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irish o'phile said:
So, is Golden a good option? This thing has all the characteristics of being a thing given his historical relationship with Freeman.
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I don't think so. He's not a fit scheme wise. Driskell just said new DC 1) will be simular scheme wise or 2) willing to adapt .

Maybe Golden is willing to adapt but he ran a different system when we has head coach and DC.

If true this probably means no Derrick Mason unless Derrick Mason is willing to adapt.
 
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If potential DCs aren't getting input on staffing AND have to adjust scheme/vocab to existing we likely aren't going to snag some of the employment pool.

If we need to be willing to cave on one I prefer it to be staffing. They are open anyway.

​​​​​​Perhaps Washington's ability to coach either LB or DL makes him extra valuable.
 
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NDdomer2 said:
If potential DCs aren't getting input on staffing AND have to adjust scheme/vocab to existing we likely aren't going to snag some of the employment pool.

If we need to be willing to cave on one I prefer it to be staffing. They are open anyway.

​​​​​​Perhaps Washington's ability to coach either LB or DL makes him extra valuable.
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This isn't how it works at Bama / UGA with their DCs. You're essentially told you are running the Bellichik system (scaled down slightly for college athletes) with coaches already in place.

I get Marcus Freeman doesn't have as many stars and badges as Nick Saban. But that's how they do it down there.
 
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chicago51 said:
New rule: If you would not consider someone if they weren't an alum, you probably shouldn't consider them, even though they are an alum.
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I think it depends on the player. Tyler Stockton may have coaching experience, but Ball State hasn't been lighting the world on fire defensively. On the flip side, a guy like Justin Tuck may have no coaching experience but I could see players working hard and playing for an ND and NFL legend. Could certainly see recruiting being easier for one than the other too. We've done this before <flashes Super Bowl rings>
 
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Feel like Satterfield is a sinking ship there. Not sure that’d be the smartest move for Taylor
 
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Not to be a negative nancy but the staff turnover after supposed "continuity" was established with Freeman is kind of a disaster. Taylor/Elston were two of the top position coaches on the staff. I understand why people would want Taylor for OC tho.
 
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First time coach that has no experience putting a full staff together and can’t go a week with out replacing one. This is not good.
 
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Not to be a negative nancy but the staff turnover after supposed "continuity" was established with Freeman is kind of a disaster. Taylor/Elston were two of the top position coaches on the staff. I understand why people would want Taylor for OC tho.
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I always figured it was conditional and more of a get-through-the-bowl-game type of loyalty. Elston more than all the others, precisely because of his intense loyalty to Kelly. If he wasn't getting the DC position, he was more than likely to leave as he did. The same with Taylor somewhat considering his success as a coach. What is the upward mobility with Tommy as OC? I think continuity is important, but with so many available positions for career mobility and increased salaries to boost, it's almost unrealistic in today's CFB world. I would almost expect Taylor to leave for this position. You can play the short money now for the long money.
 
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First time coach that has no experience putting a full staff together and can’t go a week with out replacing one. This is not good.
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Again, I think turnover is a realistic consideration. For this reason, the judgments seem somewhat hasty. The fact that we didn't see attrition when Kelly bailed has to be considered if you are going to balance out the actual circumstances Freeman has been facing.
 
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IrishLax said:
Not to be a negative nancy but the staff turnover after supposed "continuity" was established with Freeman is kind of a disaster. Taylor/Elston were two of the top position coaches on the staff. I understand why people would want Taylor for OC tho.
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I agree.
 
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We kept MF, Rees, McNulty, Mickens, all GAs but one I believe, safeties coach.

Chose to let Quinn, Polian, and Del go.

Lost a career position coach who's an ordinary recruiter to a lateral move after 12 years (LOL). And someone wants an up and coming RB coach who's set to get a mid level OC shot soon.

The ship is not sinking - we'll all be happy and optimistic in a week I bet.

IMO we upgraded OL, ST, and WR. Watch what happens with DL and RB if needed. I think the only one that's not an upgrade is RB if we have to replace. I'll take this overhaul that's unfolding all day.
 
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I would go back to Taylor and offer him the co-offensive coordinator role and a pay rise. We are putting too much faith in Rees. I also think Rees would be sensible enough to accept that.
 
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IrishLax said:
Not to be a negative nancy but the staff turnover after supposed "continuity" was established with Freeman is kind of a disaster. Taylor/Elston were two of the top position coaches on the staff. I understand why people would want Taylor for OC tho.
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Continuity just went out the door
 
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Taylor I’d be intrigued if was ever even offered to go to LSU. BK knew he’d be able to get a good RBs coach. I view Rees has staying because he wanted to, McNulty as staying because of Rees, Mickens because of Freeman. Of course Elston staying because he wanted to also until scUM called. Taylor and COL were always the ones that likely stayed out of pure job security.
 
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IrishLax said:
Not to be a negative nancy but the staff turnover after supposed "continuity" was established with Freeman is kind of a disaster. Taylor/Elston were two of the top position coaches on the staff. I understand why people would want Taylor for OC tho.
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Taylor is getting a promotion to advance his career. He was probably gone after this season even if Kelly hadn't left.
 
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IrishLax said:
Not to be a negative nancy but the staff turnover after supposed "continuity" was established with Freeman is kind of a disaster. Taylor/Elston were two of the top position coaches on the staff. I understand why people would want Taylor for OC tho.
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Elston is the only surprise but when you take a step back and analyze it, it makes sense. Should Taylor leave, he’s getting a legit promotion. Del/Quinn/Polian were expected departures that we all wanted. I wouldn’t necessarily call it a disaster.
 
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Elston is the only surprise but when you take a step back and analyze it, it makes sense. Should Taylor leave, he’s getting a legit promotion. Del/Quinn/Polian were expected departures that we all wanted. I wouldn’t necessarily call it a disaster.
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Definitely not a disaster.

But if I'm Taylor, I'm thinking really hard about moving to Louisville.

Satterfield is going to be on the hot-seat after coming off back to back losing seasons and the very questionable decision to not appoint an OC last year.

Not to mention, it's very unlikely that Satterfield is going to relinquish playcalling duties.

If I'm Taylor I'm looking at somewhere with a bit more stability and a bit more autonomy for myself.

Way I see it, him going to UL to be the OC would essentially be for a title and maybe a pay-bump, but I can't imagine ND wouldn't be able to match it, unless UL goes balls to the wall, which for a guy like Taylor, I can't see happening.
 
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