Mike Floyd

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I was reading an article on bleacher report, I know its worthless, and one of the writers made the claim that ND may be hurt this coming season because it's lacking a player that can stretch the field? Another poster commented on the obvious #3. The writers response was "You actually consider MF a deep threat"?....I sure do. I am curious, do you guys consider him a viable deep threat? I don't see how you can't.
 

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I don't think he has blazing speed, but he has his ways to get behind the defense and take it to the house on any play. In my opinion.
 

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I don't think he has blazing speed, but he has his ways to get behind the defense and take it to the house on any play. In my opinion.

Pretty much.

Hes doesn't have great straight line speed, but he makes a big target for the QB. Hes tough to bring down due to his size and the defense HAS to account for him on every play.
 

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Yes, he is a deep threat, he has the size to get over most defenders, and isn't too shabby at breaking arm tackles. He's not going to burn by most BCS school corners, but he will catch over them. He's a threat at any depth IMO.
 

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"Deep threat" is too much of a cliche. Besides the Mike Wallace's and Steve Smith's of the world I don't know who you put in that category and who you don't.

If the question is "does Michael Floyd stretch the field?" then the answer is clearly yes because you can't cover him 1v1 and basically are forced to roll a safety to his side or get beat.
 

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Michael Floyd is nothing short of a BEAST of a wide reciever. He is a huge threat at any point of the field on any play. He overpowers most every DB on long throws, he goes up over you in the endzone, he runs by you on the slant.

Bleacher report has simply been out in the "bleachers" too long on a hot day.
 

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funny how I tend to shy away from any article written by bleacher report.
 

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Floyd is similar, in a way, to Samardzija. Shark didn't have incredible speed, but he found a way to be a target and find the open areas of the field. Floyd has some of those same talents for finding the gaps and being open. Then, on top of that, he can make some pretty amazing catches.
 

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Floyd can be a #1 receiver in the NFL, throw it up, he will go get it, you can't coach that. if he ran a 4.3, he would be gone by now.
 

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hey i do give them credit, every year they post an article titled. "Why Notre Dame will win the National Championhsip" of coarse, they also have several articles that say the same thing for Alabama, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Wisconsin, West Virginia, USC, Oregon, TCU, Boise State, Michigan, Auburn, South Carolina, Virginia Tech, Arizona State, North Texas, Kansas, Texas A&M, Arkansas, LSU, Ball State, Purdue, Air Force, Navy, Indiana, Toledo, UCLA, and of coarse the powerhouse of P.J.'s College of Cosmotology.
 

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In the NFL, Floyd will likely be a possession receiver; average speed, but excellent size, strength, and hands. In the red zone or on 3rd and long, he's your guy. I'd like to think he'll end up like Larry Fitzgerald.

The NFL analysis, however, doesn't apply to college ball. Average NFL speed is great Division I speed. Floyd is an elite receiver at this level any way you slice it, and yes, that includes as a "deep threat"; if he's going to run a Go or a Post route, most college secondaries will have to give him a 7-10 yard cushion off the LoS and roll a S over to top to put him in bracket coverage to stop it.
 

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I think Floyd is faster than what you guys give him credit for.

Is he a deep threat? Most certainly. I don't even need to argue my point. It's obvious he is when you watch him play.
 

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Look at 2 seasons ago in the opener, now before you say it was against "Nevada" it still shows the skills he has.... 3 TDs.. i believe one was a 65-70 Bubble where he ran past everyone. But i remember his 3rd TD clearly how he went up over the DB caught it and kept balance as the dude fell flat on his face. reguardless of speed his ball skills are amazing
 

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"Deep threat" is too much of a cliche. Besides the Mike Wallace's and Steve Smith's of the world I don't know who you put in that category and who you don't.

If the question is "does Michael Floyd stretch the field?" then the answer is clearly yes because you can't cover him 1v1 and basically are forced to roll a safety to his side or get beat.

Floyd fills the role that is needed...Floyd on the field allows BK to dictate that part of the game to the opposition. As Lax said, cover him or be beat; he fills the role of the 'deep threat' without necessarily being a deep threat, although he can catch the long ball. But I think his strengths are his size/speed/hands/ability to run after the catch. Clausen would hit him on a 7-10 yard hitch, and Floyd would then burn by the secondary.
 

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Floyd has Football speed. And yes he can stretch the field...and we are going to experience this in SePT!
 

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Not to mention the defense literally has to gameplan for him. Its a whole diff O/D with or without him on the field.
 

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cfbstats.com - 2010 National Player Leaders

Floyd was still high on the list for most long receiving plays despite playing in a completely new offense and playing a good portion of the season with a freshman at QB. I think Rees at QB prevented Floyd from breaking out deep more often because Kelly wanted to play up to the strengths of his QB and to also simplify things for a young, inexperienced QB. Rees is good at quick, accurate throws but let us be honest here, he isn't going to be desired by Al Davis anytime soon. As far as how Floyd's talents translate to the NFL, he'll be more of a big-bodied Larry Fitzgerald or Andre Johnson type than a DeSean Jackson.
 

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Can he stretch the field? Yes
Is he a burner? No
I also believe that Bleacher has some good articles, and some bad. Take the article for the author and not the website. We have/had an author for BR on this site and he has good articles. So I wont discredit the site for some articles I don't agree with.

Go Irish
 

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Can he stretch the field? Yes
Is he a burner? No
I also believe that Bleacher has some good articles, and some bad. Take the article for the author and not the website. We have/had an author for BR on this site and he has good articles. So I wont discredit the site for some articles I don't agree with.

Go Irish

This ^
 

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I also believe that Bleacher has some good articles, and some bad. Take the article for the author and not the website. We have/had an author for BR on this site and he has good articles. So I wont discredit the site for some articles I don't agree with.

Ding, ding, ding.
 

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Floyd is similar, in a way, to Samardzija. Shark didn't have incredible speed, but he found a way to be a target and find the open areas of the field. Floyd has some of those same talents for finding the gaps and being open. Then, on top of that, he can make some pretty amazing catches.

I see your point and I agree, but Floyd is way faster than Samardzija. Floyd is deceptive in his speed.
 

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Several folks have already alluded to Floyd's deceptive speed. There is something that he does at about the third "count" or so in his routes which blitzes the defender, and often yields huge separation [particularly on a sweeping middle route; screens included]. Floyd terrorizes DCs; bet on that.

Another form of deep threat that we have which does not involve track-&-field speed is Eifert. Just like Rudolph, defenses have to worry about trying to cover him all over the field, and thereby "wasting" defensive backs on our tight end [who he'll beat most of the time anyway].

I will also bet that Kelly will have some surprises out of Riddick deep, now that we can run the whole offense --- and there's a reason for Farley going over there as well. And hmmmm.... what about GAIII? Speed? yeh, I think so.

Stretch we got.
 

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This could just be my opinion but everytime he has the ball i feel like he could go for 6....hes a deep threat in my book but i think his best value is in the redzone..his size and leaping ability make those fade routes a sure 6 almost everytime.
 

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This could just be my opinion but everytime he has the ball i feel like he could go for 6....hes a deep threat in my book but i think his best value is in the redzone..his size and leaping ability make those fade routes a sure 6 almost everytime.


60% of the time, it works every time.
 

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"Deep threat" is too much of a cliche. Besides the Mike Wallace's and Steve Smith's of the world I don't know who you put in that category and who you don't.

If the question is "does Michael Floyd stretch the field?" then the answer is clearly yes because you can't cover him 1v1 and basically are forced to roll a safety to his side or get beat.

Agreed.

Floyd is similar, in a way, to Samardzija. Shark didn't have incredible speed, but he found a way to be a target and find the open areas of the field. Floyd has some of those same talents for finding the gaps and being open. Then, on top of that, he can make some pretty amazing catches.

To add, here are some attributes and who I think is better...

Size/Physique: Floyd
Speed: Draw
Hands: Shark
Route Running: Shark
Deep Threat: Floyd
Elusiveness: Shark
Overall: Floyd

It should be noted that Floyd hardly ever disappears in a ballgame. In 2006, for example, Samardzija was completely shut down by Michigan and LSU, and had average or mediocre games in a handful of others.

Floyd can be a #1 receiver in the NFL, throw it up, he will go get it, you can't coach that. if he ran a 4.3, he would be gone by now.

Could you imagine?

In the NFL, Floyd will likely be a possession receiver; average speed, but excellent size, strength, and hands. In the red zone or on 3rd and long, he's your guy. I'd like to think he'll end up like Larry Fitzgerald.

The NFL analysis, however, doesn't apply to college ball. Average NFL speed is great Division I speed. Floyd is an elite receiver at this level any way you slice it, and yes, that includes as a "deep threat"; if he's going to run a Go or a Post route, most college secondaries will have to give him a 7-10 yard cushion off the LoS and roll a S over to top to put him in bracket coverage to stop it.

Vincent Jackson is a better comparison.

Look at 2 seasons ago in the opener, now before you say it was against "Nevada" it still shows the skills he has.... 3 TDs.. i believe one was a 65-70 Bubble where he ran past everyone. But i remember his 3rd TD clearly how he went up over the DB caught it and kept balance as the dude fell flat on his face. reguardless of speed his ball skills are amazing

The Nevada defense was horribly out of position.

I see your point and I agree, but Floyd is way faster than Samardzija. Floyd is deceptive in his speed.

They're about the same, actually.
 

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Shark was the man back then, but he pales in comparison to Floyd, even in the hands department.
 
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