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I’m aware. Federal appeals court overturned dismissal based on Supremacy Clause.

County Prosecutor ultimately decided to drop charges.
Oh so you are well aware of what happens when the fucking feds want you dead?

But this fucking rando "legal obsever" is different?

The cuck shouldn't be dead I'll agree.

But what exactly does the 1st Amendment say?
 

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“Who cares, they have insurance” is one of my most favorite out of touch progressive excuses. 5 stars, sir.

lmao because you can see how fucking stupid it sounds to care about the property damage. Ohhhh nyyooooo the Dunkin has graffiti on it!

That's supposed to illicit an adult response? It's property crime which will get dealt with.
 

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So when you called the Dems fascist, which fascists would you compare them to? We’ve established Nazi’s are a no go, so which did you mean? Just want to make sure that we all understand the ground rules of calling something fascist. We speaking USSR Stalin, Mussolini? Which is appropriate.

Fuck man, the Dunkin in Minneapolis has a broken window? Fuck, that’s horrible. I hope they have insurance so they can get the costs covered! Anyways, really glad ICE is struggling to hit Obama numbers. Remember the race baiting communist that he’s known as around here.
Let me tell you, that mfer wore a tan suit once. That was a national disgrace. Glad we'll never have to live through that again
 

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Unironically using chad, simp, and cuck for starters.

How old are you? 14?
Quite literally waiting for any response to what I said.

And you are quite literally crying about the words I used

For future reference when replying to you should I use
He/Him
She/Her
They/Them


Etc........?
 

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Dude I literally had this conversation like 2 days ago.

He didn't deserve to die because he's a simp.

But the fucking simp showed up and decided that 1st Amendment right to peaceful assembly wasn't enough.

Put his hands on a LEO (no he didn’t) because he pushed a female (Who also forgot peaceful assembly is a right, but physical interferrence is not. Literally begging for an escalation right out of the commie play book of pressure from the top and bottom btw.

He doesn't deserve to be dead for being a simp, but when a simp thinks he's a Chad instead of a cuck bad shit happens.


You wanna know what the cuck could have done as a "legal observer"?

Fucking observe not get himself involved. (That’s what he did … filming with his phone and trying to help someone)

You wanna know who I blame?
Motherfucking tampon Timmy and fucking Flan from southside. (Who is probably the Lt. Governor of Minnesota.)
(Who gives a shit who you blame. The facts speak for themselves. You are Entitled to be wrong but I’m not obliged to care. )
You were probably all up in arms saying J6 was an insurrection and all those J6'ers deserved what they got weren't you?
(Yes … I also have a theory that ICE is made up of the same dumb motherfuckers who participated in J6)
But it's (D)ifferent right? (Of course it’s different. Is that seriously a real question?)

I bet Ruby Ridge and Waco are what you dream about happening to every Trump voter. (Dude you are reaching)

EIther you're an American or a fucking commie? (i’m as American as they come. I spent my entire career serving in the DoD. I fucking despise fascists. You?)

Pick one and declare.
 

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“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
 

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Yea, spent way too much time trying to think of how J6 and this could be similar.

I’m dumbfounded by that one. It’s not like Alex Pretti stormed the Target Bovino was jerking off in wearing his SS cosplay coat.

Also, Waco had a pedophile cult leader trying to raise up a private paramilitary force. The similarities to Trump are striking, now that you mention it.
 
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If you despise fascists I will be on on the front line right next to you laying cover fire down as we go over the berm.


To my eyes he seems to be trying to de escalate a situation that could get real hostile real quick. Even if I think he's being a simp.

Around the 50 second mark is where you can see Pretti using his hand to push an ICE officer away from the woman that was shoved. It looks like his left hand.

Now I'll admit I'm not Albert Einstein or Stephen Hawking levels of intelligence, but I'm pretty sure he knew he was armed when he showed up to this location.

And recognizing that my intelligence isn't quite on the level of the previously stated geniuses I may be wrong.

But as I firmly believe that that the 2nd Amendment is the Amendment that gives every other Amendment their teeth.

Even my dumbass knows that you don't show up to a protest carrying a firearm and start shoving LEO's.

From the slow mo footage I've seen it does look like Pretti was disarmed, the officer who pulled the pistol then had a disharge of Pretti's pistol, and the agents shot Pretti.

But unlike the vast majority of liberals I can admit 2 things are wrong at the same time.

Personally for me there's no difference between this and Bryana Taylor. A sad situation that shouldn't have happened except for a really fucked up series of events.
 
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Yea, spent way too much time trying to think of how J6 and this could be similar.

I’m dumbfounded by that one. It’s not like Alex Pretti stormed the Target Bovino was jerking off in wearing his SS cosplay coat.

Also, Waco had a pedophile cult leader trying to raise up a private paramilitary force. The similarities are striking, now that you mention it.
Let me help then.

A bunch of dumbasses show up at a location because they don't like the law of the land.

Pretti being one of those dumbasses.
Branch Davidians being some more.
Oh and J6'ers being even more still.

If we wanna get technical I'll admit Ruby Ridge is a stretch here since that was entrapment.
 

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Quite literally waiting for any response to what I said.

And you are quite literally crying about the words I used

For future reference when replying to you should I use
He/Him
She/Her
They/Them


Etc........?
Nope. Cringing =/= crying

Cringing means your post gave me second hand embarrassment it was so juvenile and idiotic.
Now I'll admit I'm not Albert Einstein or Stephen Hawking levels of intelligence
Thanks for clearing that up.
 

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Here's an example:

Protestor behavior is shaped by how ICE/CBP forces have assaulted MSP residents and canvassed neighborhoods door to door looking for any kind of immigrant, so of course protestors in this case who observed this apprehension attempt were applying their usual protesting activities, honking horns, etc. They of course didn't know that individual was a sex offender (IF that's really true - I'm not 100% buying an ICE officer's explanation) so this is not an example of an individual or group knowingly harboring a criminal or trying to stop the apprehension of a criminal.

ICE's primary job is immigration, obviously. The focus has primarily been on removing illegal immigrants with serious criminal charges, but there's absolutely no reason they shouldn't and don't apprehend and remove ALL people who are in violation of our immigration laws. That's their job.

But do you see where the problem is? What does removing ALL people who are in violation of our immigration laws accomplish? I would love to hear your justification. From what I can see, hard-working non-criminal immigrants and their families including children are being grabbed and detained, and this is doing nothing to reduce serious crime and murders. These are not hardened criminals and "the worst of the worst."

And when it's done at large in cities like Chicago and MSP, it's leaving communities scared and holed up and forcing businesses like restaurants to close. And in many places, entire labor forces detained (and the remaining workers no longer showing up for work) have shut down business and bankrupted famers who have lost their crop-harvesting workforce.

And the confrontative way they operate, going door to door, agitates communities especially because ICE/CBP forces are breaking windows and breaking down doors and grabbing individuals and where most of the time they have no judicial warrant and are only grabbing individuals based on color; and a lot of the time, they're grabbing legal residents and citizens, where they maybe release them days or weeks later with no apologies. Can you see how communities are going to feel attacked when they're being assaulted by a large armed force going door to door and terrorizing them?

And yes, being in the U.S. illegally is a civil offense where deportation/removal is the penalty, but past admins kept a lot of the action near the borders (mostly the southern border) and applied common sense policies such as being more lenient for example if there were U.S. citizen children involved.

Trump and his admin via executive orders (EOs) have expanded ICE and especially CBP domains to the interior and are applying their immigrant hunts to entire cities with large armed forces. Executive expansion that Congress could circumvent, but they won't dare.

Again, all this stuff is what is prompting citizens to rise up and defend their cities. They're technically laws but the way and to the extreme degree their being enforced is highly confrontative and tyrannical so you're seeing how that can motivate communities to organize and resist.

What's the end game? If the admin continues to ramp up via massive hiring enabled by the BBB and send in these larger armed ICE/CBP forces into major cities, mostly blue ones, you're soon going to have chaos and confrontation and devastated communities all over the country, likely in at least 8-10 cities. Is that the America you want to live in? And how is that not seen as largely political assaults and voter suppression?

And Trump, again via the BBB and numerous EOs, is doubling ICE detention centers annually to house hundreds of thousands immigrants in terrible conditions and when they do deport them, many times it's to dangerous 3rd-party countries. Plus there's a lot of stories about immigrant detainees being forced to work for $1/day so they can pay for their keep and food at the end of the week by handing that meager sum over to detention center guards. And isn't it nice that the huge prison / detention center companies - CoreCivic and GEO Group - are making $ Billions off these efforts along with giving a lot of $ back to Trump and Maga. And Trump keeps his retribution tour going.

I just don't see the net positive for America - I see brutality, invasions by armed aggressive forces, communities and families devastated, business shut down, a healthy amount of immigrants dying in the detention centers, major centers with real serious criminal and gang activities not having enough ICE/CBP officers to battle and apprehend these hardened criminal illegals because their forces instead are screwing around in blue cities with much lower immigration populations. It doesn't make any sense. And the cities they're going after already have declining crime stats. And again, what is being done to stop the real criminal activities around the country by gangs of illegals?

You reference laws, but it's the application and degree of force and the specificity of the actions in blue states only that is agitating and pissing people off.
 

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Who here has actually lived and worked in another country?
If your visa runs out, you are fucked. No one cares. No one would ever fight their own countrymen over whether i get to stay in Japan illegally after my visa expires. This is absurd dumbass USA first world nonsense type shit. If someone stays in a country illegally or sneaks in, there is little excuse to not send them back.
But now thel eft has decided to sendpeople back is awful nazi behavior. WTF is wrong with people.
I work overseas, if I just decide to stay without a visa, noone will give a rat's ass of sympathy. Why is America "evil" for trying to follow the same rules? It's all complete bullshit.
Everyone is trying so hard to do mental gymnastics and paint the criminals as victims and the people trying to follow the rules as Nazis.
Watching this shit from overseas is making my brain melt. The lefties are verifying every absurd stereotype.
Second, if I was an illegal immigrant in another country, I would like to think if I saw citizens rioting over me andliterally dying, I'd feel extremely fucking awful, but somehow we just excuse the illegal immigrants and call each other fascists.... How insane is this guys?
Are we really going to further fracture our country because non americans are breaking the law.?
 
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Who here has actually lived and worked in another country?
If your visa runs out, you are fucked. No one cares. No one would ever fight their own countrymen over whether i get to stay in Japan illegally after my visa expires. This is absurd dumbass USA first world nonsense type shit. If someone stays in a country illegally or sneaks in, there is little excuse to not send them back.
But now thel eft has decided to sendpeople back is awful nazi behavior. WTF is wrong with people.
I work overseas, if I just decide to stay without a visa, noone will give a rat's ass of sympathy. Why is America "evil" for trying to follow the same rules? It's all complete bullshit.
Everyone is trying so hard to do mental gymnastics and paint the criminals as victims and the people trying to follow the rules as Nazis.
Watching this shit from overseas is making my brain melt. The lefties are verifying every absurd stereotype.
Second, if I was an illegal immigrant in another country, I would like to think if I saw citizens rioting over me andliterally dying, I'd feel extremely fucking awful, but somehow we just excuse the illegal immigrants and call each other fascists.... How insane is this guys?
Are we really going to further fracture our country because non americans are breaking the law.?
I think the answer is complex but a lot of the left is lead by foreigners with an agenda.

Hippies that used to be antigovernment an antiestablishment have aligned their brains with this agenda.

The left is such a mixed bag of people with one common goal. And that’s to gut the US of it values and customs and replace it with something else.

They don’t realize it but their end goals are very different, but how they get there is the same. So here we are.
 

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I think the answer is complex but a lot of the left is lead by foreigners with an agenda.

Hippies that used to be antigovernment an antiestablishment have aligned their brains with this agenda.

The left is such a mixed bag of people with one common goal. And that’s to gut the US of it values and customs and replace it with something else.

They don’t realize it but their end goals are very different, but how they get there is the same. So here we are.
This is the dumbest thing I’ve read in quite some time.

Or, the left does not want to see America reduced to a place where federal agents swarm communities as an act of political retribution.
 
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So wouldn't Trump similarly be able to get those layups if he "shutdown" the border? I'm not following.

In 2016 Obama was hitting 90%?

Because self-deportations are not something you can do functionally with government policy lmao. What do you want to do, offer each family $50K to leave? That's ridiculous. It's a labor markets that impact the self deportations.

I scoff at Drayer because I'm baffled at how routinely he gets shown to sensationalize and post outright incorrect figures. I know you at least put an ounce of care into your sourcing. MAGA_Man_69420 posting pictures of murdered people isn't a useful piece of info outside of Facebook groups.

Not a fan of exploitable underclass is a real howler, because there already is a pretty well established exploited underclass. They're the overly incarnated folks doing labor for like 10 cents an hour. But, please lecture me on how some random guy working the fields hurts your fee fees because you don't like to see him being exploited*****

****Still unclear what you mean by exploitation because giving poor people any sort of government assistance is reallllllyyyy bad and labor laws are just there to protect unions or whatever.

Your entire post has the depth of Jar Jar in the Senate.

Thanks for sharing your opinion on how many illegals are in the USA. Fucking troll.
 

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I would hate to be the poor patient whose scans you're reading. The dude steps out of the way of the vehicle as he's shooting her.


LOL do you even hear yourself? In order to defend yourself you apparently need to let someone hit you. Commie punk bitch - just admit it.
 

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This is the dumbest thing I’ve read in quite some time.

Or, the left does not want to see America reduced to a place where federal agents swarm communities as an act of political retribution.
Which side is swarming politically? Democrats should change their mascot from Donkeys to Mosquitos.
 

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LOL do you even hear yourself? In order to defend yourself you apparently need to let someone hit you. Commie punk bitch - just admit it.
Bishop is adamant he was hit. You can clearly see him step out of the way. How is he defending himself with the two shots through her driver side window as the car is pulling away from him?

Should he have fired two more through the rear window to defend himself some more?
 

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Disgusting.

This guy an ICU nurse that did more for his community than someone like that piece of shit Ashli Babbitt who MAGA cried over. Who Trump honored with a military funeral and a $5 million dollar payout. Someone that actually brought about their own death by enacting violence. She stormed our nations capitol he tried to help a lady that was shoved down.

Unarmed woman shot by police for ignoring a lawful order? Double standard much commie? Does your right hand even know what your left is doing? Are you OK? Applying YOUR standards applied to Ashli Babbitt's killer to these MN killers. The cases are way worse in MN - armed dude initiating contact. lady drives car at officer. lady crawls through a broken window. If you can't see your own double standard you are a straight up lunatic.
 

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Bishop is adamant he was hit. You can clearly see him step out of the way. How is he defending himself with the two shots through her driver side window as the car is pulling away from him?

Should he have fired two more through the rear window to defend himself some more?

You admit she drove at him or else he would not have HAD TO GET OUT OF THE WAY. Nutso
 

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Unarmed woman shot by police for ignoring a lawful order? Double standard much commie? Does your right hand even know what your left is doing? Are you OK? Applying YOUR standards applied to Ashli Babbitt's killer to these MN killers. The cases are way worse in MN - armed dude initiating contact. lady drives car at officer. lady crawls through a broken window. If you can't see your own double standard you are a straight up lunatic.
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These two situations look similar to you?

Fucking retard.
 
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