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drayer54

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“Corporate” media is “liberal” is an oxymoron.
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You control the tv during the day from the view and the morning shows.

The evening shows where they deceptively edited 60 minutes for Harris, Norah O Donnel looked like she was trying out for msnbc, and David Muir gave zero attempts at fair.

The late night shows are even pathetically left-




SNL even offered only candidate time right before the election.

The lefts solution is to try and regulate that bit of media they don’t control, but the good thing about this election is that the people showed they are smart enough to see through the bullshit.
 

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You control the tv during the day from the view and the morning shows.

The evening shows where they deceptively edited 60 minutes for Harris, Norah O Donnel looked like she was trying out for msnbc, and David Muir gave zero attempts at fair.

The late night shows are even pathetically left-




SNL even offered only candidate time right before the election.

The lefts solution is to try and regulate that bit of media they don’t control, but the good thing about this election is that the people showed they are smart enough to see through the bullshit.

So, a meme from the right wing group Media Research Center is the basis of your argument?

Here’s something to consider, right leaning Sinclair Media is the largest television station operator in the US. That runs counter to the idea you’re championing.
 
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So, a meme from the right wing group Media Research Center is the basis of your argument?

Here’s something to consider, right leaning Sinclair Media is the largest television station operator in the US. That runs counter to the idea you’re championing.
No- the incredible slant of the news media is the basis of my argument. The fake journos went full steam ahead for her. Politico was shameless too.

Also, that was an infographic.

This is a meme.
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No- the incredible slant of the news media is the basis of my argument. The fake journos went full steam ahead for her. Politico was shameless too.

Also, that was an infographic.

This is a meme.
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I see.

If you said most major media was biased towards “liberal” social issues (gay rights, abortion, etc…) I would agree.

Now, if you said it was biased towards “liberal” economic issues (pro union, anti corporate control, higher taxes on billionaires, ect…) I would find that to be a ridiculous statement.

Unfortunately nobody seems to make this distinction when talking about media bias.
 
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drayer54

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I see.

If you said most major media was biased towards “liberal” social issues (gay rights, abortion, etc…) I would agree.

Now, if you said it was biased towards “liberal” economic issues (pro union, anti corporate control, higher taxes on billionaires, ect…) I would find that to be a ridiculous statement.

Unfortunately nobody seems to make this distinction when talking about media bias.
If you scroll back- you’ll see it’s a distortion in facts, not nuanced positions. Norah here doesn’t present the facts from both sides- it’s screaming bias.


Recall politico using specific words to avoid supporting Trumps narrative. It’s not issues. It’s blatant support.
 

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I just hope liberal MSM can have the same sort of non-partisan reporting that other very esteemed MSM brands have.

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SNL even offered only candidate time right before the election.

I can't remember if I posted it or not, but SNL earlier this year vowed not to bring any candidates on this election because I guess during 2016 they got hit with FCC fines for only bringing Hillary on with no equal time...and then they brought Kamala on just days before the election.
 

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I just hope liberal MSM can have the same sort of non-partisan reporting that other very esteemed MSM brands have.

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The number of blondes in that pick is amazing when you considered there are way more brunettes walking around.
 

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Rich IMO is someone who can spend ~50K in cash for a luxury good (car).

It's all about interest rates. Anything above ~5% you have to factor in term, and anything over 7% you should pay as much down as possible.

Rich people (on average) do not pay for cars in all cash.
That's probably about where I'd put it too I think.

And yes, I follow that they generally do not. You don't usually get rich by making suboptimal decisions unless you stumbled into wealth via athleticism, or being a doctor/lawyer (surprisingly dumb people! Myself included).
 

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That's probably about where I'd put it too I think.

And yes, I follow that they generally do not. You don't usually get rich by making suboptimal decisions unless you stumbled into wealth via athleticism, or being a cpa/lawyer (surprisingly dumb people! Myself included).
FIFY lmao

But yeah, I think it's a generational thing too since people our age (early 30's) have spent our entire adult life in low interest rates. Whereas the older gen had those crazy mortgage rates of the 80s so they've been the toughest people to convince to increase their leverage. Also some gen x who had some exposure in 2008.
 

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Study from Stanford seems to run counter the “liberal” media bias narrative.

Media Consolidation Means Less Local News, More Right Wing Slant​



That seems to be tied to local news though, and the article mentions there's two possible schools of thought here: either the new owners are forcing their opinions via the change in speech patterns, or they're catering to their audience's current political lean. I think we have to keep in mind that most individual counties in the country are red, but they're also not nearly as densely populated as the blue cities. Depending on where the news stations are based, that could determine why these local stations have altered their wording of certain topics like illegal aliens as oppose to migrants.
 

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That seems to be tied to local news though, and the article mentions there's two possible schools of thought here: either the new owners are forcing their opinions via the change in speech patterns, or they're catering to their audience's current political lean. I think we have to keep in mind that most individual counties in the country are red, but they're also not nearly as densely populated as the blue cities. Depending on where the news stations are based, that could determine why these local stations have altered their wording of certain topics like illegal aliens as oppose to migrants.
That’s a misrepresentation of what was presented.

First, the shift at these stations was from covering mostly local news to covering more national news from a right leaning perspective.

“What we show is that ownership preferences have an influence on content.”

Second, there was no clear business reason for this shift to a right leaning perspective and or coverage of more national news.

“Martin says there isn’t a clear business explanation for the rightward political shift. In fact, the new Sinclair stations actually lost an average of 600 viewers in the months after they were acquired. Nationwide, Sinclair local news shows attracted an average of 7,000 fewer households than their rivals in the same markets.”

Another interesting factoid from the article

“Local TV news shows collectively attract 25 million nightly viewers, far more than national cable programs such as Fox News and MSNBC.”
 
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That’s a misrepresentation of what was presented.

First, the shift at these stations was from covering mostly local news to covering more national news from a right leaning perspective.

“What we show is that ownership preferences have an influence on content.”

Second, there was no clear business reason for this.

“Martin says there isn’t a clear business explanation for the rightward political shift. In fact, the new Sinclair stations actually lost an average of 600 viewers in the months after they were acquired. Nationwide, Sinclair local news shows attracted an average of 7,000 fewer households than their rivals in the same markets.”
How was it a misrepresentation? If these stations were mostly covering local news before, were they not local stations? It's not like they purchased MSNBC.

"Martin says there isn't a clear business explanation for the rightward political shift."
So I then pointed out they said this in the article:
“One possible explanation for the media slant is that stations are just catering to what audiences want,” says Martin. “The alternative explanation is that owners are imposing their views..”
They're not 100% certain which it could be. How was that a misrepresentation? I just brought up what was already mentioned.

The only opinion I added was that most counties in the country are red and maybe that could be influencing their decision to push more conservative speak in these local stations. It's just a theory, and it was separate from the article.

My point was when people talk about the liberal lean in the media it's based more around the national networks and publications that are well known: NBC, ABC, CBS, WaPo, NYT, etc.
 

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Libs will have to get over their control of media. I promise it'll be fine.
This is what's funny about it. They're up in arms and just OUTRAGED I tell ya that they won't control virtually all the media and the narrative anymore. It's a real existential threat to democracy.
 

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Libs will have to get over their control of media. I promise it'll be fine.
They had almost total control over the media, but people didn't want it. So podcasts and right-leaning cable networks popped up. We don't want to be lied to and hear how joyous Kamala is and how dreadful Trump is. Think how different this election would have been had Twitter still been under state control.
 

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I'll bet Jen hasn't stepped away from posting on Social Media.
 
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