ND Defensive Coordinator search- 2025

mrmcgrail

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He's been a dc and he's a great safeties coach and teacher of tackling. Allows mickens then more time to work cb and be more of a game planner and have a guy who has done it before to help out. I guarantee ash is going to be up in the booth and mickens on the sidelines. I think it's a good thing having him here
 

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From what I’ve gathered, Ash is a good position coach + is advanced schematically, which has likely only increased in the NFL.

The downside, not known well personality wise. Unknown if really a plus value play caller.

I would say Golden had the same play calling concern, but was the opposite reputation personality wise
 

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I’m not going to blindly praise Coach Free, but he dropped the ball big time here. If I’m Denbrock, I’m also pissed. Denbrock personally dealt with a piss poor coordinator when he was with LSU…they field just an average defense and they win the NC. This guy can’t recruit, apparently is hard to deal with it, bounces from job to job, and has yet to produce noteworthy results. A bad coordinator can ruin a team and coach. I hope I’m wrong and I’d love to run back, own it, and eat my crow, but right now, this flat out sucks.
 

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Imma tell you this, as good as the DBs were last year, they'll be better this year. He's a good safeties coach. He has a ton of experience doing that.
We’re not going to be better when we’re losing Watts and Morrison ….
 

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Joe Rudolph coached with him at Wisconsin if he was huge piece of shit I'm sure he would have voiced that
 

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I’m not going to blindly praise Coach Free, but he dropped the ball big time here. If I’m Denbrock, I’m also pissed. Denbrock personally dealt with a piss poor coordinator when he was with LSU…they field just an average defense and they win the NC. This guy can’t recruit, apparently is hard to deal with it, bounces from job to job, and has yet to produce noteworthy results. A bad coordinator can ruin a team and coach. I hope I’m wrong and I’d love to run back, own it, and eat my crow, but right now, this flat out sucks.
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I’m not going to blindly praise Coach Free, but he dropped the ball big time here. If I’m Denbrock, I’m also pissed. Denbrock personally dealt with a piss poor coordinator when he was with LSU…they field just an average defense and they win the NC. This guy can’t recruit, apparently is hard to deal with it, bounces from job to job, and has yet to produce noteworthy results. A bad coordinator can ruin a team and coach. I hope I’m wrong and I’d love to run back, own it, and eat my crow, but right now, this flat out sucks.
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Gray and moore were true freshman and true sophomores last year and made it to the natty.....and yes watts is great but shuler was a true sophomore starter and we have stroman coming in and our best pass rushers back.....what are you getting at
 

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I’d wager he’ll be gone in less than 12 months now. Then you’re stuck with full DC Chris Ash in 2026.
My guess is that Ash is a mentor for Mickens and he’s the one who moves on in a year or two.
 

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Why blindly praise a bad hire)
You don't have any idea - none whatsoever - that this is a bad hire. You don't know Chris Ash, you have never interviewed Chris Ash, you have never played for Chris Ash, you are completely judging this by what you have heard from other people - and most of other people don't know Chris Ash either...breathe...
 

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Did you solely mean safeties or all of the defensive backs?

I'm assuming we go back to having a safeties coach and a corners coach, since both position coaches will be co-DCs.

A lot of assumptions on my part that we've yet to confirm.
 

Hautian Domer

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You don't have any idea - none whatsoever - that this is a bad hire. You don't know Chris Ash, you have never interviewed Chris Ash, you have never played for Chris Ash, you are completely judging this by what you have heard from other people - and most of other people don't know Chris Ash either...breathe...
I can look at past results and his track record. It’s not overly impressive.
 
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