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LOL Alex Jones banned from Twitter.

Just saw that:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Twitter is permanently banning conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and Infowars for abusive behavior.</p>— The Associated Press (@AP) <a href="https://twitter.com/AP/status/1037804224162226176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 6, 2018</a></blockquote>
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And some here wonder why we roll our eyes when they claim there's no media bias and that the media does a great job being honest and informing the public factually.

I believe there is general agreement here that Fox News is biased and unapologetic in slanting their "facts".

Fox News spun NY Times report about FBI’s attempts to flip a Russian oligarch involved in organized crime into proof of an anti-Trump “witch hunt”

A couple of articles from Media Matters for consideration.

Study: AP quoted pro-Kavanaugh voices 50 percent more in its Supreme Court coverage
Associated Press quoted 47 percent more Republicans than Democrats and 53 percent more pro-Kavanaugh than anti-Kavanaugh voices

The apathy in the media regarding Brett Kavanaugh is a national scandal

and from Pew Research:
Distinguishing Between Factual and Opinion Statements in the News
The politically aware, digitally savvy and those more trusting of the news media fare better; Republicans and Democrats both influenced by political appeal of statements

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I believe there is general agreement here that Fox News is biased and unapologetic in slanting their "facts".

And of the 20 biggest news outlets in the US, Fox is the only one that leans Right. The other 19 lean hard Left... and those of us on the Right will at least admit Fox is biased and slanted, unlike those on the Left who deny that the major networks, CNN, WAPO, NYT, etc. are. I don't want ANY of them leaning either way. I'd like to just have an unbiased, honest, accurate news media that keeps us informed instead of slanting every story or choosing what to cover based on their political agenda.
 

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And of the 20 biggest news outlets in the US, Fox is the only one that leans Right. The other 19 lean hard Left... and those of us on the Right will at least admit Fox is biased and slanted, unlike those on the Left who deny that the major networks, CNN, WAPO, NYT, etc. are. I don't want ANY of them leaning either way. I'd like to just have an unbiased, honest, accurate news media that keeps us informed instead of slanting every story or choosing what to cover based on their political agenda.

Not sure what you mean by "lean hard left". Lean left, lean right used to refer to those in the middle. Certainly "lean left" is used much more than "lean right" - or almost exclusively at least by some posters on IE.

Personally, I rely on multiple sources for a variety of views and insight and feel those that rely primarily on one are more likely to see bias and make generalizations. I think it's more important to see if readers can distinguish between fact and opinion, which is why I posted the Pew article link.

Google "Trump deserves credit" (Korea, economy or for Noble Prize) and see what returns you get, many of which are the MSM that you feel are "lean hard left". But "deserves" implies opinion. Some readers may also feel that Trump is being deprived of something rightfully his, reinforcing a bias, which is politically advantageous, especially if they do not read the variety of media that have the same headlines.

Why attacks on free speech and the free press are so dangerous (Anchorage Daily News)
 
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The media bullying of Christine Blasey Ford (Columbia Journalism Review)

CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD’S testimony on her alleged sexual assault by Brett Kavanaugh, a nominee to the Supreme Court, which she is giving now before the Senate Judiciary Committee, is impressive and upsetting. In her opening statement this morning, she had an important message for reporters: the media had intimidated her into coming forward.

“I’m terrified,” Ford said at the start. After recounting the details of her assault, Ford talked about her decision to send a letter to Dianne Feinstein—a senator from California, where Ford lives, and the ranking Democrat on the committee—and, anonymously, to The Washington Post. Ford’s intention was to notify the committee of her experience, in the hope, she said, that it would inform their decision. She aimed to be “helpful.” Much of what happened next was the product of the media.

“Reporters appeared at my home and at my job demanding information about this letter, including in the presence of my graduate students,” Ford said. “They called my boss and coworkers and left me many messages, making it clear that my name would inevitably be released to the media.” It was unclear how journalists had identified her. According to the Washington Post story that outed Ford, on September 16, one of them was from BuzzFeed. “I didn’t want to go the media route,” Ford said in the afternoon—in response to a question demanding why she didn’t give her story to The New York Times—but the mounting pressure forced her hand.

On Twitter, Irin Carmon, a writer for New York magazine, pointed out that this is entirely ordinary practice in journalism. Indeed, reporters commonly infringe on the privacy of people who have experienced trauma. How many young journalists, having just arrived in their newsrooms, are told that knocking on the doors of shooting victims’ families and staking out the homes of people in crisis, however uncomfortable, is an essential part the job—even a moment of professional passage? We are taught to push past the inevitable discomfort, to ignore the triggering of our internal barometers of empathy, and then to wear that feat as badge of honor. This, we are told, is part of what makes journalism not merely a job but a calling.

Reporters tracking down Christine Blasey Ford at work and home were doing their job in an ordinary way, and yet when it comes to a sexual assault survivor, it's hard not to question whether ordinary is acceptable.

In the case of Ford, that approach contributed significantly to a campaign that pushed a victim of sexual assault to come forward in the most high stakes and public way possible. The impact of normal reporting tactics, twisted by those who wished to discredit her, became too much for Ford to bear. During the hearing, she said that the past two months have been the worst period of her life since she suffered the assault itself. After her name was revealed in the press, Ford found herself at the receiving end of harassment and death threats that came by email and phone. She was called vulgar names. Strangers posted her personal information on the internet. Just two days ago, Ford said, her work email was hacked, and messages were erroneously sent on her behalf recanting her description of assault. Her family—Ford is a mother of two boys—was forced to leave their home in the company of security guards.

The media is complicit in that response. Today, Ford described the replay of trauma she experienced as she watched her life picked apart on television news programs. As pundits speculated about her motives, they did harm not only to her, but, in their willful ignorance of research that tells why assaulted women do not speak up, an entire population. In particularly bad taste was an avalanche of coverage from right-wing outlets questioning her story before the testimony: everything from “A Spectral Witness Materializes” from The Wall Street Journal to a Fox News piece that called Ford’s story an “ambush” on Kavanaugh. “While young women are standing up and saying, ‘No more,’ our institutions have not progressed on how they treat women when they come forward,” Feinstein said in her opening remarks. “In essence, they are put on trial and forced to defend themselves, and often re-victimized in the process.”

Despite the committee’s insistence that Thursday’s hearing is merely a job interview for Kavanaugh, not a trial, it certainly feels like one: Rachel Mitchell, a prosecutor from Arizona, who was introduced by Senator Charles Grassley, the chairman of the committee, as an award-winning advocate of sex crime victims, was brought in to address both Ford and Kavanaugh. Mitchell’s handling of the senators’ questions—pursuing answers in such extreme detail as to be designed to trip up the respondent—feels distinctly legal. Though she has been repeatedly interrupted—Grassley has been a stickler for time limits—she has managed to deploy classic deposition-style strategies.

This is the same non-trial trial used by some in the media, formal or not. Early Thursday, for instance, the Times deleted a tweet polling its readers about how they perceived Ford, asking, “Do you find her testimony credible?”

Journalists spend much of our professional lives wading through the justifications for our subjects’ behavior and asking when has it crossed an ethical line. This hearing shows the urgent need for us to examine our own.

For journalists, now central characters in the American political drama, those justifications often arise out of a public misunderstanding—or rejection—of our professional practices. But journalists are citizens, too. We ought to be able to explain the how and why of our work—not with a knee jerk defiant response about necessary evils, but with a measure of human decency that we’d apply in any other facet of our lives.

Ford, though visibly shaken and struggling to recount the details of a violent assault, powered through her opening statement, poised despite her duress. (The request for caffeine as she wrapped her statement, eliciting a nervous chuckle in the chambers, suggested that Ford felt responsible for softening the mood.) And of this, can we be surprised? Women are constantly made to perform, especially when detailing the facts of their trauma; the trials of being a woman make for excellent media training.
 
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I could put this in several threads, but going to stick it here...

Just watched CNN jump all over Kanye and Jim Brown's meeting with Trump...

-They painted Kanye as a total mental case.
-They said Kanye was not representative enough of African Americans
-They criticized Trump for exploiting the entertainment industry (hello CNN, 99% of Hollywood and Music are sucking off Dems)
-They in not so many words criticized Trump for exploiting an African American with mental problems
-Inferred Kanye is no expert on policy and does not deserve to be in the oval office.
-Pretty much ignores Brown's presence, or his long history of activism and his unselfish work with gang survivors.

The media was invited to more or less the pre-game photo op... Kanye, Brown, and Trump are sitting down to talk about all kinds of race related issues including prison and sentencing reform, etc. over lunch, without the press... but CNN has already dismissed it because of the pre-game photo op...

No fan of Kanye, but find it hilarious how the lib media embraces any entertainment star (regardless of how crazy they are) so long as they sing the lefty tune... and how they absolutely try to destroy anyone not in sync with their group think.
 

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I've always felt the media pushed too hard at times. Having said that, I wonder how smart Ford really is? She has advanced degrees and teaches in college, but did she not give thought to the possible repercussions of her actions before she sent the letter to Feinstein? Feinstein used her as much as the media did. You know Feinstein is the one who made the media aware. She let them stir up the hornet's nest. How better to stop the Kavanaugh than with something like this accusation?
 

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I've always felt the media pushed too hard at times. Having said that, I wonder how smart Ford really is? She has advanced degrees and teaches in college, but did she not give thought to the possible repercussions of her actions before she sent the letter to Feinstein? Feinstein used her as much as the media did. You know Feinstein is the one who made the media aware. She let them stir up the hornet's nest. How better to stop the Kavanaugh than with something like this accusation?

I honestly didn't think that article was supposed to be taken seriously... parts of it read like an onion piece...
 

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I honestly didn't think that article was supposed to be taken seriously... parts of it read like an onion piece...

Hmmmm....
So maybe Legacy writes for the Onion.... all his postings are starting to make sense now.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">60 Minutes interrupts President Trump 64 times in 26 minutes.<br>60 Minutes interrupted President Obama 4 times in 46 minutes.<br>Thank you, CBS, for so clearly illustrating your profound bias.</p>— Cari Kelemen &#55356;&#56826;&#55356;&#56824; (@KelemenCari) <a href="https://twitter.com/KelemenCari/status/1051811748913840128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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Anyone see the reactions about the new movie "Gosnell: The Trial of America's Biggest Serial Killer". Low budget film that made into the top 10, about and abortionist who killed live born babies, and a few women....

Saw an interview with a journalist that covered the initial trial. Amazing how there was almost zero mainstream media coverage in 2011, and that you can't find a lot of MSM reviews on the film currently.
 

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Anyone see the reactions about the new movie "Gosnell: The Trial of America's Biggest Serial Killer". Low budget film that made into the top 10, about and abortionist who killed live born babies, and a few women....

Saw an interview with a journalist that covered the initial trial. Amazing how there was almost zero mainstream media coverage in 2011, and that you can't find a lot of MSM reviews on the film currently.

Not surprised. Meanwhile, they will hype the (I assume Anti-) Dick Cheney movie and it will likely flop if it;s just an excuse for Hollywood to bash conservatives.
 

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Not surprised. Meanwhile, they will hype the (I assume Anti-) Dick Cheney movie and it will likely flop if it;s just an excuse for Hollywood to bash conservatives.

Not shocked either. The fact it got an 9.4 rating on IMDB and made the top 10 box office given it's budget is enough for it to get a look from a lot of folks. I'm sure it plays to the pro-life and conservative base, but the box office success is pretty refreshing given Hollywood's typical narrative.
 

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"After six years of waving off questions from Capitol Hill reporters from routine “hallway interviews,” Warren has recently opened up to the D.C. press corps for more spontaneous question-and-answer sessions."

Talk about transparency. Doesn't she realize that people see she is only doing this to promote herself?
 

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How far can a writer reach before the editor puts a "stupid" stamp on the article. Oh wait,,, this guy is senior editor.. This huge reach is just another reason why people think true journalism is dead.

It's Time magazine...

You have seen their DJT covers the last couple of years, right? Not exactly the golden halo treatment the previous president received.
 

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"After six years of waving off questions from Capitol Hill reporters from routine “hallway interviews,” Warren has recently opened up to the D.C. press corps for more spontaneous question-and-answer sessions."

Talk about transparency. Doesn't she realize that people see she is only doing this to promote herself?

2020!

It's Time magazine...

You have seen their DJT covers the last couple of years, right? Not exactly the golden halo treatment the previous president received.

I know, but some things are just beyond stupid. And most at least try to spin it in a believable (if only to the left) way.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An article titled "the hack gap" postulating that the Democratic Party suffers from the media landscape disproportionate sympathy toward conservative/Republican narratives. <a href="https://t.co/2IC0GPFyez">https://t.co/2IC0GPFyez</a></p>— Noah Rothman (@NoahCRothman) <a href="https://twitter.com/NoahCRothman/status/1054720995305627648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Voxsplaining...
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An article titled "the hack gap" postulating that the Democratic Party suffers from the media landscape disproportionate sympathy toward conservative/Republican narratives. <a href="https://t.co/2IC0GPFyez">https://t.co/2IC0GPFyez</a></p>— Noah Rothman (@NoahCRothman) <a href="https://twitter.com/NoahCRothman/status/1054720995305627648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Voxsplaining...

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this is hilarious.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Jobs Report just came out and something weird is going on over at CNN. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhenPigsFly?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WhenPigsFly</a> CNN praises Trump! <a href="https://t.co/ZfJ14OiX02">pic.twitter.com/ZfJ14OiX02</a></p>— Carpe Donktum&#55357;&#56633; (@Carpedonktum) <a href="https://twitter.com/Carpedonktum/status/1058528086680051712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Even lib Facebook has a problem with Soros....

Facebook hired PR firm to blame George Soros for rise of groups challenging tech giant
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/facebo...-rise-of-groups-challenging-tech-giant-report

Earlier today I read the entire NYT article and found it ironic the the company (Facbook) was given the task of policing itself and purging stories of "fake news" while being guilty of distributing "fake news" for its own benefit. Further the NYT's article reported that Chuck Schumer was putting pressure on fellow Dems to back off criticizing Facebook and not surprisingly he recieved $38,900 from Faceboook and his daughter is employed by the company.

Democratic Senate leader Chuck Schumer reportedly lobbied Senator Mark Warner (D-VA) to stop criticizing Facebook and focus on tackling the issue of“right-wing disinformation,” across the internet. It should be noted that Schumer’s daughter Alison, works for Facebook as a product marketing manager. Open Secrets also notes that Schumer received $38,900 from the company in 2016.
 

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Everybody's favorite boogeyman.

Soros is really good at contributing to a group, who contributes to a group, who contributes to a group, who contributes to a group.

He may not be the boogeyman he's made out to be, but he isn't clean. And we don't need individuals like him (dem or repub) having so much impact on politics. where there is smoke, there is typically fire, and he's had a plethora of smoke globally for a very long time.

Earlier today I read the entire NYT article and found it ironic the the company (Facbook) was given the task of policing itself and purging stories of "fake news" while being guilty of distributing "fake news" for its own benefit. Further the NYT's article reported that Chuck Schumer was putting pressure on fellow Dems to back off criticizing Facebook and not surprisingly he recieved $38,900 from Faceboook and his daughter is employed by the company.

Schumer looks really bad and has not commented. I find it hilarious that a lib company hired a conservative group to improve optics. Was Fusion GPS not available lol.
 

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