ND Women's BB '18 -'19 Season

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I saw an AA team the other day (three levels plus honorable mention.) Arike made second team. Jackie and Jess made third team. Neither Brianna nor Marina were mentioned. I can't gripe about that, but my biases would have put Jess and Jackie on the second team and Arike maybe also but maybe third.

First team was Ionescu (Oregon), Gustafson (Iowa), Collier (Connecticut), Louisville's really good guard, and I think the Mississippi State giant.

One of Baylor's bigs was second team, plus Samuelson (Connecticut), Smith (Stanford), Arike and I forget the fifth.
 

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Jackie is most underrated player in the country IMO. If I had to pick one person off this team to start a team she would be it.
 

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I saw an AA team the other day (three levels plus honorable mention.) Arike made second team. Jackie and Jess made third team. Neither Brianna nor Marina were mentioned. I can't gripe about that, but my biases would have put Jess and Jackie on the second team and Arike maybe also but maybe third.

First team was Ionescu (Oregon), Gustafson (Iowa), Collier (Connecticut), Louisville's really good guard, and I think the Mississippi State giant.

One of Baylor's bigs was second team, plus Samuelson (Connecticut), Smith (Stanford), Arike and I forget the fifth.

That was the AP All American Team.
Arike has made the espnw all America 2nd team and the usbwa 1st team. Jackie and Jess did not appear on the other two lists.
 

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We need Jackie back next year. I remember being stunned when Jewel left early and thinking we were doomed but Jackie would be even worse.
 

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If I remember it was a rough season, by ND's standards, the year after Jewel left. And we didn't lose 5 starters that year.

I believe it was the year Stanford knocked us out of the sweet 16 ending our 5 year run of Final Fours.
 

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I believe it was the year Stanford knocked us out of the sweet 16 ending our 5 year run of Final Fours.

I think we probably have more talent returning next year than we did when Jewel left a year early, but not experience. I think in a couple of years that a starting group of Brunelle, People's, Gilbert, Abby, and Vaughn will be really good, if they all pan out, but a mostly freshman or red shirt freshman group with not 1 returning starter is scary. Vaughn and Abby will be the most experienced of the group, and Danielle if she starts over Sam.

But I imagine for Jackie she has to consider a lot of things. She has been a starter with this group for 3 years. Will she enjoy next year when they are all gone? Does she want this year to be her last memory of ND rather than a possible down year? How much money does she stand to lose by staying? I'm sure there are plenty of reasons to stay, too. She loves ND, loves the coaches, knows she will be the leader next year, she'll have an opportunity to mold the next group of great ND ladies. I would not want to have to make this decision but she's lucky she's in a position to have a choice.
 

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I think we probably have more talent returning next year than we did when Jewel left a year early, but not experience. I think in a couple of years that a starting group of Brunelle, People's, Gilbert, Abby, and Vaughn will be really good, if they all pan out, but a mostly freshman or red shirt freshman group with not 1 returning starter is scary. Vaughn and Abby will be the most experienced of the group, and Danielle if she starts over Sam.

But I imagine for Jackie she has to consider a lot of things. She has been a starter with this group for 3 years. Will she enjoy next year when they are all gone? Does she want this year to be her last memory of ND rather than a possible down year? How much money does she stand to lose by staying? I'm sure there are plenty of reasons to stay, too. She loves ND, loves the coaches, knows she will be the leader next year, she'll have an opportunity to mold the next group of great ND ladies. I would not want to have to make this decision but she's lucky she's in a position to have a choice.

And out of the shadow of others.
 

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I’m surprised no one is talking about Muffet’s comments on gender equality and coaching. They’re national news, and Geno Auriemma already tripped over himself yesterday with comments that were idiotic and assholish even by his low standards.
 

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I’m surprised no one is talking about Muffet’s comments on gender equality and coaching. They’re national news, and Geno Auriemma already tripped over himself yesterday with comments that were idiotic and assholish even by his low standards.

Yeah, the comments of Muffet and Geno showed me once again why we have the best person for the job.
 

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I’m surprised no one is talking about Muffet’s comments on gender equality and coaching. They’re national news, and Geno Auriemma already tripped over himself yesterday with comments that were idiotic and assholish even by his low standards.

I read them and didn't think they were controversial. I made a comment to a friend the other day that the best thing IU could do to get the program fixed is to hire Muffet as HC. Somewhat tongue in cheek, but I think she could be successful on the men's side.
 

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Muffet’s comment was 100% true. Pat Summitt was an advocate for this, but she obviously no longer can do that. Muffet has basically taken that baton and has done a great job of making her voice heard.
 

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Muffet McGraw is possibly the best that I have ever seen at projecting and defending the image of the strong supremely confident woman leader WITHOUT being b!tch or butch.

Someone should be writing books and songs about her and dealing out awards.
 

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Muffet McGraw is possibly the best that I have ever seen at projecting and defending the image of the strong supremely confident woman leader WITHOUT being b!tch or butch.

Someone should be writing books and songs about her and dealing out awards.

LOL....probably true...
 

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What were Geno's comments? Can't imagine how much of a little bitch he will be when he is picking through Muffet's crumbs on the recruiting trail.

Such a Coach K - play with far superior talent and bask in the glory of your supreme coaching ability.
 

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What were Geno's comments? Can't imagine how much of a little bitch he will be when he is picking through Muffet's crumbs on the recruiting trail.

Such a Coach K - play with far superior talent and bask in the glory of your supreme coaching ability.

Wish that were true about recruiting in 20 but Geno’s off to a strong start already
 

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What were Geno's comments? Can't imagine how much of a little bitch he will be when he is picking through Muffet's crumbs on the recruiting trail.

Such a Coach K - play with far superior talent and bask in the glory of your supreme coaching ability.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So, apparently Geno has weighed in from Albany! <br><br>(Re: <a href="https://t.co/lPvr4jbcDT">https://t.co/lPvr4jbcDT</a>) <a href="https://t.co/rxmuHkIlu4">pic.twitter.com/rxmuHkIlu4</a></p>— Lindsay Gibbs (@linzsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/linzsports/status/1112073324899827712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Starts by implying she is only where she is because of men, then says he doesn't know anything about it, then ignores that she gave the comments months ago in response to a direct question as part of a larger article, then implies her motivations for making such comments is that she's either scared or jealous of programs run by men.
 

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Notice the sweatshirt?

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A voice everybody should hear. <a href="https://t.co/0u7HUlQ8id">https://t.co/0u7HUlQ8id</a></p>— Barack Obama (@BarackObama) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1114202323767701504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A voice everybody should hear. <a href="https://t.co/0u7HUlQ8id">https://t.co/0u7HUlQ8id</a></p>— Barack Obama (@BarackObama) <a href="https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1114202323767701504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

One of the few times I agree with Obama.
 

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I’m surprised no one is talking about Muffet’s comments on gender equality and coaching. They’re national news, and Geno Auriemma already tripped over himself yesterday with comments that were idiotic and assholish even by his low standards.

Probably concerned the thread will be relegated to the Potlitical Threads, aka, The Safe Zone for the thin skinned and sore losers.

Meanwhile it's GAME DAY! On to the games.
 

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Early Game

Early Game

Massey Predication

Baylor 76
Oregon 70

Probability Win 70%


RealTimeRPI

Baylor 73
Oregon 58

5Dimes
Baylor -8
U/O 147.5

Probability Win 75.2%
 
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CT v ND

CT v ND

Massey Predication

CT 77
ND 81

Probability Win 62%


RealTimeRPI

CT 70
ND 86

Probability Win 77.5%


5Dimes

ND -2.5 O/U 157.5
 

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Women's Final Four predictions: Who will win in Tampa?
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TAMPA, Fla. -- Before the final three games of the women's NCAA tournament tip off, our panel predicts which teams will win Friday in the Final Four and who will hoist the national championship trophy come Sunday.

Andrea Adelson, Charlie Creme, LaChina Robinson and Mechelle Voepel -- all of whom are on site in Tampa covering the Final Four for espnW -- as well as ESPN's Graham Hays, Elizabeth Merrill and Kevin Pelton make their game-by-game picks:

Oregon vs. Baylor 6 for BU; 1 for ORE
ESPN2/ESPN App: 7 p.m. ET Friday

Adelson: Baylor
Creme: Baylor
Hays: Oregon
Merrill: Baylor
Pelton: Baylor
Robinson: Baylor
Voepel: Baylor


UConn vs. Notre Dame 5 for ND; 2 for CT

ESPN2/ESPN App: 9 p.m. ET Friday

Adelson: Notre Dame
Creme: Notre Dame
Hays: UConn
Merrill: UConn
Pelton: Notre Dame
Robinson: Notre Dame
Voepel: Notre Dame



Predicted NCAA champion- 3 for ND; 3 for BU
Adelson: Baylor
Creme: Notre Dame
Hays: UConn
Merrill: Baylor
Pelton: Baylor
Robinson: Notre Dame
Voepel: Notre Dame
 

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Ducks Going Quackers

Ducks Going Quackers

Timeout 4:59 - 1st

Ore 11 BU 4


Brown and Cox both have 1 PF.

Ore 2-3 from arc

Ore +1 Reb
 

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Women's Final Four: UConn and Notre Dame bring out the best in each other
Mechelle Voepel espnW.com

TAMPA, Fla. -- Ask Geno Auriemma about his favorite rivalries to watch and the UConn coach goes to the Eagles-Cowboys in the NFL and the Yankees-Red Sox in Major League Baseball.

But when it comes to women's team sports, few things are as intense as the two women's basketball rivalries in which his Huskies have been involved, with Tennessee and Notre Dame.

Their 50th game with the Irish will take place Friday at Amalie Arena as UConn and Notre Dame meet in the Women's Final Four. It's their eighth meeting at the Final Four, with the Irish winning in the semifinals in 2001, 2011, 2012 and last year on Notre Dame guard Arike Ogunbowale's buzzer-beater in overtime.

UConn has won against Notre Dame in the 2013 semifinals, and the 2014 and 2015 championship games. The latter was here in Tampa when the Huskies were led by superstar Breanna Stewart, then in the midst of winning four championships.

This is a different kind of UConn team than some of the past. These Huskies might not have, as Auriemma puts it, an "iconic" player like Stewart, Diana Taurasi or Maya Moore, the kind who in the huddle says, "What are you guys worried about? You got me."

But the Huskies still have a ton of talent, including first-team All-American Napheesa Collier and fellow senior Katie Lou Samuelson, whose 29-point performance in the regional final victory over Louisville was the definition of clutch. They have point guard Crystal Dangerfield, who took over the fourth quarter of their Sweet 16 win over UCLA, and forward Megan Walker, who was strong on the boards in both regional games.

And there's freshman guard Christyn Williams, who burst out of the gate flying in the Huskies' 89-71 victory at Notre Dame on Dec. 2. She finished with 28 points then, but says it wasn't her best game of the season because she didn't do enough other things, getting only one rebound and one assist. That's the kind of thing Auriemma likes to hear.

Last year when UConn lost that heartbreaker to Notre Dame, Williams was back home in Arkansas watching the game with friends at a restaurant. How did she react to her future school losing?

"I don't even think I finished my meal," she said. "That was my team going down for the second year in a row in the exact same way."

Indeed, in 2017, the Huskies also lost in the semifinals in overtime on a buzzer-beater, that one to Mississippi State. Collier and Samuelson have kept alive those memories for fuel but don't want to give them too much power.

It helps to have a youngster like Williams around, someone who has the kind of enthusiasm and joy that perks up everybody.

"It makes it more a realization that this is something special that you've got to cherish," Samuelson said.

Meanwhile, Notre Dame comes into this Final Four with four starters -- Ogunbowale, Jackie Young, Jessica Shepard and Marina Mabrey -- who were on the floor for last year's national championship. And there's Brianna Turner, who returned this season from an ACL injury that kept her sidelined in 2017-18.

Ogunbowale said the Irish have tried to keep the focus on this year, and not on the past. And while all involved acknowledge there is heat to this rivalry, there is also plenty of mutual respect.

"We've had some great meetings, and they are a great program," Ogunbowale said of the Huskies. "It's always such a competitive game when we play each other. Geno is a Hall of Fame coach, and he's done so many things for women's basketball, so there's always respect there. But ... when I step on the court, that really goes out the window. It's just basketball, and what I can do for my team."

And if Friday's game again comes down to making a do-or-die shot, Ogunbowale won't shy away from taking it.

"Even when I was younger and maybe wasn't capable of making a big shot, I still wanted to shoot it," Ogunbowale said. "I think it's just the confidence that I've always had in myself."

That's a trait -- confidence -- Notre Dame developed against UConn in their days together in the Big East. The Irish didn't always have it to the degree they do now, but they developed it. And it's something of which the Huskies are aware.

"We know going in that Notre Dame doesn't ever play scared of us," Samuelson said. "There are times you can feel teams just being scared of the name 'UConn.' That's not something Notre Dame has an issue with.

"This [rivalry] is something you carry with you after you leave here. It's something that everyone knows around the country, and a game people tune into just because of the names."

UConn leads the all-time series with Notre Dame 37-12. When they were both in the Big East, they could meet as many as four times in a season, and Notre Dame coach Muffet McGraw thought that much familiarity bred a little too much contempt. She's glad to be in the ACC, with UConn in the American Athletic Conference. They still have their regular-season game, and the possibility of an NCAA matchup. That's enough.

"I think a little distance has been good for us," McGraw said.

The Huskies' series with Tennessee ran from 1995 to 2007 before it was cancelled by Lady Vols coach Pat Summitt. UConn and Tennessee are set to resume their series next season. But in the absence of Tennessee-UConn, Notre Dame-UConn blossomed.

How great has it been to be part of both those rivalries?

"I like to think we've been pretty good for a long time, and we bring out the best in other people," Auriemma said. "And maybe other teams like Notre Dame and Tennessee bring out the best in us, too."
 
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