Foreign Policy

[NDWarrior]

Tell me again why we support this God-awful country filled with people who have lost their minds and their souls (and why we send them $3.8 bill. per year)?

‘Discriminatory’ Israeli death penalty law would be war crime, says UN rights chief



And before you try and hone in on the fact - all other major issues with this law aside - that the death penalty is only being applied to "Palestinians convicted on terror charges for deadly attacks," please note that per Rights group B'Tselem, the conviction rate for Palestinians tried in Israeli military courts is approximately 96 percent. In many cases, these convictions are based on confessions obtained through pressure and torture during interrogations.

A 96% conviction rate is internationally considered a red flag for a system that is not genuinely adjudicating guilt and innocence and it suggests the outcome is largely predetermined.

The combination of this near-universal conviction rate, coerced confessions, restricted legal access, and now, with this law, no right to appeal with a mandatory 90-day execution window, means that any wrongful convictions - which, again, given a 96% conviction rate in a coercive system, are virtually certain to exist - could result in irreversible executions.

The bill calls for the Israel Prison Service to carry out executions by hanging within 90 days of sentencing, with no right to appeal.

As Claude AI states: "In short: no one can give you a precise number of wrongful Israeli convictions of Palistinians, but the structural conditions of the military court system - near-total conviction rates, torture-derived confessions, lack of legal representation - make wrongful convictions highly likely, and the new law would make those errors fatal and irreversible."

This is nothing but a legal vehicle and another means to accelerate Palestinian Genocide.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Tell me again why we support this God-awful country filled with people who have lost their minds and their souls (and why we send them $3.8 bill. per year)?

‘Discriminatory’ Israeli death penalty law would be war crime, says UN rights chief



And before you try and hone in on the fact - all other major issues with this law aside - that the death penalty is only being applied to "Palestinians convicted on terror charges for deadly attacks," please note that per Rights group B'Tselem, the conviction rate for Palestinians tried in Israeli military courts is approximately 96 percent. In many cases, these convictions are based on confessions obtained through pressure and torture during interrogations.

A 96% conviction rate is internationally considered a red flag for a system that is not genuinely adjudicating guilt and innocence and it suggests the outcome is largely predetermined.

The combination of this near-universal conviction rate, coerced confessions, restricted legal access, and now, with this law, no right to appeal with a mandatory 90-day execution window, means that any wrongful convictions - which, again, given a 96% conviction rate in a coercive system, are virtually certain to exist - could result in irreversible executions.

The bill calls for the Israel Prison Service to carry out executions by hanging within 90 days of sentencing, with no right to appeal.

As Claude AI states: "In short: no one can give you a precise number of wrongful Israeli convictions of Palistinians, but the structural conditions of the military court system - near-total conviction rates, torture-derived confessions, lack of legal representation - make wrongful convictions highly likely, and the new law would make those errors fatal and irreversible."

This is nothing but a legal vehicle and another means to accelerate Palestinian Genocide.

Too bad you weren't this morally outraged and offended when Palestinian terrorists attacked Israel on 10/7 and murdered more than 1000 civilians, taking 240 hostage, including several young children, raping several women during captivity, and even gang-raping then murdering dozens of women during the attacks then dragging their bodies through the streets and cheering about it. After that, most decent people don't GAF what Israel does to the Palestinians any longer. I put Palestinian terrorists in the same category as Nazi death camp guards and officials. They crossed a line. They deserve whatever they get. Fuck 'em.

 

[drayer54]

Good. Get the Ford home.

 

[calvegas04]

Good. Get the Ford home.

Also means we will be around for a while longer

 

[drayer54]

Also means we will be around for a while longer

Carrier deployments on a rotation are not indicative of us being around longer. The Ford needs to come home. Relief is on the way. We always have carriers deployed.

 

[drayer54]

 

[calvegas04]

 

[Fbolt]

Shelter in place!

Clearly tracking the missile with advance warning. Kitted up with video.

 

[drayer54]

Clearly tracking the missile with advance warning. Kitted up with video.

check your pants.

 

[NDWarrior]

Too bad you weren't this morally outraged and offended when Palestinian terrorists attacked Israel on 10/7 and murdered more than 1000 civilians, taking 240 hostage, including several young children, raping several women during captivity, and even gang-raping then murdering dozens of women during the attacks then dragging their bodies through the streets and cheering about it. After that, most decent people don't GAF what Israel does to the Palestinians any longer. I put Palestinian terrorists in the same category as Nazi death camp guards and officials. They crossed a line. They deserve whatever they get. Fuck 'em.

Oh fuck off with your what about, when about, and so on... You sound like a fucking broken record (like a bad Yoko Ono one where she repeatedly "sings" Number 9... Number 9... Number 9...).

Of course that was horrible -- Duh. By your asinine logic, we should have been genocide-ing ALL Muslims in the heavily populated areas they live in after 9-11 because "their people" killed thousands of Americans. (And I still am wondering exactly what part Israel and IDF played maybe letting it happen to support their grand plan. How the fuck do you pull something like that off in Israel, a country that's been leveraging strong intelligence and AI networks and technology?) But even if not, again, of course, it was a terrible thing - I mean what are you stupid?!

I'm starting to see that Israelis (at least the brainwashed Zionist ones) are similar to White Nationalist Christians, but much worse. They feel they are God's people, the chosen ones and can do and seize whatever the fuck they want and have no remorse or qualms about killing people and things at will: Animals, Palestinians, Medical workers, children, now Lebanese people in Southern Lebanon.

Like any mass murder, terrorist event, I denounce and am disgusted by the 10/7/2023 event like any human, feeling person would be.

But Israel and who they are, their grand ambitions, and their global manipulation and destruction are a grave danger to the United States and the world. It needs to stop. They are dragging us all into Armageddon and world destruction.

And again, this an indictment of Zionist Israel and its crazy leadership and a majority of its citizens who are brainwashed with this line of thinking, not the Jewish religion. It still amazes me that after such a horrific event for the Jewish people - The Holocaust - that they have become Nazi Germany, probably an even a more depraved society than that one.

 

[TorontoGold]

Oh fuck off with your what about, when about, and so on... You sound like a fucking broken record (like a bad Yoko Ono one where she repeatedly "sings" Number 9... Number 9... Number 9...).

Of course that was horrible -- Duh. By your asinine logic, we should have been genocide-ing ALL Muslims in the heavily populated areas they live in after 9-11 because "their people" killed thousands of Americans. (And I still am wondering exactly what part Israel and IDF played maybe letting it happen to support their grand plan. How the fuck do you pull something like that off in Israel, a country that's been leveraging strong intelligence and AI networks and technology?) But even if not, again, of course, it was a terrible thing - I mean what are you stupid?!

I'm starting to see that Israelis (at least the brainwashed Zionist ones) are similar to White Nationalist Christians, but much worse. They feel they are God's people, the chosen ones and can do and seize whatever the fuck they want and have no remorse or qualms about killing people and things at will: Animals, Palestinians, Medical workers, children, now Lebanese people in Southern Lebanon.

Like any mass murder, terrorist event, I denounce and am disgusted by the 10/7/2023 event like any human, feeling person would be.

But Israel and who they are, their grand ambitions, and their global manipulation and destruction are a grave danger to the United States and the world. It needs to stop. They are dragging us all into Armageddon and world destruction.

And again, this an indictment of Zionist Israel and its crazy leadership and a majority of its citizens who are brainwashed with this line of thinking, not the Jewish religion. It still amazes me that after such a horrific event for the Jewish people - The Holocaust - that they have become Nazi Germany, probably an even a more depraved society than that one.

You’d be surprised how some people collective punishment. Genociding non-white people isn’t on their radar.

Just to clarify, Israeli’s are not bad people - they should not be judged on their homicidal government. It’s a quick rabbit hole to antisemitism when people start blanket statements about Israelis. It’s same as people being fed clips in their algorithms showing some random insane Muslim guy and then people start assuming all Muslims want sharia law.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Oh fuck off with your what about, when about, and so on... You sound like a fucking broken record (like a bad Yoko Ono one where she repeatedly "sings" Number 9... Number 9... Number 9...).

Of course that was horrible -- Duh. By your asinine logic, we should have been genocide-ing ALL Muslims in the heavily populated areas they live in after 9-11 because "their people" killed thousands of Americans. (And I still am wondering exactly what part Israel and IDF played maybe letting it happen to support their grand plan. How the fuck do you pull something like that off in Israel, a country that's been leveraging strong intelligence and AI networks and technology?) But even if not, again, of course, it was a terrible thing - I mean what are you stupid?!

I'm starting to see that Israelis (at least the brainwashed Zionist ones) are similar to White Nationalist Christians, but much worse. They feel they are God's people, the chosen ones and can do and seize whatever the fuck they want and have no remorse or qualms about killing people and things at will: Animals, Palestinians, Medical workers, children, now Lebanese people in Southern Lebanon.

Like any mass murder, terrorist event, I denounce and am disgusted by the 10/7/2023 event like any human, feeling person would be.

But Israel and who they are, their grand ambitions, and their global manipulation and destruction are a grave danger to the United States and the world. It needs to stop. They are dragging us all into Armageddon and world destruction.

And again, this an indictment of Zionist Israel and its crazy leadership and a majority of its citizens who are brainwashed with this line of thinking, not the Jewish religion. It still amazes me that after such a horrific event for the Jewish people - The Holocaust - that they have become Nazi Germany, probably an even a more depraved society than that one.

Oh fuck off with your hypocrisy and always defending the wrong side of just about every issue. I'll repeat myself just to be clear: the atrocities of 10/7 were so far across the line, especially the killing and kidnapping of young children and the rape and murder of several young women then dragging their bodies through the streets to cheering, that the perpetrators and their supporters deserve whatever happens to them. Fuck 'em. And fuck you too for defending such POS. And don't give me that "Oh, I'm just defending due process" or "But the Israelis..." Bullshit.

When you intentionally target little kids and gang rape teenage girls and your people cheer it, you've lost all your humanity and all your rights to be treated humanely. Let me repeat - Fuck 'em. Anyone engaging in such acts of terrorism and depravity deserves whatever they get. They're as low as a Nazi death camp supervisor and I hope they get treated no better. Oh, and by the way, fuck 'em.

 

[NDWarrior]

Bishop, you're head is so far up your ass. How do I know that? Because you're not listening!

I'm not defending shit. 10/7/23 was WRONG and a savage terrorist act (again, DUH!)

All I'm saying is two wrongs don't make a right and I'm sorry but wiping out a people because of a deranged violent Hamas movement which does not represent the people of Palestine is evil, unnecessary and not of God. I'm sorry, Israel is smart enough to target who they need to target. They just used this as a reason to KILL every last Palestinian which is bullshit.
So I guess your math is let's have Israel kill 80K Palestinians or whatever the number is even though most of them are not the ones who killed the 1000 Israeli civilians.
There is something evil about Israel and again, I'm not indicting Jews but there does seem to be something bred into Israelis in terms of Zionism that Palestinians are animals and should all die and they are not thinking twice about it. Again, it's not every last Israeli, but it's a lot of them (maybe similar to % of US who are MAGA?). It's not because of their religion but more so a strong Zionist superiority that "we can do whatever we want and take whatever we want - We are chosen by God to do so."

I've just seen to many videos of children blown apart and settlers beating the shit out of Palestinians and I saw a reporter who said she was shocked when pretty much most of the Israelis she interviewed in Tel Aviv were of this chosen/destiny/grab what we want opinion, no hesitation.
And now Israel is using the war with Iran as reason to go into Southern Lebanon to do similar clearing of people and taking over the land.

I just don't see this war ending in any positive way because despite what Trump says out loud (which changes every day), IMO, Israel will not accept any terms and will continue to bomb and take land, and even shoot off a nuke if they feel that is required to save their asses or take everyone down w/ them. The Israeli leadership just ain't right. There is something twisted about them. Again, I'm not indicting Jews across the world... Specifically the current leadership of Israel and how they've managed to brainwash a large portion of its citizen.with your hypocrisy and always defending the wrong side of just about every issue.

...your hypocrisy and always defending the wrong side of just about every issue.

WTF made you God and the arbiter of being on the right or wrong side of an issue or a debate? We have differing opinions but I won't tell you you're on the wrong side of a debate and will listen and agree on points where I agree and on those where I disagree, e.g., 10/7 was a terrible terrorist act and Hamas should be punished and defeated in return for their actions. But that does not justify wiping out a whole people. I'm sorry it's wrong and I won't change my mind on that.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Bishop, you're head is so far up your ass. How do I know that? Because you're not listening!

I'm not defending shit. 10/7/23 was WRONG and a savage terrorist act (again, DUH!)

All I'm saying is two wrongs don't make a right and I'm sorry but wiping out a people because of a deranged violent Hamas movement which does not represent the people of Palestine is evil, unnecessary and not of God. I'm sorry, Israel is smart enough to target who they need to target. They just used this as a reason to KILL every last Palestinian which is bullshit.
So I guess your math is let's have Israel kill 80K Palestinians or whatever the number is even though most of them are not the ones who killed the 1000 Israeli civilians.
There is something evil about Israel and again, I'm not indicting Jews but there does seem to be something bred into Israelis in terms of Zionism that Palestinians are animals and should all die and they are not thinking twice about it. Again, it's not every last Israeli, but it's a lot of them (maybe similar to % of US who are MAGA?). It's not because of their religion but more so a strong Zionist superiority that "we can do whatever we want and take whatever we want - We are chosen by God to do so."

I've just seen to many videos of children blown apart and settlers beating the shit out of Palestinians and I saw a reporter who said she was shocked when pretty much most of the Israelis she interviewed in Tel Aviv were of this chosen/destiny/grab what we want opinion, no hesitation.
And now Israel is using the war with Iran as reason to go into Southern Lebanon to do similar clearing of people and taking over the land.

I just don't see this war ending in any positive way because despite what Trump says out loud (which changes every day), IMO, Israel will not accept any terms and will continue to bomb and take land, and even shoot off a nuke if they feel that is required to save their asses or take everyone down w/ them. The Israeli leadership just ain't right. There is something twisted about them. Again, I'm not indicting Jews across the world... Specifically the current leadership of Israel and how they've managed to brainwash a large portion of its citizen.with your hypocrisy and always defending the wrong side of just about every issue.



WTF made you God and the arbiter of being on the right or wrong side of an issue or a debate? We have differing opinions but I won't tell you you're on the wrong side of a debate and will listen and agree on points where I agree and on those where I disagree, e.g., 10/7 was a terrible terrorist act and Hamas should be punished and defeated in return for their actions. But that does not justify wiping out a whole people. I'm sorry it's wrong and I won't change my mind on that.

I didn't say anything about wiping out an entire people. I specifically said I was for killing any of them who have participated in terrorist attacks, support such attacks, or celebrate them. The rest are of no concern to me and I certainly would not advocate for indiscriminately wiping them out. The ones who commit terrorism and support it and cheer for it, though? Whatever happens to them is more than justified.

 

[Irish#1]

Also means we will be around for a while longer

Trump's supposed to speak tonight on the war conflict. I doubt he'll say much except that it's going well.

 

[drayer54]

Trump's supposed to speak tonight on the war conflict. I doubt he'll say much except that it's going well.

I'd expect him to highlight a withdrawal ahead, outline the objectives of the operation, which appear to have been met, discuss the failure of NATO to be a meaningful alliance, mention how we've blown up just about everything, declare a de facto regime change by killing most of the previous regime, and discuss how the world is a safer and better place having done this mission. Bonus points would be Cuba, Donroe Doctrine, or telling the world to buy oil from us because we have it. I'd be surprised if he mentions the Straits because that seems uncertain although UAE and Saudis appear poised to help break that problem.

 

[drayer54]

Secondary expsions are a great thing.


Seems like a good thing

 

[calvegas04]

Guy is a bum

 

[NDVirginia19]

Europe needs the strait open more than we do. Are they that impotent that they can’t contribute in any meaningful way? They won’t say so publicly because the Muslim immigrants in their country will burn down parliament, but they are thankful that we killed the Ayatollah and are working towards preventing their nuclear development.

 

[GATTACA!]

Europe needs the strait open more than we do. Are they that impotent that they can’t contribute in any meaningful way? They won’t say so publicly because the Muslim immigrants in their country will burn down parliament, but they are thankful that we killed the Ayatollah and are working towards preventing their nuclear development.

Peak delulu

 

[TorontoGold]

Europe needs the strait open more than we do. Are they that impotent that they can’t contribute in any meaningful way? They won’t say so publicly because the Muslim immigrants in their country will burn down parliament, but they are thankful that we killed the Ayatollah and are working towards preventing their nuclear development.

This a take so retarded that I expected Bishop to have written it.

Do the Muslims in your scenario burn down Parliament because they love Iran keeping control over the strait but they’re very happy about the Ayatollah being dead? What??? Lmao.

If your take is that “Muslims” will burn down parliament because they don’t want more foreign wars brought onto them by American aggression then that seems like a pretty rational argument. Of course, we have to reconcile with the fact that Muslims are subhuman sharia law fanatics according to IE. American governments routinely destabilize countries around the world and force large immigration crisis’s onto other nations, but then shit their pants because those nations aren’t jumping for joy for another foreign war.

Just jingoistic piss brain logic lmao. Every nation needs to bend to Daddy Trump’s will because 30% of the US is inbred.

 

[drayer54]

I’m not sure about burning down parliament, but holding our worthless NATO alliance to the fire is fine. Ukraine’s war is not our war and it is on our European allies doorstep. China needs the strait open. Europe needs it open. The US logistically doesn’t NEED it open as much as they do. European nations have a problem of their own doing with immigration, but remember our stronger allies are also Muslim nations in the Gulf. I do think we will continue to see a rightward swing in Europe and hopefully kick more of these weak leaders out of office.

 

[NDVirginia19]

This a take so retarded that I expected Bishop to have written it.

Do the Muslims in your scenario burn down Parliament because they love Iran keeping control over the strait but they’re very happy about the Ayatollah being dead? What??? Lmao.

If your take is that “Muslims” will burn down parliament because they don’t want more foreign wars brought onto them by American aggression then that seems like a pretty rational argument. Of course, we have to reconcile with the fact that Muslims are subhuman sharia law fanatics according to IE. American governments routinely destabilize countries around the world and force large immigration crisis’s onto other nations, but then shit their pants because those nations aren’t jumping for joy for another foreign war.

Just jingoistic piss brain logic lmao. Every nation needs to bend to Daddy Trump’s will because 30% of the US is inbred.

This is funny because the actual inbred people are the third worlders who have invaded Europe. Look at the stats, pretty horrific stuff.

And yeah, Europe likes to play poor little vassal when it comes to us providing the vast majority of their actual real defense capability, but then fucks us over by denying us overflight or basing for our missions ala France and Spain

These migrants hate Israel above all else, and don’t want their host nations to support anything that also supports Israel

 

[Irish#1]

This is funny because the actual inbred people are the third worlders who have invaded Europe. Look at the stats, pretty horrific stuff.

And yeah, Europe likes to play poor little vassal when it comes to us providing the vast majority of their actual real defense capability, but then fucks us over by denying us overflight or basing for our missions ala France and Spain

These migrants hate Israel above all else, and don’t want their host nations to support anything that also supports Israel

Dude, it's just a handful.

 

[drayer54]

This is funny because the actual inbred people are the third worlders who have invaded Europe. Look at the stats, pretty horrific stuff.

And yeah, Europe likes to play poor little vassal when it comes to us providing the vast majority of their actual real defense capability, but then fucks us over by denying us overflight or basing for our missions ala France and Spain

These migrants hate Israel above all else, and don’t want their host nations to support anything that also supports Israel

Virginia didn't make this up out of thin air. Europe is a mess in more ways than one.
Just this morning…

We aren't the only ones who think they are nuts


It's a topic last week in Europe-

 

[Irish#1]

 

[Irish#1]

Trump's supposed to speak tonight on the war conflict. I doubt he'll say much except that it's going well.

I was working on getting IE back up while he was talking so I wasn't focused on him. Unless I missed something, he really didn't say anything except things were going well. New Regime? I would have liked to hear some particulars on who they are and their place in Iran prior to the attack.

 

[Irish#1]

Bill to ban sale of key AI chipmaking equipment to China introduced in House

The MATCH Act would tighten existing restrictions on a critical choke point for the AI industry, banning exports of certain manufacturing tools across China.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[LifelongFan]

You’d be surprised how some people collective punishment. Genociding non-white people isn’t on their radar.

Just to clarify, Israeli’s are not bad people - they should not be judged on their homicidal government. It’s a quick rabbit hole to antisemitism when people start blanket statements about Israelis. It’s same as people being fed clips in their algorithms showing some random insane Muslim guy and then people start assuming all Muslims want sharia law.

Israelis overwhelmingly support their government. They are not innocent and have elected these people. A vast majority of Israelis are pro-genocide.

 

[LifelongFan]

This is funny because the actual inbred people are the third worlders who have invaded Europe. Look at the stats, pretty horrific stuff.

And yeah, Europe likes to play poor little vassal when it comes to us providing the vast majority of their actual real defense capability, but then fucks us over by denying us overflight or basing for our missions ala France and Spain

These migrants hate Israel above all else, and don’t want their host nations to support anything that also supports Israel

You are genuinely retarded. You don't get Shia vs Sunni bullshit, how oil is priced, or much of anything.