Immigration

[NDWarrior]

Propaganda and an execution...

 

[Fbolt]

My resume belongs to Christ and I'll be praying for you and everyone for peace

Exactly what I thought - Stay at home behind the keyboard. Meanwhile, while you analyze video clips, note that there are people out there doing their best to do right. Next time, please think before you type.

 

[Fbolt]

I look towards Christ, His teachings, His actions and his soft and firm heart posture. I try not to be like Him. I try to be his servant.

Wouldn't Christ-like teachings be more like the following: Unconditional love, forgiveness, humility, and selfless service? More like loving neighbors and enemies, practicing compassion, seeking justice, and living simply.

Not trying to call people out and making quick assumptions, being ready to assess blame.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Bishy having standards for anything in his life would make his existence a paradox. Only person on IE that can't defend himself LOL. Sad sad sad round little person.

Be quiet Taffeta until you can participate in the conversations like a grown man. Try to discuss stuff like an adult instead of all the weak adolescent attempts to insult.

 

[TorontoGold]

Be quiet Taffeta until you can participate in the conversations like a grown man. Try to discuss stuff like an adult instead of all the weak adolescent attempts to insult.

Why are you dodging everyone? Respond to Gattaca. If you don’t deem me to be an adult why do you ignore others? Don’t hide, don’t run, don’t be a coward. Show us that big brain of yours Dr. Nick.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Exactly what I thought - Stay at home behind the keyboard. Meanwhile, while you analyze video clips, note that there are people out there doing their best to do right. Next time, please think before you type.

I volunteer at my parish (youth ministry) and with a homeless shelter (overnight stay and coordinating medical assistance)
I also spend time hiking, playing basketball with my local firefighters next door, and raising my child.

I also spend time in prayer for people that try to persecute myself and more importantly others.

 

[greyhammer90]

WSJ calling for Trump to withdraw ICE from Minneapolis and saying "the Trump Administration's spin on this simply isn't believable."

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/time-for-ice-to-pause-in-minneapolis-e9ecf097?st=W3xjHK

Notable for me because you'd be hard pressed to find a more conservative editorial board. They're basically all card carrying Heritage Foundation folks.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Why are you dodging everyone? Respond to Gattaca. If you don’t deem me to be an adult why do you ignore others? Don’t hide, don’t run, don’t be a coward. Show us that big brain of yours Dr. Nick.

I've responded to gattaca all day. Catch up and pay attention. Seriously, stop begging for my attention with you adolescent and weak nonsense. Grow up and participate on the discussions like a man, like an adult. If you do, we'll stop making fun of you and I won't embarrass you all the time. You can do it. We believe in you. Show us!

 

[Bantry19]

No-
Let’s keep it simple

Law of the lands established on immigration long before trump

Biden opens border

Millions cross border

People realize that is bad. Trump elected (duly elected President)

Trump closes border

Trump enforces law (long established law of the land)

Democrats don’t like law- protest- oppose law enforcement

Select individuals push themselves into dangerous situations provoking federal agents and get shot

Nobody gets gunned down, except for the several Americans who have been gunned down by the illegals Biden admitted and Dems snoozed on.

See? This gestapo framing is fiction

You keep bringing up immigrants. I’m not arguing about immigration law. The discussion at hand is, and has been, a federal agent killing someone.

Americans can have political disagreements on immigration policy. One would think, Americans can agree that federal agents cannot be executing people and need to be held to a standard of accountability. You can retain your anti-immigration bonafides.

 

[TorontoGold]

I've responded to gattaca all day. Catch up and pay attention. Seriously, stop begging for my attention with you adolescent and weak nonsense. Grow up and participate on the discussions like a man, like an adult. If you do, we'll stop making fun of you and I won't embarrass you all the time. You can do it. We believe in you. Show us!

Address his points without spiralling. You’ve never embarrassed me LOL you have a forum full of people who question your intelligence and openly mock your outlandish claims. Nobody thinks you’re trusted with anything more than a game of Operation with your grandkids haha. Respond to the other posters who don’t usually post here, see if you can try that out, fresh slate for you.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Address his points without spiralling. You’ve never embarrassed me LOL you have a forum full of people who question your intelligence and openly mock your outlandish claims. Nobody thinks you’re trusted with anything more than a game of Operation with your grandkids haha. Respond to the other posters who don’t usually post here, see if you can try that out, fresh slate for you.

Don't let him catch you being brought down with him and pray for him and the others

 

[Bishop2b5]

Address his points without spiralling. You’ve never embarrassed me LOL you have a forum full of people who question your intelligence and openly mock your outlandish claims. Nobody thinks you’re trusted with anything more than a game of Operation with your grandkids haha. Respond to the other posters who don’t usually post here, see if you can try that out, fresh slate for you.

You got me, Taffeta!

 

[Bishop2b5]

You keep bringing up immigrants. I’m not arguing about immigration law. The discussion at hand is, and has been, a federal agent killing someone.

Americans can have political disagreements on immigration policy. One would think, Americans can agree that federal agents cannot be executing people and need to be held to a standard of accountability. You can retain your anti-immigration bonafides.

Federal agents aren't executing people. This sort of hyperbole and misrepresentation does nothing to further the discussion. They aren't out there looking for people to gun down. You have thousands of people who are interfering with LE and Federal agents enforcing the laws enacted by a democratically elected congress... laws that aren't significantly different than those of most other countries in regards to their own immigration policies.

Now, if people disagree with those laws, that's fine. That's their right, but refusing to obey them because they disagree with them is not OK, and harassing and interfering with LE and federal agents lawfully enforcing those laws is absolutely not OK. Confronting the officers who are doing their job, harassing them, threatening them, assaulting them, and interfering with them doing their job is not only not OK, but is all but guaranteed to lead to a bad outcome. The protestors are in the wrong. Period. They are interfering with the lawful enforcement of federal laws. If they don't like those laws, they're free to attempt to change them by electing different lawmakers, but what they're doing now is unlawful, anarchic, and is the cause of all the violence and both shootings.

 

[drayer54]

My guess is that the Feds leaked this and have been all over it.

 

[NDWarrior]

The Second Amendment Doesn't Care About Your Pro-Fascist Agenda

 

[Bantry19]

Federal agents aren't executing people. This sort of hyperbole and misrepresentation does nothing to further the discussion. They aren't out there looking for people to gun down. You have thousands of people who are interfering with LE and Federal agents enforcing the laws enacted by a democratically elected congress... laws that aren't significantly different than those of most other countries in regards to their own immigration policies.

Now, if people disagree with those laws, that's fine. That's their right, but refusing to obey them because they disagree with them is not OK, and harassing and interfering with LE and federal agents lawfully enforcing those laws is absolutely not OK. Confronting the officers who are doing their job, harassing them, threatening them, assaulting them, and interfering with them doing their job is not only not OK, but is all but guaranteed to lead to a bad outcome. The protestors are in the wrong. Period. They are interfering with the lawful enforcement of federal laws. If they don't like those laws, they're free to attempt to change them by electing different lawmakers, but what they're doing now is unlawful, anarchic, and is the cause of all the violence and both shootings.

No hyperbole. No misrepresentation.

 

[drayer54]

The Second Amendment Doesn't Care About Your Pro-Fascist Agenda

You lost me when you showed you are an incompetent douche with the fascist bullshit. Bringing a douche to support your dumb commentary is even better.

NRA does appear to be correct though-

 

[drayer54]

No hyperbole. No misrepresentation.

Nobody has argued that they shot him.

 

[NDShark]

I don't understand how anybody could try to justify a literal murder. What possible justification is there for this? Drayer/bishop -- surely murdering Americans is too far, right? Who's the enemy here?

 

[drayer54]

I don't understand how anybody could try to justify a literal murder. What possible justification is there for this? Drayer/bishop -- surely murdering Americans is too far, right? Who's the enemy here?

I don’t want the government to murder anyone. I’ve said the details are murky at best and need to be investigated. I don’t think the same crowd looked at the shooting of Ashley Babbitt as clear and obvious murder right away even though it was a law enforcement shooting.

We saw hype, hysteria, and lies in Ferguson that were calmed with investigation and a justified shooting.

We saw details cool the initial anger in Kenosha.

I’m just saying that I’d look at the full details and body cam. We don’t know the officers POV. We don’t know the full details and to me, this one is murky.

 

[Sea Turtle]

My guess is that the Feds leaked this and have been all over it.

Lt. Governor Kathy Flanigan has been exposed to be part of the group. She has deleted all social media accounts. Just when you think the leadership there is bonkers, it just gets even worse.

 

[drayer54]

Lt. Governor Kathy Flanigan has been exposed to be part of the group. She has deleted all social media accounts. Just when you think the leadership there is bonkers, it just gets even worse.

There’s nothing left to surprise me with the government of Minnesota. Fraud, crime, rigged elections, insurrection, or whatever. That place is a corrupt shithole. Whoever replaces Walz will not be good. Even the Republicans suck there. They have the pillow man and the guy they ran for Senate last cycle may have been an all time stooge. The weather sucks. The people are weird. I also hate the airport.

 

[GoIrish41]

Nobody has argued that they shot him …

… at point-blank range in the back of the head. Looks like an execution. Don’t be an idiot.

 

[NDVirginia19]

… at point-blank range in the back of the head. Looks like an execution. Don’t be an idiot.

Does this make any sense to you? Do you legitimately think this was a premeditated execution of a civilian?

 

[Sea Turtle]

There’s nothing left to surprise me with the government of Minnesota. Fraud, crime, rigged elections, insurrection, or whatever. That place is a corrupt shithole. Whoever replaces Walz will not be good. Even the Republicans suck there. They have the pillow man and the guy they ran for Senate last cycle may have been an all time stooge. The weather sucks. The people are weird. I also hate the airport.

Reuters and NPR reporters have also now been exposed in the chat. I guess it's a team sport.

 

[GoIrish41]

Does this make any sense to you? Do you legitimately think this was a premeditated execution of a civilian?

I don’t recall saying anything was premeditated.” Maybe Biship or someone else who doesn’t care about their dignity, ethics or credibility can help you move the goalposts. You don’t seem up to doing it on your own.

 

[drayer54]

Reuters and NPR reporters have also now been exposed in the chat. I guess it's a team sport.

Not shocked. It’s all one team.


Anti-Fascists.

 

[NDWarrior]

You lost me when you showed you are an incompetent douche with the fascist bullshit. Bringing a douche to support your dumb commentary is even better.

I appreciate your sensitivity to the term Fascist but lighten up Francis, I was simply posting former Rep. Kinzinger's (R) title to the video he posted about staying consistent when it comes to 2nd Amendment gun rights. Those are not my words. But thank you for the douche shower Mr. Classy.

NRA does appear to be correct though-

Just also be sure to note that The NRA is also calling for a "robust and comprehensive investigation that takes place to determine if the use of force was justified." And that The NRA later replied to and X post by the First Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Central District of California as "dangerous and wrong."

 

[NDWarrior]

There’s nothing left to surprise me with the government of Minnesota. Fraud, crime, rigged elections, insurrection, or whatever. That place is a corrupt shithole. Whoever replaces Walz will not be good. Even the Republicans suck there. They have the pillow man and the guy they ran for Senate last cycle may have been an all time stooge. The weather sucks. The people are weird. I also hate the airport.

Well, you're just a ray of sunshine, aren't you?

 

[Bishop2b5]

I don’t recall saying anything was premeditated.” Maybe Biship or someone else who doesn’t care about their dignity, ethics or credibility can help you move the goalposts. You don’t seem up to doing it on your own.

Do you genuinely believe LE or ICE are intentionally looking for chances to just kill someone for no good reason? Please tell me you don't actually think that. They don't want to kill anyone. OTOH, if you try to run them over or pull a gun on them, they, like virtually every police force in the world, will shoot to kill in that situation.