shit way to end my birthday,… at least Boston is out. I will say Rangers fans sure perfected endlessly whining while also being totally pretentious.
 

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I knew when the Pirates won a game without registering a hit that the Pens were somehow doomed.

Looking forward to when camp breaks in the summer for the NFL. Damn it, anyway.
 

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I knew when the Pirates won a game without registering a hit that the Pens were somehow doomed.

Looking forward to when camp breaks in the summer for the NFL. Damn it, anyway.


Pens got the worst bounces since 2010. Sullivan is an incredible coach. Hopefully they see the numbers and run it back next year.
 

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Big love for my Bolts!... Love to see me some Leaf fans crying. Apparently its the worst reffing they have every seen. Just like last year an the year before that and the 30 years before that. Batman (as uncle Joe called him) needs to investigate the poor officiating the Leafs get.
 

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Big love for my Bolts!... Love to see me some Leaf fans crying. Apparently its the worst reffing they have every seen. Just like last year an the year before that and the 30 years before that. Batman (as uncle Joe called him) needs to investigate the poor officiating the Leafs get.
Pretty wild the Leafs go from 18th in penalties called in reg season, to having the most PIM's by 20 in the playoffs. Guess they just became dirtier overnight. The disallowed goal was a joke, would have been fine if it was disallowed and the first TB goal was taken back too.

Oh well, lost to a great team.
 

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Rangers would be working miracles to get to Game 5 if they play like they did against the Pens
 

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Pretty wild the Leafs go from 18th in penalties called in reg season, to having the most PIM's by 20 in the playoffs. Guess they just became dirtier overnight. The disallowed goal was a joke, would have been fine if it was disallowed and the first TB goal was taken back too.

Oh well, lost to a great team.

Lmao that’s interference 100/100 times
 

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If you don't call interference on this goal -

You don't call it on Tavares'. Simple as that. You can't pick and choose when the rules apply.


Completely different situations and you either know that and just trolling or you don’t know hockey. That’s a board battle in the Paul goal, Holl set an open ice pick that led directly to an immediate shot on net. Not even in the realm of similar
 

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Completely different situations and you either know that and just trolling or you don’t know hockey. That’s a board battle in the Paul goal, Holl set an open ice pick that led directly to an immediate shot on net. Not even in the realm of similar
Holl pulled up and fell lol, there's no shot if he's setting a pick he pulls up and falls over. Cirelli was already a non-factor before Holl got in there.
 

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Appreciate the level headed analysis you're able to provide, and ability to have such thick skin to counter points.

Sorry but your counterpoints of ‘a board battle is the same as an open ice pick play’ and ‘Holl didn’t mean to skate into Cirelli so therefore he can’t be penalized for picking someone off’ shows you clearly do not grasp the rules of the game

So allow me to explain why you’re wrong!

*puts referees hat on*

Cirelli is skating in an established skating lane, on Tavares the puck carrier’s hip, Holl skates into Cirelli’s established lane knocking him off of it leading to a direct and immediate scoring opportunity. Whether Holl meant to do it or not is 100% irrelevant and this call gets made 100/100 times regardless of the level of play

Level-headed enough for ya?
 

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Sorry but your counterpoints of ‘a board battle is the same as an open ice pick play’ and ‘Holl didn’t mean to skate into Cirelli so therefore he can’t be penalized for picking someone off’ shows you clearly do not grasp the rules of the game

So allow me to explain why you’re wrong!

*puts referees hat on*

Cirelli is skating in an established skating lane, on Tavares the puck carrier’s hip, Holl skates into Cirelli’s established lane knocking him off of it leading to a direct and immediate scoring opportunity. Whether Holl meant to do it or not is 100% irrelevant and this call gets made 100/100 times regardless of the level of play

Level-headed enough for ya?
Glad you ate a snickers.

The puck had already left the vicinity of Nylander along the boards, and he was held while the Tampa player skated by him. Interference or holding whichever you want, it was a penalty. My problem is not necessarily that the Holl penalty happened, but the inconsistency by the refs. Call both or neither.

The first Paul goal shouldn't have gone in, Campbell should have stopped it. Cirelli didn't have a prayer of stopping Tavares. Refs impacted the series and specifically game 7. It is what is with a mickey mouse league.
 

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Glad you ate a snickers.

The puck had already left the vicinity of Nylander along the boards, and he was held while the Tampa player skated by him. Interference or holding whichever you want, it was a penalty. My problem is not necessarily that the Holl penalty happened, but the inconsistency by the refs. Call both or neither.

The first Paul goal shouldn't have gone in, Campbell should have stopped it. Cirelli didn't have a prayer of stopping Tavares. Refs impacted the series and specifically game 7. It is what is with a mickey mouse league.

I am SHOCKED a Leafs fan thinks the refs impacted the series when the Toronto powerplay with a 60 goal MVP on it goes 0/4 in the two most important games of their lives. Where was 34? 16? 88? How many opportunities did TO have to score in late in G6 AND OT? How many opportunities did they have to score late in G7? Ample in each and they ran into a superior defensive team and inhuman goaltender. Holl had a great front row view of Point crashing the net on the OT winner. Rielly did his best ‘NHL22 controller disconnected’ impression by literally stopping his skating as Paul goes right by him and pokes it in. Brodie has an opportunity to body Paul off the puck on his second goal and instead watches him snizz Campbell below the blocker. The Leafs’ defense has been a JOKE for how long?? And yet it’s still the officiating you complain about? Come on now.

Tampa had better xG and CF% in 3/4 wins, and game seven only went TO’s way because they fired everything at Vasilevskiy the final 30 minutes of clock.

The better team won, fair and square
 

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I am SHOCKED a Leafs fan thinks the refs impacted the series when the Toronto powerplay with a 60 goal MVP on it goes 0/4 in the two most important games of their lives. Where was 34? 16? 88? How many opportunities did TO have to score in late in G6 AND OT? How many opportunities did they have to score late in G7? Ample in each and they ran into a superior defensive team and inhuman goaltender. Holl had a great front row view of Point crashing the net on the OT winner. Rielly did his best ‘NHL22 controller disconnected’ impression by literally stopping his skating as Paul goes right by him and pokes it in. Brodie has an opportunity to body Paul off the puck on his second goal and instead watches him snizz Campbell below the blocker. The Leafs’ defense has been a JOKE for how long?? And yet it’s still the officiating you complain about? Come on now.

Tampa had better xG and CF% in 3/4 wins, and game seven only went TO’s way because they fired everything at Vasilevskiy the final 30 minutes of clock.

The better team won, fair and square

When Tampa has a 21 min differential in PIM's when they had the second most PIM's in the regular season, I guess all of a sudden they became cleaner. Tampa got 56% of the calls lol. Almost 50 less hits than Tampa too.

Leafs had slightly better stats across the board, with the exception of rebound shots above expected that Tampa capitalized on. It was a tight series that had unfortunate breaks.

Great series, glad you're able to enjoy it with grace.
 

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When Tampa has a 21 min differential in PIM's when they had the second most PIM's in the regular season, I guess all of a sudden they became cleaner. Tampa got 56% of the calls lol. Almost 50 less hits than Tampa too.

Leafs had slightly better stats across the board, with the exception of rebound shots above expected that Tampa capitalized on. It was a tight series that had unfortunate breaks.

Great series, glad you're able to enjoy it with grace.

Maybe your coach (who was completely outcoahced in the last two games) shouldn’t have prepared his team to be borderline violent? Once again done in by their own hand yet the only finger pointing is outwards. And you wonder why people laugh at your fanbase?
 

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Maybe your coach (who was completely outcoahced in the last two games) shouldn’t have prepared his team to be borderline violent? Once again done in by their own hand yet the only finger pointing is outwards. And you wonder why people laugh at your fanbase?
Ah yes, the Leafs known for their toughness and violence.

They played very well, and ended up with better stats than Tampa. Hockey is an incredibly random game. I never said reffing was the only thing, preconceived notions of another fan are quite something.

People laugh at the fanbase because it's the largest, and has a ton of morons who spout insane shit. The team chocked in hilarious fashion last year and deserves all the lol's possible. Watching fanbases take laps that the Leafs lost says a lot more about the insecurity some have.
 

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Ah yes, the Leafs known for their toughness and violence.

They played very well, and ended up with better stats than Tampa. Hockey is an incredibly random game. I never said reffing was the only thing, preconceived notions of another fan are quite something.

People laugh at the fanbase because it's the largest, and has a ton of morons who spout insane shit. The team chocked in hilarious fashion last year and deserves all the lol's possible. Watching fanbases take laps that the Leafs lost says a lot more about the insecurity some have.

Your coach said it during the leadup, and the team listened as Clifford gets 5/gamed 7 minutes into the series (there’s 5 of your 21 extra PIM btw)

They scored one more goal than Tampa (even after sprinting out to a 5-0 aggregate). One team was deeper, better defensively and that’s why they won the series
 

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Your coach said it during the leadup, and the team listened as Clifford gets 5/gamed 7 minutes into the series (there’s 5 of your 21 extra PIM btw)

They scored one more goal than Tampa (even after sprinting out to a 5-0 aggregate). One team was deeper, better defensively and that’s why they won the series
I wouldn't have said either team was better defensively than the other. Especially not the team that was behind the other in corsi/fenwick/xG/less shot attempts and made 50 more hits than the other team. They did capitalize and generate better rebound stats though, so I guess in terms of net presence, yes Tampa played better.
 

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I wouldn't have said either team was better defensively than the other. Especially not the team that was behind the other in corsi/fenwick/xG/less shot attempts and made 50 more hits than the other team. They did capitalize and generate better rebound stats though, so I guess in terms of net presence, yes Tampa played better.

You’re talking like Toronto caved Tampa like 60/40 when the reality is it was 52/48 all situations, 50.5/49.5 at 5v5. Do…you not think hitting is apart of defense? Do you know what the purpose of a body check is? Separate puck carrier from the puck. That’s…defense lol

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The entire series was right at 50/50, and the team with the better goaltender and defense won the series. That’s not a coincidence
 
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