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NBA Finals Game 1

9:00 PM

Miami at San Antonio

Favorite: San Antonio -4.5
Over/Under: 198.5
Moneylines: Miami +170 San Antonio -200

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Terrible end to a great game. Hope the Lebron thing is just cramps. Amazing how incredibly average the Heat are without him.
 

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This is where I'd normally point and laugh at Lebron for being such a ridiculous pussy, but I'd rather wait until they lose the series.
 

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This is where I'd normally point and laugh at Lebron for being such a ridiculous pussy, but I'd rather wait until they lose the series.

Hockey players skate off with broken femurs, LBJ has to be carried 4 feet bc of cramps lol. Ill make fun of him now and later.
 

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Lebron's vagina, it be sandy. (You kind of forced that one, so it doesn't count)
 

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Damn, i guess nobody has actually had leg cramps before. Nobody just plays through those, it hurts like hell but its not really the pain, its the fact that your muscle is so tight it doesnt even move correctly to run. Players dont just run that off like a rolled ankle or something. Its ignorant.
 

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Damn, i guess nobody has actually had leg cramps before. Nobody just plays through those, it hurts like hell but its not really the pain, its the fact that your muscle is so tight it doesnt even move correctly to run. Players dont just run that off like a rolled ankle or something. Its ignorant.

Don't bother. Last year, someone was on here claiming that they play through those all the time in their rec league.
 

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Most of the ire IMO comes from his refusal to smack away help and reach the bench that was only feet away on his own. He ripped his team's heart out by having a geriatric pick him up instead of doing whatever it took to get there by himself. It was a symbolical thing.
 

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Most of the ire IMO comes from his refusal to smack away help and reach the bench that was only feet away on his own. He ripped his team's heart out by having a geriatric pick him up instead of doing whatever it took to get there by himself. It was a symbolical thing.

No the ire comes from the fact that he's Lebron. Tony Parker or Tim Duncan or Dwayne Wade could have done the exact same thing and no one would have batted an eye. But because it's Lebron it's symbolic because he lacks heart. Even though he carries his team in a way no one else does. I'm so tired of people, especially Jordan fanboys, dismissing everything he does as though acknowledging Lebron's greatness will diminish Jordan's.

We're likely watching a top 5 player of all time. Whether you like the dude or not, enjoy the play.
 

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I'm laughing at the guys on ESPN Radio and Sports Center saying that the A/C problem was the deciding factor of the game. Apparently LeBron was the only one playing with no A/C? The LeBron dick riding at ESPN is unbelievable
 

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After the game at the presser, a "reporter" asked Spoelstra if he thought SA might have purposely turned the AC off to help trigger cramps in James (because he has a history of it).

To a man, every coach and player I saw interviewed after the game said the lack of AC was an issue...but it was an equal issue for both teams. So...essentially no factor in the outcome of the game.
 

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I'm laughing at the guys on ESPN Radio and Sports Center saying that the A/C problem was the deciding factor of the game. Apparently LeBron was the only one playing with no A/C? The LeBron dick riding at ESPN is unbelievable

Exactly. They act like there were nine guys who played in A/C and only LeBron has I'm 90 degree heat.

Also, I would have repped you but I saw you were a font-running Steeler fan. No qualms with Western PA Steeler fans. Just the phonies.
 

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No the ire comes from the fact that he's Lebron. Tony Parker or Tim Duncan or Dwayne Wade could have done the exact same thing and no one would have batted an eye. But because it's Lebron it's symbolic because he lacks heart. Even though he carries his team in a way no one else does. I'm so tired of people, especially Jordan fanboys, dismissing everything he does as though acknowledging Lebron's greatness will diminish Jordan's.

We're likely watching a top 5 player of all time. Whether you like the dude or not, enjoy the play.

If Lebron is content being on an equal level to the guys mentioned above, then yes, it isn't fair the media jumped him for being a pussy.

If Lebron really is a top 5 player, then we need to hold him to a higher standard, and blow him up for being a pussy, plain and simple.
 

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He was held out by his coach after the muscle got to the point he could use it at all. You can physically play with the flu. You can't with bad cramps. End of story.
 

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What does the flu have to do with it? And even more importantly, what "top 5" player gets held out by a coach in the Finals, much less a place holding pipsqueak of a coach??
 

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Ive seen people limp aside after blowing out an ACL. I guess if he blows his knee out he should still limp around the court too. Cramps obviously arent as bad but he cant physically move halfway decent then theres no sense of being on the court. Not to mention ive never seen someone have a full leg cramp and play on like nothings wrong.
 

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Because Spoelstra knows if you play too soon after a cramp you run the risk of cramping up again sooner. Games 2-6 are more important than game 1.
 

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If Lebron is content being on an equal level to the guys mentioned above, then yes, it isn't fair the media jumped him for being a pussy.

If Lebron really is a top 5 player, then we need to hold him to a higher standard, and blow him up for being a pussy, plain and simple.

It's not about being a pussy. He was injured. Sorry if you don't consider a cramp an injury. But Lebron is easily the most important person on the Heat roster. If I remember correctly, he was leading his team at that exact moment in 7 statistical categories. The Spurs? 7 different players led those different categories. If he stayed in a game to win game 1 but tore a muscle, the heat are done in the series because he's basically the entire team.

Also, would you consider Magic Johnson a top 5 player all time? Because he pulled a hamstring during Game 2 of the 1989 Finals. He didn't just miss that game, he missed the entire Finals.

What a huge pussy.
 

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Also, would you consider Magic Johnson a top 5 player all time? Because he pulled a hamstring during Game 2 of the 1989 Finals. He didn't just miss that game, he missed the entire Finals.

What a huge pussy.


Magic limped off the court and didn't get carried by some old guy.
 

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Magic limped off the court and didn't get carried by some old guy.

So Lebron isn't a top five player because of how he left the court? Hahaha are you kidding me?? You guys are some grade A haters.
 

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My point was/is Lebron is going to get more flak for being a pussy than a run of the mill star. You implied he should be judged equally with his peers, and it isn't fair, I disagree.
 

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Lebron being a pussy has absolutely nothing to do with his status among the greats, I fail to see where this argument comes from. I'm not lumping the two together, you are. Lebron is a pussy, and a top 5 player most likely. Why can't he be both? And I don't understand why people get angry he's getting blasted for being a pussy but someone like Tony Parker wouldn't. Of course top 5 players get more attention.

I apologize if calling a guy who can't hobble 6 feet in front of millions of viewers a pussy is being a "hater."
 
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Lebron being a pussy has absolutely nothing to do with his status among the greats, I fail to see where this argument comes from. I'm not lumping the two together, you are. Lebron is a pussy, and a top 5 player most likely. Why can't he be both? And I don't understand why people get angry he's getting blasted for being a pussy but someone like Tony Parker wouldn't. Of course top 5 players get more attention.

I apologize if calling a guy who can't hobble 6 feet in front of millions of viewers a pussy is being a "hater."

No you did lump the two together. You said he should be judged more harshly as a top 5 player for being a pussy. Either he's not a pussy, because Tony Parker or anyone else could have done the same thing and his greatness isn't related. Or he is one, but only because he's a top 5 player. I'm just using your reasoning here.

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Lebron being a pussy has absolutely nothing to do with his status among the greats, I fail to see where this argument comes from. I'm not lumping the two together, you are. Lebron is a pussy, and a top 5 player most likely. Why can't he be both? And I don't understand why people get angry he's getting blasted for being a pussy but someone like Tony Parker wouldn't. Of course top 5 players get more attention.

I apologize if calling a guy who can't hobble 6 feet in front of millions of viewers a pussy is being a "hater."

Oh, and I will say this too. I've seen this before. Last year in fact, from the people on here. If he hobbles over you still say he's a pussy and you probably use his walking over as evidence that he was just checking himself out of the game.
 

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Wouldn't be in my all time 5 regardless of how big of prima Donna pussy he is.

With that being said, I also don't take players that need a tampon.
 
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