Immigration

[drayer54]

I'm happy to hear you feel safe at home with the marginalized are attacked and their protectors are being killed.

When illegal immigrants poured across the border and killed innocent Americans, dem’s couldn’t put down their soy lattes. When I see rapists, murderers, and criminals arrested (or the marginalized as you refer to them) I view that as a good thing. Their protectors when sampled all look like lunatics. Normal law-abiding Americans that aren’t out participating in the riots and violent protests are in literally zero danger. The success rate of ICE agitators of living who haven’t driven a vehicle towards federal agent or showed up armed and questionably reached for something during a conflict is pretty solid. This idea that the people are under attack from the government is insane. It’s literally insane. It was more plausible when the government was letting criminals pour across our border.

These people have a 10000000x more legitimate reason to feel that they were under attack from their left-wing government:


The marginalized:


The protectors 🤮




Again, the left has been disastrous on this issue for years and has zero credibility and is complete faux outrage and hypocritical standards. I can’t take them seriously on the border treatment of “the marginalized.”

They did this on purpose and it is completely unforgivable

 

[drayer54]

I ask for humane deportations and I ask for tight border control with a path for citizenship for all (not just "educated" or Trump Gold Card millionaires)

I literally want illegal immigration to stop. I even want deportation, especially if commiting crimes within the US

So you want local law enforcement to honor ICE detainers and coordinate with ICE? You know, seamless turnovers of criminals from trained cops to feds without chaos. An end to sanctuary city immigration policies?

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

You are cherry picking the worst of the worst. I already said I want criminals deported but nonviolent offenders who have proven valuable members to my parish with construction sites in my town abandoned are being abducted after dropping of their kids?

I can walk and chew gum. I want violent offenders deported (or imprisoned). I want criminals humanely deported, and I want good hardworking humans to be treated with the upmost Christ like respect and provide them with dignity and a path to citizenship

 

[Bishop2b5]

Those "marginalized" were deported at a higher rate under Obama with next to no issues relative to what were facing.
There are humane responses to nonviolent crimes and there are inhumane responses

Except that the difference is there was no organized rioting and protesting when Obama's admin was deporting them, even at the higher rates. This is as much to do with "Orange Man bad" and we must opposed everything he says as it is "We disagree with the immigration laws." There have been countless examples of things that were virtually identical under Obama and Trump, but leftists had a meltdown about it happening under Trump and didn't bat an eyelash about it happening under Obama. It's faux outrage. It's based on a narrative and who they're told to resist and be mad at, not reason or facts or common sense.

In reality, there's no reasonable justification to oppose the enforcement of US immigration laws passed by Congress to determine who can come here legally, what qualifications they must meet, the process they must go through, and so on. Those laws are standard around the globe - every country has the right to control who enters their country - and ours are very much in line with most other countries' laws. So why all the violence and protests and over-the-top resistance to this admin enforcing those laws in this one place?

 

[drayer54]

Hammas supporter? Really, says the brave American who stays at home safely while his country is restored from four years of chaos while longstanding laws are enforced by a duly elected president to ensure criminal illegal migrants are detained and deported. (That's giving you the benefit of the doubt you weren’t sitting idly by supporting the open border policies that led to smuggling children, drugs, gang members, cartels, and military age members of hostile foreign nation with zero regard for national security)

FIFY

 

[TracyGraham]

You are cherry picking the worst of the worst. I already said I want criminals deported but nonviolent offenders who have proven valuable members to my parish with construction sites in my town abandoned are being abducted after dropping of their kids?

I can walk and chew gum. I want violent offenders deported (or imprisoned). I want criminals humanely deported, and I want good hardworking humans to be treated with the upmost Christ like respect and provide them with dignity and a path to citizenship

But can you answer why you think Obama's method was the humane way? Were those 3 million or whatever the number all criminals? Is the current version inherently worse or do they have to act in a certain manner because all the dregs are out during working hours to antagonize them?

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

I know I won't be changing any heart postures in here.

But remember my brothers, you can have both a soft and firm heart. I know someone else who can help with all on both sides of this and I'll be praying for His peace.

 

[drayer54]

You are cherry picking the worst of the worst. I already said I want criminals deported but nonviolent offenders who have proven valuable members to my parish with construction sites in my town abandoned are being abducted after dropping of their kids?

I can walk and chew gum. I want violent offenders deported (or imprisoned). I want criminals humanely deported, and I want good hardworking humans to be treated with the upmost Christ like respect and provide them with dignity and a path to citizenship

So you want local law enforcement to honor ICE detainers and coordinate with ICE? You know, seamless turnovers of criminals from trained cops to feds without chaos. An end to sanctuary city immigration policies? Do you not agree that this would be a SAFE and effective way to do exactly what you are saying you already support?

 

[drayer54]

But can you answer why you think Obama's method was the humane way? Were those 3 million or whatever the number all criminals? Is the current version inherently worse or do they have to act in a certain manner because all the dregs are out during working hours to antagonize them?

Obama’s ICE was able to do the same thing without the scrutiny. The media and the public just viewed it (D)ifferently.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Kyle Rittenhouse brought an AR15, actually killed someone, and now does the MAGA influence rounds and spoke at APAC.

Because being attacked by a rioter and having LE try to disarm you are exactly the same thing.

 

[yankeehater]

I apologize for incorrectly using the word protester. They are not there to protest ICE but interfere with their duties. That is their stated objective. The people behind this are also asking for people to do what he did. Take a bullet to help build the anti-ICE anti-Trump sentiment.

 

[drayer54]

Kyle Rittenhouse brought an AR15, actually killed someone, and now does the MAGA influence rounds and spoke at APAC.

He was exercising his second amendment rights, I didn’t realize you guys were suddenly cool with needing a justification to carry.

Also he was disarmed before he was murdered so it was wholly irrelevant anyways.

The left was also excited and wrong in their analysis on Rittenhouse for years. We always heard he took his rifle across state lines to go hunt and murder the BLM folks. It was obvious and on video then and the media had to eat crow when the trial came around. Rittenhouse was appreciated by some because he was wrongfully targeted by the media, wrongfully targeted by the left, happened to wax some pretty bad dudes, and made them all look like idiots. That said, I still have some questions about life choices and parenting there. But thanks for reminding me of a similar instance where the left demonstrated they have zero common sense or knowledge on this topic.

 

[Fbolt]

Hammas supporter? Really, says the brave German who stays at home safely while his country collapses and Jews are murdered. (That's giving you the benefit of the doubt you aren't one to join in on that action)

Really? List your experience and bestow upon us your grand knowledge.

Guarantee you'll come up short in every possible way.

 

[GATTACA!]

The left was also excited and wrong in their analysis on Rittenhouse for years. We always heard he took his rifle across state lines to go hunt and murder the BLM folks. It was obvious and on video then and the media had to eat crow when the trial came around. Rittenhouse was appreciated by some because he was wrongfully targeted by the media, wrongfully targeted by the left, happened to wax some pretty bad dudes, and made them all look like idiots. That said, I still have some questions about life choices and parenting there. But thanks for reminding me of a similar instance where the left demonstrated they have zero common sense or knowledge on this topic.

I'm not questioning if Rittenhouse was allowed to be carrying his weapon.

Im responding to the "wElL wHaT wAs hE eXpEcTiNg wHeN hE bRoUgHt a gUn wIth hIm??" argument.

 

[Fbolt]

This is a nonsense MAGA talking point. He didn’t make a move to do shit. He’s on all fours when he’s disarmed.

And resisting arrest. Consequences can at times be horrible.

 

[GATTACA!]

Because being attacked by a rioter and having LE try to disarm you are exactly the same thing.

They didn't try, they did disarm him. Then they shot him afterwords.

 

[GATTACA!]

And resisting arrest. Consequences can at times be horrible.

Resisting arrest is grounds for execution. Got it.

 

[Fbolt]

Nice twist. Not what I stated.

Say it doesn't matter what I write without actually stating it.

 

[dublinirish]

Resisting government tyranny in Iran = good
Resting government tyranny in USA = bad?


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[yankeehater]

College soccer star, girlfriend dead as illegal immigrant’s record ignites lawmaker fury statewide

Fatal North Carolina crash allegedly caused by repeat DUI offender sparks heated debate over sanctuary policies and immigration enforcement failures.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Fbolt]

That's acceptable.

 

[drayer54]

Really? List your experience and bestow upon us your grand knowledge.

Guarantee you'll come up short in every possible way.

The experience is welcoming these “marginalized” people with open arms and assuming the right to oppose and interfere with the enforcement of laws with which the left disagrees. Somehow tracking pictures, license plates, doxxing agents, and uploading info to coordinated databases used to target these agents and interfere with federal lawn enforcement is the work of “protectors” being equated to saving the Jews from nazis and these motherfuckers below are somehow compared to the Jews. This is batshit crazy.

 

[Bishop2b5]

They didn't try, they did disarm him. Then they shot him afterwords.

You don't know that. Not enough evidence has come out to determine that yet. Lots of things look one way until further evidence comes out and you realize it wasn't what you thought when you had only part of the story. When the Good woman was shot, a few of you here on IE swore it was "this" and yet when other evidence came out, it turned out you were 100% wrong. Wait and see when all the evidence comes out. You may be right, but usually aren't.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Resisting government tyranny in Iran = good
Resting government tyranny in USA = bad?

How is an administration enforcing its immigration laws, passed by a democratically elected legislature, tyranny?

 

[drayer54]

Resisting government tyranny in Iran = good
Resting government tyranny in USA = bad?


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Tyranny = everything I don’t like?

 

[GATTACA!]

You don't know that. Not enough evidence has come out to determine that yet. Lots of things look one way until further evidence comes out and you realize it wasn't what you thought when you had only part of the story. When the Good woman was shot, a few of you here on IE swore it was "this" and yet when other evidence came out, it turned out you were 100% wrong. Wait and see when all the evidence comes out. You may be right, but usually aren't.

There’s nothing to debate on this topic. Watch the video. The guy that shoots him is looking directly at the one that removes the gun from his holster. He shoots him as soon as the other officer moves away.

 

[ozzman]

 

[drayer54]

I'm not questioning if Rittenhouse was allowed to be carrying his weapon.

Im responding to the "wElL wHaT wAs hE eXpEcTiNg wHeN hE bRoUgHt a gUn wIth hIm??" argument.

Right and I pointed out that Rittenhouse is an amazing example because the Left analyzed it with about .1% accuracy in the days, weeks, and months after the event. Had one of the left-wing pedos or wife beaters there taken him down it would have raised a Darwin question for him and the parents. Instead, it was three low-life’s who earned their fate. I don’t think the in-depth play by play is going to matter in Minneapolis. This guy put himself in a bad situation and the officers are dealing with chaos and reacted to a perceived threat. I think the threshold to justify that threat will be easily met in this situation from what I am seeing, but we shall see. My confidence in the justice system diminishes more day by day, so you never know.

To be clear, I’m 100% confident the woman in the car got what she had coming and that agent is legally justified. That one is easy.
This second one is a lot murkier, and I still want more footage, but I disagree with the “there’s no debate“ notion.

 

[yankeehater]

Agents asked where's the gun proves the point they didn't know who had the gun and only that he had one. Shot rings out and then the others pull out their guns. This video doesn't help the man's case in my opinion. He also bumped the officer when he tried to intervene with their interaction with the woman.

 

[Bantry19]

Hamas supporters at work. ⬆️

In a situation like Pretti, a ton of confusion. Those who just label it a murder have clearly never faced any adversity-type/chaos situation where life/death applies.

Wtf does Hamas have anything to do with this? Congratulations on resorting to throwing out random and meaningless labels because you can’t actually come up with an intelligent thought in your head. Way to go sport.