Mid Season Changes Coming??

[jonesman]

After watching 4 games, you can see that some changes in the line-up are likely or atleast should be.
1. PUNTER - Maust is plain and simply not getting it done. He almost cost us a TD runback at Purdue because his punt was so short the coverage overran the ball. Further, he is not helping on the field position. Time to see Turk.
2. LB - I am a big fan of Toryan because I believe he gives good effort, but his speed and lack of mobility are becoming a liability. You can see that defenses are now picking on him during passing downs. It is now time for Teo to step in to his annointed role. He has now had 4 weeks to learn and his upside is worth the mistakes he will make.
3. WR - With Floyd out for regular season, we need to take a hard look at Goody and Deion. I think Parris is a great team player and a veteran, but he does not put a drop of fear in a defense. Sorry, but he does not possess great speed, size or jumping ability. We need another THREAT! Not just a 3rd and 10 possession guy. I am hopeful that Deion or Goody with there speed or jumping ability can be one of those guys.
4. DE - Speed Rusher needed!! CW talked in the fall camp about the possibility of Filer and Fleming being on each end for passing downs. Sounded great to me. I have yet to see Filer get one snap in this concept. We sure as heck are not putting pressure on anyone currently, so why not give Filer a few game snaps?? The guy looks the physical part and runs well. Trust me, John Ryan is NOT ever going to strike fear in a OL. He is a smart guy, but his physical skills are just not there.

Overall, it is impressive that we are not talking major changes needed, but just some position tweeks.

 

[Senoj13]

Couldn't agree more on Maust. One could argue that if he punts the ball for 45 yards instead of 28 against Michigan, it may have been a different story.

 

[irishtrain]

Flier

Flier

What's the deal here guys-what am I missing. This guys gets my attention but never gets on field much? (Sorry about spelling, wrong key). Anyway- strange how he cant get on the field more, I thought this would be a big year for Steve Filer

 

[TDHeysus]

is Maust on a scholly?? you might have to do a Bobby Bowden, and offer a scholly in order to get a better quality punter in here....

 

[Riddickulous]

PUNTER - Agreed.

LB - Toryan Smith is not getting it done, plain and simple. There was a play Saturday night where Joey Elliott overshot a wide open tight end who was covered by, guess who, Toryan. Move Te'o into the starting Will spot and move Brian Smith over to the Mike spot.

WR - Parris is a loyal Notre Dame player and I'll always respect that about him. But his awful speed and inability to get open are not helping this team. Duval Kamara sucks, plain and simple. Put in Deion Walker, John Goodman, and Shaq.

DT/DE - Put in another tackle for experience and let Ethan Johnson play his natural position. EJ may be the best we have at that spot, but he isn't getting it done, either.

CB - Bench Walls.

 

[domerfor life]

PUNTER - Agreed.

LB - Toryan Smith is not getting it done, plain and simple. There was a play Saturday night where Joey Elliott overshot a wide open tight end who was covered by, guess who, Toryan. Move Te'o into the starting Will spot and move Brian Smith over to the Mike spot.

WR - Parris is a loyal Notre Dame player and I'll always respect that about him. But his awful speed and inability to get open are not helping this team. Duval Kamara sucks, plain and simple. Put in Deion Walker, John Goodman, and Shaq.

DT/DE - Put in another tackle for experience and let Ethan Johnson play his natural position. EJ may be the best we have at that spot, but he isn't getting it done, either.

CB - Bench Walls.

I agree concerning the punter and Toryan. The punter is just horrible and Toryan gets burned over the middle too much.

 

[The Polish Irishman]

Apparently Filer was having trouble at LB with plays. He is learning to play DE. He has good size and speed to play there.

On a couple of plays against Purdue, Ryan and Neal were the DEs and KLM & Johnson were at DT.

 

[Junkhead]

Agree that Johnson needs to be back at DE.

 

[jason_h537]

Maust is killing us on Punts but hopefully we wont have to use him much

Toryan is becoming a liability now. Te'o or even A Mac have better ability at MLB

Parris and Kamara will be in the game during crunch time because of Goodamn and Shaqs plays late in the game on 3rd downs. We need to get these guys in early

The d lien is just going to be growing pains all year. You can put a band aid on it but experience is the only cure

 

[tgolden]

is Maust on a scholly?? you might have to do a Bobby Bowden, and offer a scholly in order to get a better quality punter in here....

We already have a punter on scholarship, his name is Ben Turk. Maust is also on scholarship now, although he was originally a walkon. I'm not sure what his problem is, in warm ups he is kicking just fine.

 

[WabashFalcon]

is Maust on a scholly?? you might have to do a Bobby Bowden, and offer a scholly in order to get a better quality punter in here....

Uhh... the Froshman is a scholarship athlete... now Turk needs to kick like a fucking wildman.

 

[Mattmags]

Why is everyone picking on Parris. I understand he is not as highly rated as a couple of the other guys when it comes to speed and quickness, but his play is often overlooked. Does anybody give him credit for keeping the game winning drive alive last week against purdue on a 3rd and long? Would you rather have Shaq in there during critical situations where he might come off a route early or late? I feel more comfortable at times with Parris on the field.

 

[BGIF]

Why is everyone picking on Parris. I understand he is not as highly rated as a couple of the other guys when it comes to speed and quickness, but his play is often overlooked. Does anybody give him credit for keeping the game winning drive alive last week against purdue on a 3rd and long? Would you rather have Shaq in there during critical situations where he might come off a route early or late? I feel more comfortable at times with Parris on the field.

Stop Matt, your making sense. So Parris, who everybody knows runs slower than Weis, got open with the game on the line beyond the First Down marker unlike Shaq at Michigan, and he caught the key First Down pass unlike Tate at Michigan or Kamara how many times against anybody.

Let's be serious Parris is embarrassing he doesn't have star pedigree and he can't stretch the field. He only gets open and catches the ball where he's supposed to.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Matt, on another thread I got on a couple of guys who ripped Parris, saying 'he still sucks' even after he caught that ball. Nice fans huh? Dude makes a great play to help save our season, hasn't sropped a ball all year, works hard, keeps his mouth shut, and we rip one of our own who makes a great play. Unbelievable...

 

[BCSorBust]

I agree with the last two comments about Parris, although he did drop a wide open ball against UM which probably would have been a huge gain. Other than that though he's been solid and has shown he doesn't deserved to be benched for an unknown. Bench Kamara and rotate the newbies in his spot when we go three wide (or four wide with Rudolph as the 4th). I think the biggest cure for the wide receiver woes is using Rudy more. The kid is just a stud. I still think he has room to grow blocking wise but it's scary to think he'll be getting better at receiving too because he is a monster already. Unless he's double covered he's pretty much open every play if you ask me.

 

[BeatSC]

I say trun Kamara loose inthe food hall and let him gain 25 pounds and be a decent tight end next year. I don't think CW is trying to use Parris to stretch the field. We need to see a few more games with a few more passes thrown to Shq, Deion and Parris and see how it washes out. I would like to see alot more slants over the middle. they sure seem to work well on us against everyone! These are quick hits and JC is very accurate so let him do it.

 

[ND_HAS_RISEN]

Spread out the offense and use Rudolph as a #3. Dude is a downright beast, and other than Taylor Mays there isnt a safety/LB that will touch him. He might be a bit slow and not stretch the field as much, but look at what he has provide on some of the dump off passes from JC.... Let the dude drag a 5-10 yard route and watch it turn into 30-40+ yards!!!

 

[Mattmags]

Let's be serious Parris is embarrassing he doesn't have star pedigree and he can't stretch the field. He only gets open and catches the ball where he's supposed to.

I'm happy to see that Parris will be back for BC. (I just had to BGIF)

 

[JeremyND07]

I'm happy to see that Parris will be back for BC. (I just had to BGIF)

I have to agree with BGIF...Paris is only getting catches because of Tate and Rudolph! I have never seen a WR on the ground so quickly after catches...we need another big play threat to take pressure off Tate and Rudolph period! Parris is not that guy!

 

[Big23Head]

As long as he keeps catching those passes and getting first downs, its all good by me. If he stays consistent it will take some pressure off the other two.

 

[GDomer09]

Are you going to worry about a guy getting a first down more or a guy getting a touchdown. Parris catches the ball then drops to the ground immediatly (besides the fake punt) no coach is going to put more than one guy on him. Leaving plenty to guard Tate and Rudolph, Goody looked fast as hell coming out of that wildcat.

 

[Big23Head]

We don't need a homerun everytime. First downs sound good to me. I would really like to see us start to get inside the ten and pound the ball in every once in a while. Has Parris really had an opportunity to score in the red zone? I am trying to remember if I have even seen him in, its seems like Kamara goes in then for his size.

I expect to see more of Goody too, run once or twice then a bomb later in the game. He can throw for sure.

 

[GDomer09]

We don't need a homerun everytime. First downs sound good to me. I would really like to see us start to get inside the ten and pound the ball in every once in a while. Has Parris really had an opportunity to score in the red zone? I am trying to remember if I have even seen him in, its seems like Kamara goes in then for his size.

I expect to see more of Goody too, run once or twice then a bomb later in the game. He can throw for sure.

Well, I think we all feel the same about Kamara. I just find it strange that he falls so quickly. I agree with you 100% on the running game. We never try more than once to punch it in and alot of times we don't even try once. I miss Double A. He was money at the beginning of the year.

 

[devolg]

Parris reminds me more of a tight end but regardless of his speed & ability, he's tough & he plays smart. He always comes back to the ball, gets open & gives Jimmy the outs he needs when he desperately needs one.

Lets face it Jimmy would have thrown more balls away in the 2nd half last week had it not been for Parris & lets not forget the huge catch where he got his head ripped off & his knee tweaked to hell & still hung on to the ball. Can't really believe I'm hearing discontent over his play.

 

[phork]

I'd rather have Parris catch it and fall, than Kamara not catch it at all. First downs move the chains and kill the clock and sustain long drives.

 

[GDomer09]

I'd rather have Parris catch it and fall, than Kamara not catch it at all. First downs move the chains and kill the clock and sustain long drives.

Kamara's not even an option any more in my opinion. I'd rather see Goodman or Shaq in there. Parris has moved the chains a couple of times, but I don't feel hes getting much attention from our competitors D, hence Tate/Rudolph double coverage.

 

[GO IRISH!!!]

I'd rather have Parris catch it and fall, than Kamara not catch it at all. First downs move the chains and kill the clock and sustain long drives.

Gotta agree. I love a player that has 9 catches and only 90 yards or so. Translates in to quite a few first downs. Move the chains and sustain the drive. That was one thing I always loved about Matt Shelton. He wouldn't catch a pass for a long, long time and then he would come up with a huge catch for a critical first down. Guys like Parris keep their focus and are ready whenever tehy are called on. Kamara just seems to be sleep walking and half-assing his routes sometimes.

 

[BGIF]

I'm happy to see that Parris will be back for BC. (I just had to BGIF)

The original quote makes more sense in context.

Originally posted by Mattmags:

Why is everyone picking on Parris. I understand he is not as highly rated as a couple of the other guys when it comes to speed and quickness, but his play is often overlooked. Does anybody give him credit for keeping the game winning drive alive last week against purdue on a 3rd and long? Would you rather have Shaq in there during critical situations where he might come off a route early or late? I feel more comfortable at times with Parris on the field.

Response by BGIF:

Stop Matt, your making sense. So Parris, who everybody knows runs slower than Weis, got open with the game on the line beyond the First Down marker unlike Shaq at Michigan, and he caught the key First Down pass unlike Tate at Michigan or Kamara how many times against anybody.

Let's be serious Parris is embarrassing he doesn't have star pedigree and he can't stretch the field. He only gets open and catches the ball where he's supposed to.

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[BGIF]

I have to agree with BGIF...Paris is only getting catches because of Tate and Rudolph! I have never seen a WR on the ground so quickly after catches...we need another big play threat to take pressure off Tate and Rudolph period! Parris is not that guy!

I don't think you really mean to agree with me. Mattmags posted one facetious line out of an exchange he and I had where I was chiding people for their complaints about Parris (His last name has is spelled with 2 "r").

Here's the original quote in context:

http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/notre-dame-football/46844-mid-season-changes-coming.html#post318082

 

[Mattmags]

BGIF, thanks for the civil reply.

I just know that Parris gets little to no respect as a threat PERIOD. I am not saying he is a stud either, but having him on the field at times make me feel more comfortable since he has proven to be reliable. I agree with what GO IRISH!! said about feeling good having a guy that moves the chains and gets first downs. Not everyone has the playmaking ability of the Tates and Floyds, but I do like him as our third option. Kamara has the ability to be a great receiver but has just not shown me enough to warrant playing time over Parris. my two cents!