Interesting comments by Charlie Weis

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My thoughts about Charlie Weis always drift back to being at that BC game in 2008. On the road. In the rain. Shutout loss. Just dreadful.
This was not that long after someone crashed into him on the sidelines and he blew out a knee. It was the back half of another disappointing season. He was trying to coach from the sidelines, and at the end of the first half, we're down 10-0, and he could barely walk. It took him roughly half of halftime just to get into the locker room. Lord knows what the players thought of him by the time he got there. It felt like a metaphor for his whole tenure. He tried hard and he talked tough, but he couldn't do the job.
The whole thing was just sad. Almost as sad as him bad-mouthing Notre Dame all these years later.
 

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Isn't ND still paying him millions per season, though he is long gone? That alone makes me feel no remorse.
 

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Isn't ND still paying him millions per season, though he is long gone? That alone makes me feel no remorse.

Through '11 he had been paid over $11 million. He'll get ND payments through Dec '15.

In addition he got $875K for his OC work at UF and gets $2.5 mill at KU.
 

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Through '11 he had been paid over $11 million. He'll get ND payments through Dec '15.

In addition he got $875K for his OC work at UF and gets $2.5 mill at KU.

So in a ironic sort of way he is getting paid by two programs he is no longer coaching at and those Two programs are paying him to coach against them(possibly). That tells me all i need to know about him and his head coaching abilities
 

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So in a ironic sort of way he is getting paid by two programs he is no longer coaching at and those Two programs are paying him to coach against them(possibly). That tells me all i need to know about him and his head coaching abilities

The man's a genius. lol
 

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Through '11 he had been paid over $11 million. He'll get ND payments through Dec '15.

In addition he got $875K for his OC work at UF and gets $2.5 mill at KU.

I believe he insisted that part of the settlement include his coaches getting a nice buyout as well.
 

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I believe he insisted that part of the settlement include his coaches getting a nice buyout as well.

I've not heard that before. Unless it was written into his contact, I don't see how a terminated party could insist on anything.

The amounts I posted were paid to Weis according to public records.
 
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FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | FEI COLLEGE FOOTBALL RATINGS 2008
The Fremeau Efficiency Index (FEI) considers each of the nearly 20,000 possessions every season in major college football. All drives are filtered to eliminate first-half clock-kills and end-of-game garbage drives and scores. A scoring rate analysis of the remaining possessions then determines the baseline possession efficiency expectations against which each team is measured. A team is rewarded for playing well against good teams, win or lose, and is punished more severely for playing poorly against bad teams than it is rewarded for playing well against bad teams.
Game Efficiency (GE) is the composite possession-by-possession efficiency of a team over the course of a game, a measurement of the success of its offensive, defensive, and special teams units’ essential goals: to maximize the team’s own scoring opportunities and to minimize those of its opponent. FEI ratings take the season-long GE data and adjust for opponent, placing special emphasis on quality performance against good teams, win or lose.
OFEI: Offensive FEI, the opponent-adjusted efficiency of the given team's offense.
DFEI: Defensive FEI, the opponent-adjusted efficiency of the given team's defense.
STE: Special Teams Efficiency, the scoring value earned by field goal, punt and kickoff units measured in points per average game.
FPA: Field Position Advantage, the share of the value of total starting field position earned by each team against its opponents.

Overall Efficiency by Year
2007 - Overall FEI Rank - 74 (SOS = 38)
OFEI = 109
DFEI = 45
STE = 109
FPA = 87

2008 - Overall FEI Rank - 50 (SOS = 18)
OFEI = 67
DFEI = 31
STE = 49
FPA = 29

2009 - Overall FEI Rank - 31 (SOS Rank = 56)
OFEI = 3
DFEI = 68
STE = 69
FPA = 84

I can't find anything for FEI prior to 2007. But for Weis at Notre Dame, his teams were woefully inefficient in all aspects of the game (excluding 2009 Clausen, Tate, Floyd and Rudolph who still finished 6-6). These numbers also indicate to me that the teams were wildly inconsistent over the course of each season. As far as Kansas goes in 2012, they had a brutal schedule, poor offense and defense, nearly dead last in special teams and horrible field position. These are likely to improve some but I expect the same inconsistency from CW at Kansas.

Lets contrast that with Kelly:
2010 - Overall FEI Rank - 23 (SOS Rank = 40)
OFEI = 36
DFEI = 27
STE = 12
FPA = 57

2011 - Overall FEI Rank - 15 (SOS Rank = 27)
OFEI = 26
DFEI = 18
STE = 53
FPA = 64

2012 - Overall FEI Rank - 10 (SOS Rank = 10)
OFEI = 12
DFEI = 16
STE = 90
FPA = 84
You can clearly see as the SOS became tougher, ND increased its overall efficiency Offensively and Defensively while overcoming dips in special teams and field position. There is a consistent increase with Off. and Def. and as most people clearly understand our special teams are just not special. So our 2012 team finished undefeated with the toughest SOS in six years and was extremely efficient on both sides of the ball. I attribute that to Kelly's system.
 

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Interesting comments from ole Charlie.

Glad those years are behind us. I am gonna leave them there.
 

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I've not heard that before. Unless it was written into his contact, I don't see how a terminated party could insist on anything.

The amounts I posted were paid to Weis according to public records.

I heard that more than once. If memory servers me correctly, I think it was put into his settlement and he paid them out of his pocket.
 

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I heard that more than once. If memory servers me correctly, I think it was put into his settlement and he paid them out of his pocket.

Well, that's big of him. But considering the size of his buyout...

Also he managed to re-hire most of them at at least one of his later stops. Ianello and Powlus now work for him at Kansas. Only Polian has really climbed the ladder in any meaningful sense, at least of the guys there in 2009. And the legend of Alford, of course, grows ever deeper.
 

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Seriously, he's collected over $11 million and HE's running his HIS mouth.

Read the article, then send your directive to your coach.

He took the contract that he was given. I read the article. I'd also prefer that he shut up.

Your love and respect for KU is noted.
 
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