Fr Jenkins at the White House

IrishLax

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He caught a crazy amount of shit from students over this, because they have strict rules on a campus.... then he flies to DC and is like “lol don’t need a mask I tested negative” which is EXACTLY THE MENTALITY THAT CAUSED THE INITIAL OUTBREAK THAT ALMOST CLOSED CAMPUS.

So yeah, he needed to apologize to the students/faculty on campus for being a hypocrite.
 

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Seemed fine. They e been on the kids about the Covid breakout so he needs to practice what he preaches.
 

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He caught a crazy amount of shit from students over this, because they have strict rules on a campus.... then he flies to DC and is like “lol don’t need a mask I tested negative” which is EXACTLY THE MENTALITY THAT CAUSED THE INITIAL OUTBREAK THAT ALMOST CLOSED CAMPUS.

So yeah, he needed to apologize to the students/faculty on campus for being a hypocrite.


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It seems to me that there are two types of hypocrisy, the way we use the terms:

1) the kind born of weakness or lack of self-knowledge where you know the standard is correct, but you struggle/fail to live up to it yourself. ("Or how can you say to your brother, `Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.")

2) The kind where you are indifferent to the standard, but you impose it on other people for the sake of your social standing. ("The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat; so practice and observe whatever they tell you, but not what they do; for they preach, but do not practice. They bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with their finger. hey do all their deeds to be seen by men; for they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, and they love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues, and salutations in the market places, and being called rabbi by men.")

Seems like people are interpreting it in the second category if they want him to resign. But it also just may have been a moment of weakness where he was going-along-to-get-along because that is what everyone was doing.
 
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Anyone on campus? Is this outcry over a mask or because Father attended a Trump White House based event?

It's all about the mask. The students are absolutely pissed that their leader didn't follow the same protocols that he is demanding of the students.
 

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1. deserves any and all criticism....i mean how f'ing stupid can you be to not be wearing one when you are demanding others do it...you had to know there would be pictures taken.

2. does he deserve to lose his job, i think that is too much of a stretch
 

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1. deserves any and all criticism....i mean how f'ing stupid can you be to not be wearing one when you are demanding others do it...you had to know there would be pictures taken.

2. does he deserve to lose his job, i think that is too much of a stretch

Maybe I am a little different. We are required to wear a mask in my office when leaving your work area. Failure to do so, can lead to reprimand all the way up to termination. If I saw our company president not wearing a mask out in public, I would not care either way. I do not see a direct correlation or relevance in the two situations. Another analogy is you follow the rules of the house you are in. I am guessing the White House did not require or probably want people in masks.
 

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Maybe I am a little different. We are required to wear a mask in my office when leaving your work area. Failure to do so, can lead to reprimand all the way up to termination. If I saw our company president not wearing a mask out in public, I would not care either way. I do not see a direct correlation or relevance in the two situations. Another analogy is you follow the rules of the house you are in. I am guessing the White House did not require or probably want people in masks.

You are also not a college student who is being denied their "real" college experience. I mean if you can't binge drink with 200 of your closest friends, are you really in college at all?
 

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Embarrassing. I've got my issues with Jenkins, but calling for his resignation over this is an absurd overreaction.

StuGo kids are the worst. Everyone involved with the drafting of that petition should have been bullied a lot more than they were growing up, which is why they feel perfectly justified inflicting this Hall Monitor bullshit on us now.

Resolved, that Whiskeyjack, Administrator of Irish Envy, calls for Rachel Ingal to be shoved repeatedly into a locker until she repents of her self-righteousness indignation.
 

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Makes me feel bad for the kids who were expelled for having a party

This is stupid. We have several of our friends who have kids in college. Once this began to happen on college campuses, the kids hunkered down and stopped going to be tested. One major university where our friend's son attends the kids think in the first week or two (bar hopping, fraternity parties, poker tournaments all happened during that time) they were at 100% positivity yet the school shows only several hundred cases. BTW...their football team played over the weekend and I did not see them having any positive tests so maybe it has run its course on their campus.
 

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You are also not a college student who is being denied their "real" college experience. I mean if you can't binge drink with 200 of your closest friends, are you really in college at all?

LOL! I went to college in the 80's so my classmates can teach these kids a thing or two.
 

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It's all about the mask. The students are absolutely pissed that their leader didn't follow the same protocols that he is demanding of the students.

This. He literally scolded them after the first outbreak about their "irresponsible" behavior... then went to glad hand with people in DC while violating all the protocols he's been asking them to follow. Insane lack of self-awareness by Jenkins.
 

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Embarrassing. I've got my issues with Jenkins, but calling for his resignation over this is an absurd overreaction.

StuGo kids are the worst. Everyone involved with the drafting of that petition should have been bullied a lot more than they were growing up, which is why they feel perfectly justified inflicting this Hall Monitor bullshit on us now.

Resolved, that Whiskeyjack, Administrator of Irish Envy, calls for Rachel Ingal to be shoved repeatedly into a locker until she repents of her self-righteousness indignation.

Whisky is Sensei Lawrence, confirmed.
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To be clear, I agree that this is a bad look for Jenkins, and he deserves to be dragged for it. I just hate the instinct to immediately call for a leader's job whenever someone's upset with them.
 

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To be clear, I agree that this is a bad look for Jenkins, and he deserves to be dragged for it. I just hate the instinct to immediately call for a leader's job whenever someone's upset with them.

I'd be curious what portion of the people signing the petition truly think he should resign over this and what portion simply are trying to make a point and just "want to be heard"
 

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I'd be curious what portion of the people signing the petition truly think he should resign over this and what portion simply are trying to make a point and just "want to be heard"

You're probably right. It's just a terrible rhetorical strategy.

"ND President John Jenkins, who hectors students for failing to adhere to COVID protocol and has already been photographed maskless and unobservant of social distancing rules, has again been caught violating his own protocol, but this time on national television..."

"Oof. What a hypocrite. Can't wait to read the blistering OpEd about this in the Observer."

"... and that's why we're calling on him to resign his position as President of the University."

"Wait, WTF? Who raised these kids to think that's a reasonable consequence here?"
 

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The cancel culture crap is disgusting. I really wish we have more public figures that would stand up to this stuff and speak out about it.
 

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Embarrassing. I've got my issues with Jenkins, but calling for his resignation over this is an absurd overreaction.

StuGo kids are the worst. Everyone involved with the drafting of that petition should have been bullied a lot more than they were growing up, which is why they feel perfectly justified inflicting this Hall Monitor bullshit on us now.

Resolved, that Whiskeyjack, Administrator of Irish Envy, calls for Rachel Ingal to be shoved repeatedly into a locker until she repents of her self-righteousness indignation.

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The current students want Jenkins to resign for not wearing a mask....


Monk Malloy ran Lou out of town, hired Bob Davie and Tyrone Golfingham and was never asked to resign. Individually, those are all far more egregious than "being a hypocrite and not wearing a mask!!"

Jesus H Christ what a bunch of pussies on campus.
 

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So much dumb all around on this. I'd consider firing Jenkins for a lot of other things, but not this. Sure, dunk on him, but this is silly.

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