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Crazy stuff

 

[NorthDakota]

Saying this should be a moment of celebration for liberals read to me like you were criticizing the way people on the left were reacting to the people being fired for their posts.

I'm sure there are plenty of people reacting in a manner worthy of criticism but that was not my intent.

 

[sfk324]

I'm always amazed at how many people don't understand that or have a clue what the First Amendment protects and doesn't protect, and why.

This is a weird d position to take for someone who was adamantly opposed to cancel culture, which was just a zeitgeist term for holding people accountable for having politically incorrect or otherwise objectionable opinions. That the PC police (and that's exactly what this is, particularly given that the issue is one of politics) are on your side doesn't make the cancellation any more valid or invalid.

If you'd like to compare George Floyd and Charlie Kirk by all means... you have the floor.

If every life has equal value in the eyes of God (spoiler alert: they do), then their deaths are equal in tragedy. Hope this helps.

 

[yankeehater]

Case number 5 million of conservatives suddenly sounding like liberals circa 2014. This is the exact argument liberals made when conservatives were up in arms about cancel culture.

If a fellow employee is cheering on death of someone due to their beliefs (either liberal or conservative), does that not make working with said person become a hostile work environment for those with the beliefs they oppose.

I just went through corporate training on these matters, and regardless if actions happen on company time or property if deemed hostile is a fireable offence and not acted on accordingly can result in punishment for those who ignored it.

 

[Blazers46]

If you'd like to compare George Floyd and Charlie Kirk by all means... you have the floor.

A guy made famous due to a fentanyl overdose verse a famous guy that got assassinated for his religious beliefs. Pretty much sums it up.

 

[GATTACA!]

A guy made famous due to a fentanyl overdose verse a famous guy that got assassinated for his religious beliefs. Pretty much sums it up.

 

[NorthDakota]

If every life has equal value in the eyes of God (spoiler alert: they do), then their deaths are equal in tragedy. Hope this helps.

Equal value doesnt mean equal tragedy as far as I'm aware.

 

[Blazers46]

This is a weird d position to take for someone who was adamantly opposed to cancel culture, which was just a zeitgeist term for holding people accountable for having politically incorrect or otherwise objectionable opinions. That the PC police (and that's exactly what this is, particularly given that the issue is one of politics) are on your side doesn't make the cancellation any more valid or invalid.

You can be a proponent of free speech and still criticize cancel culture. If someone told you, your mom is an ugly whore, are you just going to smile and appreciate their free speech? Your free speech does not Trump my opinion of your free speech.

If every life has equal value in the eyes of God (spoiler alert: they do), then their deaths are equal in tragedy. Hope this helps.

Sure, but a rational person would summarize that one is in hell one is in heaven. You can take your best shot at which is where.

 

[Blazers46]

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How dare you criticize my free speech.

 

[sfk324]

Equal value doesnt mean equal tragedy as far as I'm aware.

Depending on how you want to view the Prodigal Son, Floyd's could be considered more tragic. Just because you find someone's life objectionable doesn't make their death less tragic.

 

[sfk324]

You can be a proponent of free speech and still criticize cancel culture. If someone told you, your mom is an ugly whore, are you just going to smile and appreciate their free speech? Your free speech does not Trump my opinion of your free speech.

Sure, but a rational person would summarize that one is in hell one is in heaven. You can take your best shot at which is where.

Ah, another "I know who is in hell and who is in heaven" person. Fantastic. Didn't realize you were Jesus.

 

[GATTACA!]

You can be a proponent of free speech and still criticize cancel culture. If someone told you, your mom is an ugly whore, are you just going to smile and appreciate their free speech? Your free speech does not Trump my opinion of your free speech.

Sure, but a rational person would summarize that one is in hell one is in heaven. You can take your best shot at which is where.

Are people being canceled for defending their whore mother’s honor?

 

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[NorthDakota]

Depending on how you want to view the Prodigal Son, Floyd's could be considered more tragic. Just because you find someone's life objectionable doesn't make their death less tragic.

Again, I don't view it that way at all.

My uncle got executed at work. Left behind two toddlers and a wife. Sound a bit familiar? That's tragic.

The man who did it died in a firefight with police some time later that day. Thats not tragic, or certainly not on an equal level.

Both children of God and all that, but not all deaths are of equal tragedy.

 

[NorthDakota]

Are people being canceled for defending their whore mother’s honor?

We have entered biblical times. At least this sounds like something one might find in the bible

 

[TorontoGold]

Are people being canceled for defending their whore mother’s honor?

No, you're supposed to take these people very seriously and not at all think back to when they said their freedom of speech was impacted by Twitter/Facebook when altright people were banned. It would be incredibly tough for them to be consistent when faced with such moral dilemma's! When people got banned for being Nazi's it was upsetting to them and impacted freedom of speech - starts to feel weird when someone argues to protect Nazi's but throws that argument away when its some purple haired person.

(If they are legally outside the bounds of their employment agreement then I believe they should be fired - since we're being consistent here)

 

[sfk324]

Again, I don't view it that way at all.

My uncle got executed at work. Left behind two toddlers and a wife. Sound a bit familiar? That's tragic.

The man who did it died in a firefight with police some time later that day. Thats not tragic, or certainly not on an equal level.

Both children of God and all that, but not all deaths are of equal tragedy.

Individual people's view of tragedy is independent from God's. Again, if we accept the teaching of the Prodigal Son as instructive, God rejoices more for someone who returns to Him. When a sinner dies, there is no chance for repentance. That is an infinitely greater tragedy.

 

[LifelongFan]

If you'd like to compare George Floyd and Charlie Kirk by all means... you have the floor.

Yeah they were both people who got murdered. I'll take George Floyd who was just some random drug addict over a piece of shit like Charlie Kirk. I know conservatives will disagree because of the color of George's skin. Either way neither needed to die the day they did.

 

[LifelongFan]

Charlie Kirk is worth more than 20,000 Palestinian kids to conservatives because one was white and the others weren't. This is the belief set that conservatives have started pushing and exactly why they get Nazi comparisons.

 

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Politicians around the world showing more class than what we have in the US (on both sides)

 

[Irish#1]

One was killed by a lunatic the other was killed by a person of authority that half the country defended.

One was speaking in public. The other was a drug user that refused to obey the law.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Charlie Kirk is worth more than 20,000 Palestinian kids to conservatives because one was white and the others weren't. This is the belief set that conservatives have started pushing and exactly why they get Nazi comparisons.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

verse a famous guy that got assassinated for his religious beliefs.

You're so fucking dumb.

 

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[yankeehater]

Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin Tyler Robinson lived with transgender partner: source

Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin Tyler Robinson was living with a transgender partner who was in the process of transitioning from male to female, a law enforcement source confirmed to The Post Satu…

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[Tejas]

Yeah they were both people who got murdered. I'll take George Floyd who was just some random drug addict over a piece of shit like Charlie Kirk. I know conservatives will disagree because of the color of George's skin. Either way neither needed to die the day they did.

Come on man, he had a history.

Charlie Kirk is worth more than 20,000 Palestinian kids to conservatives because one was white and the others weren't. This is the belief set that conservatives have started pushing and exactly why they get Nazi comparisons.

Where are the generalization police?

 

[ozzman]

Defector (@defector.com)

"It's quite disorienting to watch American institutions obediently line up to display the utmost solemnity for a bigot, whose career achievements were pushing for hatred and violence toward those he saw as inferior to him." https://defector.com/this-is-who-charlie-kirk-was

bsky.app

 

[LifelongFan]

Come on man, he had a history.



Where are the generalization police?

A history where he deserved to be killed?

Where is the concern for murdered Palestinian children? Where is the concern for the war crime of collective punishment? It's so hilarious how conservatives cry for empathy when their debate loser gets killed for a Groyper when they show none to dead kids or dead black men. We know what you are at this point.

 

[TorontoGold]

Come on man, he had a history.



Where are the generalization police?

Conservatives on this forum have demonstrated a lack of empathy for any dead Palestinians. I posted a story about how the IDF hit a hospital, admitted they messed up, and still not a single one said anything about it. These were members of the press or other hospital staff.

 

[Tejas]

A history where he deserved to be killed?

Where is the concern for murdered Palestinian children? Where is the concern for the war crime of collective punishment? It's so hilarious how conservatives cry for empathy when their debate loser gets killed for a Groyper when they show none to dead kids or dead black men. We know what you are at this point.

I said he had a history. Generalizing all conservatives as people who don't give a shit about anyone else is wrong. Right Generalization Police?

No child should be put through war. What about Kirk's kids? Oh they're the wrong color for your empathy. So you made it up that he was just a drug addict. He didn't deserve to die 10 years later for it, but In the moment he was involved in armed robbery all bets are off. Hold a knife to a pregnant woman's belly. Get real.