NCAA to allow players to profit off image/likeness

[MPClinton22]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NCAA voted unanimously Tuesday to allow college athletes to make money from their name, image and likeness "in a manner consistent with the collegiate model." <a href="https://t.co/BUWfeXrolC">https://t.co/BUWfeXrolC</a></p>— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1189240800745545730?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NCAA voted unanimously Tuesday to allow college athletes to make money from their name, image and likeness "in a manner consistent with the collegiate model." <a href="https://t.co/BUWfeXrolC">https://t.co/BUWfeXrolC</a></p>— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1189240800745545730?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Long overdue IMO. NCAA was making buku bucks on these athletes.

Now bring back NCAA Football video games, dammit.

 

[MPClinton22]

I’ll be curious to see what this actually means though. The phrase “consistent with the collegiate model” makes me think this won’t be quite as radical a shift as all the headlines are making it out to be.

 

[ACamp1900]

So, EA NCAA Football 21???

 

[Irish YJ]

I've said for a while, this could actually be huge for ND recruiting given our fan base, and our fan base's willingness to spend on merchandise. I'm sure though that ND will do everything possible to shoot their foot off with a missile launcher trying to avoid this.

 

[calvegas04]

So, EA NCAA Football 21???

They are going to have to get new contracts with all the schools and now possibly each player... this might still not happen

 

[Free Manera]

I've said for a while, this could actually be huge for ND recruiting given our fan base, and our fan base's willingness to spend on merchandise. I'm sure though that ND will do everything possible to shoot their foot off with a missile launcher trying to avoid this.

Agree with both sentiments. 1. The exposure and financial cache of ND and the alumni base could totally turn this into a huge advantage. Get an ND degree to set you up for the future, plus make some money now? Bring in all the 5 stars.

But, 2. ND will probably pull some nonsense prohibiting their athletes from signing any contracts or something to make it a hindrance rather than an advantage.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

So, EA NCAA Football 21???

Yes!

They are going to have to get new contracts with all the schools and now possibly each player... this might still not happen

Dang

 

[Meatloaf]

But, 2. ND will probably pull some nonsense prohibiting their athletes from signing any contracts or something to make it a hindrance rather than an advantage.

Given how it's becoming increasingly written into law accross the US, they eventually won't have a leg to stand on legally.

 

[koonja]

Whatever this means, I expect ND to do it in a way that puts them at a crippling competitive disadvantage.

 

[MPClinton22]

One fun angle to this whole thing though is that hopefully this brings little old Clemson back down to earth. After all, multi-millionaire Dabo Swinney hates the idea of players being paid.

 

[Irish YJ]

Agree with both sentiments. 1. The exposure and financial cache of ND and the alumni base could totally turn this into a huge advantage. Get an ND degree to set you up for the future, plus make some money now? Bring in all the 5 stars.

But, 2. ND will probably pull some nonsense prohibiting their athletes from signing any contracts or something to make it a hindrance rather than an advantage.

IMO, trying to fight this if you're ND is incredibly stupid. ND has so many recruiting disadvantages. Letting the players earn some cashola legally does zero to diminish the "Catholic experience". If anything, it levels the playing field a bit.

5 star RB recruit - "Coach, I hear classes are really tough. I just want to get to the NFL and make the cheese. "

ND Coach - "Did you know we are always top 5 in merchandise royalties. If you come to ND and succeed on the field, you'll be among the highest paid players in the league, and you'll also have the education to help you keep and grow your money."

 

[Free Manera]

IMO, trying to fight this if you're ND is incredibly stupid. ND has so many recruiting disadvantages. Letting the players earn some cashola legally does zero to diminish the "Catholic experience". If anything, it levels the playing field a bit.

5 star RB recruit - "Coach, I hear classes are really tough. I just want to get to the NFL and make the cheese. "

ND Coach - "Did you know we are always top 5 in merchandise royalties. If you come to ND and succeed on the field, you'll be among the highest paid players in the league, and you'll also have the education to help you keep and grow your money."

Agree 100%, but I just can't trust ND to use this as an advantage.

 

[Irish#1]

Okay, I didn't read anything on this, but doesn't this just let the bagmen open their pockets books even more and legally? Athlete at school A gets paid $1,000 to shoot a car commercial. Athlete at school B gets paid $5,000 to shoot a car commercial. Or a handful of athletes from a team get paid $500 to shoot commercials while all 85 on Alabama get paid $500 to shoot a commercial.

 

[IrishLax]

I’ll be curious to see what this actually means though. The phrase “consistent with the collegiate model” makes me think this won’t be quite as radical a shift as all the headlines are making it out to be.

Astute observation. They did not say "Olympic model" for a reason. There are going to be a shitton of restrictions and red tape.

 

[SouthernIndianaNDFan]

Okay, I didn't read anything on this, but doesn't this just let the bagmen open their pockets books even more and legally? Athlete A gets paid $1,000 to shoot a car commercial. Athlete B gets paid $5,000 to shoot a car commercial. Or a handful of athletes from a team get paid $500 to shoot commercials while all 85 on Alabama get paid $500 to shoot a commercial.

That's an interesting dynamic man, and maybe that allows ND to blur the lines a bit on "cheating" to keep up with the big boys.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

Whatever this means, I expect ND to do it in a way that puts them at a crippling competitive disadvantage.

Lmao, this. Well said.

 

[IrishLion]

This doesn't mean anything, yet.

It's a meaningless statement/non-decision from an NCAA committee that says "states are already doing this, so we won't actively block what they are doing... yet."

It's possible that this goes as far as the NCAA entering a licensed agreement with EA Sports and then gives players a choice of (1) free copy of the game or (2) the chance to opt out of inclusion.

There's also a chance that it opens up the possibility for boosters to start using athletes for advertising and all the fun that would follow (the Wild Collegiate West!), but this is going to have to go through all 400+ schools that are in the NCAA, or however many it is now, before we know that.

Everyone thinks the bagmen in the dirty south are going to have a field day using players to sell cars and whatnot, but I think you guys are overestimating how loose most of those guys would be with their money.

There's a difference between the shady dealership owner handing $10,000 cash to a player, and the same guy being willing to sign a $1M contract with a minor that would be legally binding.

 

[SouthernIndianaNDFan]

This doesn't mean anything, yet.

It's a meaningless statement/non-decision from an NCAA committee that says "states are already doing this, so we won't actively block what they are doing... yet."

It's possible that this goes as far as the NCAA entering a licensed agreement with EA Sports and then gives players a choice of (1) free copy of the game or (2) the chance to opt out of inclusion.

There's also a chance that it opens up the chance for boosters to start using athletes for advertising and all the fun that would follow (the Wild Collegiate West!), but this is going to have to go through all 400+ schools that are in the NCAA, or however many it is now.

Even Western Governers University? (Pretty sure Bama plays them)

 

[Jerry]

Whatever the payments are (individual or spread amongst all athletes)? ND should be able to earn/pay as much as any other big time school. I’m thinking this could help in the Midwest (Wisconsin, Illinois and Indiana schools won’t be able to compete with ND’s brand) and possibly in Nor Cal and even the pacific NW in general. Stanford has been stealing kids that would have went to ND in the past but now if you can make twice as much money at ND it could sway future recruits back to South Bend.

 

[SouthernIndianaNDFan]

Whatever the payments are (individual or spread amongst all athletes)? ND should be able to earn/pay as much as any other big time school. I’m thinking this could help in the Midwest (Wisconsin, Illinois and Indiana schools won’t be able to compete with ND’s brand) and possibly in Nor Cal and even the pacific NW in general. Stanford has been stealing kids that would have went to ND in the past but now if you can make twice as much money at ND it could sway future recruits back to South Bend.

Idk if it'll be that binary: Attend school X and get Y amount of dollars. It's probably more of a partical physics equation, unfortunately.

 

[Irish YJ]

Okay, I didn't read anything on this, but doesn't this just let the bagmen open their pockets books even more and legally? Athlete A gets paid $1,000 to shoot a car commercial. Athlete B gets paid $5,000 to shoot a car commercial. Or a handful of athletes from a team get paid $500 to shoot commercials while all 85 on Alabama get paid $500 to shoot a commercial.

I don't see commercials and that kind of stuff being "in-play". I think it will be mostly, if not all, royalty type stuff. Video games that use a teams players/numbers/likeness, jerseys with a player's name or number, "official" autographs (through the university), etc..

 

[koonja]

ND's response will be to withhold offering student-athlete scholariships to truly find out which players love Jesus above all.

 

[ACamp1900]

ND's response will be to withhold offering student-athlete scholariships to truly find out which players love Jesus above all.

Just become a tOSU fan koon... you'll live your best life.

 

[IrishLion]

Whatever the payments are (individual or spread amongst all athletes)? ND should be able to earn/pay as much as any other big time school. I’m thinking this could help in the Midwest (Wisconsin, Illinois and Indiana schools won’t be able to compete with ND’s brand) and possibly in Nor Cal and even the pacific NW in general. Stanford has been stealing kids that would have went to ND in the past but now if you can make twice as much money at ND it could sway future recruits back to South Bend.

Idk if it'll be that binary: Attend school X and get Y amount of dollars. It's probably more of a partical physics equation, unfortunately.

Schools aren't going to be paying players money at all, above what they already do via stipend (and via tuition, books, etc., but that's not 'money' in this sense).

This just allows them to profit off of their NIL without losing eligibility, meaning they could sell jerseys, sign autographs for cash, be in a videogame and get compensated for it, sign endorsement deals, etc.

The schools will likely agree to it as long as they aren't on the hook for anything more than they already are, financially, and as long as there are plenty of regulations in place after an exploratory committee looks for all the loopholes.

This is going to take years to figure out lol.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

This doesn't mean anything, yet.

It's a meaningless statement/non-decision from an NCAA committee that says "states are already doing this, so we won't actively block what they are doing... yet."

It's possible that this goes as far as the NCAA entering a licensed agreement with EA Sports and then gives players a choice of (1) free copy of the game or (2) the chance to opt out of inclusion.

There's also a chance that it opens up the possibility for boosters to start using athletes for advertising and all the fun that would follow (the Wild Collegiate West!), but this is going to have to go through all 400+ schools that are in the NCAA, or however many it is now, before we know that.

Everyone thinks the bagmen in the dirty south are going to have a field day using players to sell cars and whatnot, but I think you guys are overestimating how loose most of those guys would be with their money.

There's a difference between the shady dealership owner handing $10,000 cash to a player, and the same guy being willing to sign a $1M contract with a minor that would be legally binding.

They've had a working group crafting potential rules for months.

They held a meaningless vote so they didn't have to keep publicly defending the current rules.

 

[Jerry]

Schools aren't going to be paying players money at all, above what they already do via stipend (and via tuition, books, etc., but that's not 'money' in this sense).

This just allows them to profit off of their NIL without losing eligibility, meaning they could sell jerseys, sign autographs for cash, be in a videogame and get compensated for it, sign endorsement deals, etc.

The schools will likely agree to it as long as they aren't on the hook for anything more than they already are, financially, and as long as there are plenty of regulations in place after an exploratory committee looks for all the loopholes.

This is going to take years to figure out lol.

But the schools own the rights to the jerseys. So players aren’t going to be selling knockoffs in the parking lot. That money will have to go through the school and then they will pay the players.

 

[koonja]

Just become a tOSU fan koon... you'll live your best life.

I really want to but I just can't. Heart is not in it.

 

[T-Boone]

Would ND players names/faces be well recognised in say Chicago or NY?
You would think the starting QB would do well.
It would probably make the captaincy a more prized thing.

 

[Luckylucci]

I'd say this is very good news.

https://news.nd.edu/news/statement-...o-monetize-their-names-images-and-likenesses/